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04:19 < fltrz> kanzure: what was the response time for previous correspondence of jscott / jefferson @ archive.org? days, weeks, months?
06:05 < lsneff> Huh, the CSO of E11.bio emailed me
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07:38 < kanzure> fltrz: don't recall.
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09:16 < fltrz> what is the best way to move from one continent to another without triggering a dead man's switch? since transportation is obviously not an option, one would have to move to the new continent, set up a second dead man's switch, then move back to the first, disable the first, then move back to the new continent. But this presents a previously unseen problem: upon arriving on the new continent for the 
09:16 < fltrz> first time, do I have a guarantee that I will be able to travel back and travel forward again within the new switch time frame?
09:17 < kanzure> you can temporarily change your timeouts
09:18 < kanzure> something something two-phase atomic commit
09:19 < fltrz> no matter what timeout I select at time X, I can not predict guaranteed both way travel rules/restrictions
09:19 < fltrz> something something pretty vague
09:29 < L29Ah> fltrz: you can add a remote disable feature
09:34 < fltrz> I always considered remote communication to the device a compromise risk
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10:09 < lsneff> A dead man’s switch to what??
10:10 < fltrz> its not relevant, the problem statement is on moving continents
10:11 < L29Ah> release covid-22, transfer bitcoins to frens, nuke the local police department
10:15 < fltrz> L29Ah: yours has all those things? especially the latter is rather non-credible
10:17 < L29Ah> nah it's all fantasy, any links to real world events are coincidental // indeed nuke is the hardest to pull off these days
10:18 < fltrz> also, way to much damage, whats the point?
10:19 < fltrz> anyway, was hoping for a helpful answer to the problem statement
10:19 < L29Ah> to blackmail state actors into submission
10:19 < L29Ah> i find remote disable helpful when it's well-isolated and encrypted
10:20 < fltrz> remote <-> well-isolated?
10:23 < L29Ah> i mean isolating physical factors from the information channel as much as possible (EMI protection, location obfuscation, reserve power supply, etc)
10:25 < fltrz> when you say remote in remote disable across an ocean, you mean over the internet right?
10:27 < fenn> remote disable would seem to defat the purpose of a dead man's switch
10:28 < fltrz> fenn: the context was not foreseeing potential need to move continent
10:29 < fenn> have value for active time remaining until it self powers off
10:29 < fltrz> fenn: what if you don't succeed in setting up the second dead man's switch on the new continent?
10:30 < fenn> then you dont have a working system anymore
10:30 < fltrz> right
10:30 < fltrz> so self power off is not an option
10:30 < fenn> how are you delaying it? remotely or you have to be physically present?
10:32 < fltrz> thats getting to close to the details
10:32 < fenn> well you just goofed and admitted you actually have one
10:33 < fltrz> have one what?
10:33 < fenn> "Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*!"
10:36 < fltrz> a dead man's switch is not necessarily a doomsday machine? not every dead man's switch is intended for blackmail, although it may still gain that ability upon agressors finding out
10:36 < kanzure> gentlemen, you can't fight here, this is the war room
10:37 < fltrz> kanzure: understood
10:37 < kanzure> your homework assignment is to memorize dr. strangelove so you can recognize the silly movie lines in the future
10:51 < lsneff> love that movie
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