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08:35 < superkuh> https://www.nature.com/articles/s42255-022-00545-5 "Body temperature is a more important modulator of lifespan than metabolic rate in two small mammals"
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11:27 < kanzure> machine learning for chemical warfare https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30698097
11:28 < kanzure> "Quite an interesting paper in it's impact study, but the questions it asks all boil down to "the masses are not to be trusted with our vaunted knowledge, because harm can be done. How can we prevent them from moving outside the boundaries of knowledge we like" and then the example used is how GPT-3 is managed. This is without a doubt a terrific example of bad technological stewardship: Any ...
11:28 < kanzure> ...malicious state actor gets to use what you make for evil, while at the same time keeping it away from the folks you're making it for. I wish they had had a more substantial and innovative thing to say about it, but as it stands it reads as regressive."
11:59 < xaete[m]> honestly not like it matters lol, this is a real pile of waffle
11:59 < xaete[m]> if a state wants a bunch of CW agents they'll jsut make more sarin or vx
11:59 < xaete[m]> and there already exist "simpler" nerve agents like iptbo that dont get used cuz CW sucks in near-peer conflict and terrorists are braindead
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14:48 < kanzure> fpga oscilloscope thing https://www.ebay.com/itm/114051630870?hash=item1a8e01c716:g:TuMAAOSwfzJeEkrS
15:22 < jrayhawk> GPT-3 is already sufficient to destroy Reddit in the wrong hands.
15:23 < jrayhawk> it's possible destroying twitter would be enough of a public service to make it all worthwhile, though.
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16:01 < xaete[m]> if gpt-3 is already sufficient to destroy reddit, reddit is probably already dead b/c corporations are using it
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17:11 < nsh> search engine relevance rot is more of a concern than any particular forum 
17:11 < nsh> we probably need to to figure out ways to divest ourselves from google/bing/et.al (not that this wasn't already the case, but it's become precipitous of late)
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21:09 < fenn> unfortunately "common crawl" is totally BS and not what it says on the tin
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21:28 < mrdata> crawl what?
21:28 < mrdata> not crawfish?
21:29 < mrdata> pollock seems to go in sim crab
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21:50 < fenn> the idea was supposed to be to pool data and make it available for people who want to make alternative search engines, data mining, scraping, whatever. so instead of everybody crawling every website, which scales poorly and requires large amounts of resources, we keep track of who has crawled what, and upload the data to a repository
21:50 < fenn> it could be distributed too but that's more complex
21:51 < fenn> and if you pre-process it to strip out all the junk and compress out all the redundancy, it's a lot less data to download
21:51 < fenn> but instead, well, i don't even know. but it's not that
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22:29 < justanotheruser> are there any distributed search engines that are even close to good?
22:39 < fenn> the only distributed search engines i know of are for torrents only
22:39 < fenn> that's a much smaller number of things to search, and also way less data per item (metadata only)
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