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05:10 < faceface> babadupe
05:24 < darsie> .
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06:18 < lsneff> Starting to worry there’s going to be another recession like 2008 soon.
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07:17 < jrayhawk> oh, whoops
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07:34 < jrayhawk> nmz787_: re: ADHD and hoarding: probably a form of external identitiy/existence validation to help compensate for underconfident inductive priors, similar to and comorbid with e.g. stereotypes of borderline and unnatural hair colors
07:35 < jrayhawk> ( https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=adhd+borderline+correlation )
07:37 < jrayhawk> also i feel targeted https://www.omgwallhack.org/home/jrayhawk/img/hovel/20160926_009.jpg
07:42 < L29Ah> did your system ate a SPARC?
07:43 < lsneff> .t https://www.cana.com/
07:43 < saxo> Cana | homepage
07:44 < lsneff> > Cana One is the world’s first molecular beverage printer. Any beverage. Any time. Zero trash.
07:44 < lsneff> Looking forward to people reverser engineering this
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08:47 < nmz787_> jrayhawk: I'll put those keywords on my list of things to study... unfortunately they're in 1082nd position of priority
08:50 < jrayhawk> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=dopamine+certainty+bayesian is probably more important
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09:00 < nmz787_> .wik kopimism
09:00 < saxo> "The Missionary Church of Kopimism (in Swedish Missionerande Kopimistsamfundet), is a congregation of file sharers who believe that copying information is a sacred virtue and was founded by Isak Gerson, a 19-year-old philosophy student, and Gustav Nipe in Uppsala, Sweden in [...]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopimism
09:00 < nmz787_> "On April 28, 2012, the Missionary Church of Kopimism held their first wedding.[21] The wedding took place in Belgrade, Serbia, between a Romanian woman and an Italian man. The holy ceremony was conducted by a Kopimistic Op, wearing a Guy Fawkes mask, while a computer read vows and some of Kopimism's central beliefs aloud"
09:01 < nmz787_> The church declared: "We are very happy today. Love is all about sharing. A married couple shares everything with each other. Hopefully, they will copy and remix some DNA-cells and create a new human being. That is the spirit of Kopimism. Feel the love and share that information. Copy all of its holiness."
09:01 < nmz787_> No belief in gods or supernatural phenomena apart from Kopimi itself is mentioned on their web site. CTRL+C and CTRL+V, the common computer shortcut keys for "Copy" and "Paste," are considered sacred symbols. 
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09:10 < lsneff> I’ve never understood why people form churches around technology. There’s kopimism and a couple of life extension ones
09:10 < L29Ah> kopimism was conceived to combat copyright with religious freedom laws afair
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09:40 < darsie> Churches may have financial benefits.
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12:35 < fenn> re: ADHD and hoarding, it's because you have all these projects you want to do and never actually get around to finishing them
12:43 < L29Ah> or maybe ADHD is a major resource allocation glitch
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14:20 < jrayhawk> there is that, too
14:36 < xaete[m]> the cana stuff is probably just a bunch of foil bags and pumps
14:37  * L29Ah imagines syringe pumps made of 20ml medical syringes and 3D printed gears for steppers
14:42 < xaete[m]> thats prob a good idea for sth like a solid phase synthesis machine tbh, ive thought abt it before
14:42 < xaete[m]> biggest issue would be aligning the syringes properly
14:44 < xaete[m]> ive had ideas of this that use a belt-like device (similar-ish to how belt feeds work for machine guns maybe?) but honestly you might be able to just use a stepper motor
14:47 < L29Ah> i'm pretty sure there are decent syringe pump designs on thingiverse these days
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15:11 < muurkha> Merkle is probably busily working to revolutionize some field nobody suspects
15:13 < muurkha> 14:18 < lsneff> Starting to worry there’s going to be another recession like 2008 soon.
15:13 < muurkha> we're likely entering a worse crisis than 02008
15:15 < muurkha> 17:10 < lsneff> I’ve never understood why people form churches around technology. There’s kopimism and a couple of life extension ones
15:15 < muurkha> religious freedom laws as L29Ah said
15:15 < muurkha> xaete[m]: what do you mean by "solid phase synthesis machine"?
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15:39 < lsneff> I hope not, I’d like to be able to not struggle to find jobs when I graduate
15:40 < lsneff> Yeah, by RE, I meant more what chemicals it uses. The actual mechanical operation likely isn’t too complicated
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16:09 < xaete[m]> muurkha: something like a peptide synthesizer or dna synthesizer. generally has steps that involve adding liquid to a column then rinsing stuff out
16:10 < muurkha> oh, so the things you're synthesizing are stuck to the walls, and you're adding one monomer at a time to them?
16:10 < kanzure> this is a common oligonucleotide synthesis technique
16:11 < muurkha> like atomic layer deposition
16:11 < kanzure> just chemistry
16:11 < kanzure> https://diyhpl.us/wiki/dna/synthesis/notes/
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16:23 < xaete[m]> ye initial thought was for dna synthesis in a cost-effective-ish device, but in theory you can (ab)use it to allow for other solid-phase synthesis reactions
16:42 < kanzure> xaete[m]: how did you find us?
16:45 < xaete[m]> i googled "dna synthesis" and found your website basically. dont remember exactly why i wanted it tho
16:45 < xaete[m]> (prob some biochemical transformation or sth)
16:45 < kanzure> cool
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19:34 < fenn> xaete[m]: we were looking for a knowledgeable chemistry enthusiast to advise on various DNA synthesis details, like how to attach the first base to the substrate in such a way that it's easy to remove later on, and so on
19:35 < fenn> i don't remember what the actual problems were now
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20:10 < xaete[m]> fenn: sounds interestin, ive looked into that a bit, and tbh all the reagents seemed fine to me (except 1h-tetrazole. but id just use dicyanoimidazole or sth)
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