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00:36  * nsh is occasionally persistently mollifying to make up for being far less occasionally persistently aggravating :)
00:36 < nsh> which i've noticed is tied a lot to my [difficulties and experiments with fixing
00:36 < nsh> ] dopamine regulation
00:37 < nsh> was on an absolute rager a couple of days ago. very asuralike 
00:37 < nsh> (asure =~ titan)
00:37 < nsh> ~= even
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10:23 < nmz787> jrayhawk: github employees have trashed git?
10:27 < jrayhawk> they broke shared repository hosting under a traditional posix model
10:28 < nmz787> what do they prefer? running individual git servers in docker containers or something goofy?
10:30 < jrayhawk> well, they prefer everyone uses github, but alternatively they encourage the use of gitolite for access control
10:31 < jrayhawk> not explicitly, of course, they prefer to surprise you by documenting a POSIX approach that will lead to privilege escalation vulnerabilities
10:31 < jrayhawk> man git-init, /shared
10:32 < nmz787> is there an old version that works?
10:33 < nmz787> or is that riddled with other vulnerabilites?
10:34 < jrayhawk> it's riddled with other vulnerabilities
10:36 < jrayhawk> well, gitolite or git-shell for access control, but git-shell has been a security shitshow
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11:20 < docl> in case anyone missed it, github is owned by microsoft now
11:21 < docl> since 2018
12:04 < kanzure> https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/gpt-3.txt
12:10 < muurkha> docl: this was in 02017
12:12 < rndhouse_> "they decide to use their knowledge of the simulation to help the people in the real world"
12:12 < rndhouse_> that's pretty cool
12:15 < muurkha> what I'm taking away from this is that GPT-3 knows that Kyon is a member of the SOS Brigade
12:15 < muurkha> oh and that Haruhi is female and a high school student
12:16 < muurkha> (and can generate coherent plot summaries, but we already knew that)
12:30 < maaku> .title https://nanome.ai
12:30 < saxo> Nanome
12:31 < maaku> ugh. The Future of Molecular Design
12:31 < maaku> Global real-time collaboration using Virtual Reality from general chemistry to pharmaceutical drug discovery.
12:31 < maaku> Play Video 
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16:11 < Jay_Dugger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I2Dmg-H1Gk
16:11 < Jay_Dugger> Emerald Cloud Lab demonstration for Wolfram Research.
16:17 < lsneff> Looks like a unity game engine sample from 2013
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16:46 < maaku> lsneff: nanome.ai?
16:46 < maaku> it's from the UC Davis 3d graphics visualization group
16:47 < maaku> I actually used an early version of that software at NASA about a decade ago
16:47 < maaku> it's... a bit hokey. and unless things have changed, it's written more for computer graphics people than molecular chemists
16:48 < maaku> I mean it's useful. The big win we had was teaching grad students at georgia tech how the ribosome works by literally getting inside it ina CAVE VR environment
16:49 < maaku> when we talked atomCAD a year or two ago I mentioned the utility of having a VR interface for visualizing molecular structure. that's from my experience using this software
16:50 < maaku> but the UX I remember was pretty useless for doing real design work. very clunky
16:50 < fenn> how much of this could be done with a ToF depth camera and a 3D monitor
16:50 < fenn> there used to be those haptic deltabots
16:50 < maaku> fenn: that's exactly what we did back in 2010
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16:52 < fenn> most people don't realize that wacom tablets are 3D input devices
16:53 < maaku> we taped a Kinect depth camera to the top of a 3D-capable big screen projection TV, put two more TVs on either side, and used nvidia g-sync to sync the displays
16:53 < fenn> yeah see i don't think full immersion is necessary to understand the structure of a molecule
16:53 < fenn> you can tinker with it on your desk top (literally)
16:53 < maaku> got basically the same experience as a $500k CAVE environment with $10k of consumer parts at the time. undoubtably cheaper now
16:53 < maaku> https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~okreylos/ResDev/Kinect/MainPage.html
16:54 < kanzure> if someone could gift me a 3d printed ribosome that would be greatly appreciated
16:54 < fenn> yeah i have messed around with kinect a bit
16:55 < maaku> fenn: maybe so. in any case gatech reported that it took them one afternoon to get a new graduate student up to speed, whereas it used to take the better part of a semester
16:55 < maaku> but maybe they were buttering us up for those sweet sweet government contract dollars
16:56 < kanzure> one does not simply understand a ribosome in a single afternoon
16:56 < kanzure> btw one of my favorite molecular techniques https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribosome_display
16:57 < maaku> kanzure: these were biochem grad students. they know how the ribosome works. they were studying how it has evolved over time and so had to compare and contrast a bunch of different ribosomes from different lineages
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17:00 < kanzure> ah okay
17:01 < maaku> .title https://rh.gatech.edu/news/474151/looking-back-38-billion-years-root-tree-life
17:01 < saxo> Sorry, title took too long
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