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04:41 < sgiath> fenn: new vaccine is scarier (at least for me) because "you have to take it" (not everywhere and not literally but we are getting there)
04:42 < sgiath> If governments will push brain-computer interfaces with same urgency as the vaccine right now I will be sceptical even more...
04:43 < sgiath> Even though I will be first in line to purchase such device
04:44 < fenn> it's getting pretty much impossible to live without executing arbitrary code downloaded from random sites on the internet
04:45  * fenn looks over at the enormous collection of root certs that come shipped with everything
04:45 < fenn> why yes turkish ministry of information technology, come right in
04:47 < fenn> i wonder how many humans would need to be corrupted in order to pull a large scale vaccine switcheroo
04:48 < fenn> like is there even anybody making sure that what comes out of the factory is what goes into peoples' arms
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04:50 < fenn> and if you ask, of course YOU're the one with the problem
04:54 < sgiath> Of course it is an tradeoff... like everything. That is exactly why nobody should "have" to take it but they should decide that tradeoff for themselfs
04:54 < sgiath> I am more willing to trust someone comming to me with take it or leave it approach than aggressive "take it or else"
04:56 < sgiath> But you have to trust huge amount of people either way, that is without question
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05:03 < sgiath> And to your point about amount of people needed to pull a large scale vaccine switcheroo is IMO surprisingly small
05:07 < sgiath> Just few individuals need to know what's going on. Other people in the chain are filled with people choosed for their loyalty not good heart or expertise. Otherwise there wouldn't be just one Edward Snowden but tens of thousands
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07:59 < kanzure> another emerald/transcriptic cloud lab thing https://www.culturebiosciences.com/
09:19 < kanzure> https://inference-review.com/article/primate-memory
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