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04:39 < lsneff> fenn: I have an alarm, but I usually wake up 30-5 minutes before it goes off
04:46 < adlai> .wik muurkha
04:46 < saxo> Article not found: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muurkha gave 404 | Searched en for 'muurkha' | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_result_found gave 404 | Searched en for 'No result found'
04:46 < adlai> muurkha: you might repeat your "my IRC nick literally is 'muurkha'" less frequently if folks had any idea wtf that word meant in your language.
04:49 < adlai> the logs on 2022-04-28 are strange; there is a jump cut of conversation topic.
04:54 < lsneff> It means ‘fool’
04:54 < adlai> .wik jump cut
04:54 < saxo> "A jump cut is a cut in film editing in which a single continuous sequential shot of a subject is broken into two parts, with a piece of footage being removed in order to render the effect of jumping forward in time." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jump_cut
04:54 < adlai> well, that actually is the exact opposite of what I expected.
04:55 < adlai> what I meant by "jump cut of conversation topic" is more similar to what happens when the ape throws the femur skywards, in _2001: A Space Odyssey_
04:55 < adlai> lsneff: from which language?
04:56  * adlai wonders whether there's any shortcut for wiktionary?
04:56 < adlai> .help
04:56 < lsneff> Hindi
04:57 < adlai> huh, saxo's /whois doesn't even list who operates the bot.
04:57 < adlai> back in the good old days...
04:57 < adlai> thank you, lsneff !
05:03 < adlai> why do y'all dismiss Android so hastily?
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07:20 < kanzure> "Challenges of proving a causal role of somatic mutations in the aging process" https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acel.13613
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14:02 < muurkha> adlai: sbp operates the bot
14:03 < muurkha> my problem with Android is that it's operated for the benefit of Google
14:03 < muurkha> so you can expect things to break when that's convenient for Google
15:06 < kanzure> https://github.com/lucidrains/DALLE2-pytorch
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15:33 < adlai> that's a terrifically pessimistic reason to ditch a platform.
15:35  * adlai does not see any current reason to continue this line of conversation, anyway.
15:37 < muurkha> it's not speculative, it's a constant headache when you're using Android
15:41 < maaku> adlai: I never use any google product for anything ever, for precisely that reason
15:41 < maaku> my time is too valuable to be dealing with headaches over deprecated APIs or product features
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15:43 < muurkha> Google services: only free if your time is worthless
15:48 < juri_> tired of being the product? prepare to become part of all of the solutions you rely on.
15:55 < juri_> Yes, even that one.
15:56 < maaku> I use ubuntu. Is it the best distro? No it sucks seven ways since Sunday. But it fucking works and I only have to upgrade it once every five or seven years.
15:56 < maaku> I'm officially old.
15:56 < juri_> maaku: debian, and... yeah. i use an old autoinstall system that i have to go fix every few years.
15:58 < maaku> juri_: ironically debian is too stable for me. I find I have to pull in various ubuntu repos to upgrade certain things, and it end up being easier/more reliable to do this from an ubuntu LTS release
15:59 < maaku> using the software stack everyone else uses helps out tremendously in cutting down sysadmin time
15:59 < maaku> docker tends to make this all a moot point though
16:02 < juri_> docker has seriously changed things. k8s even further. i haven't moved to k8s for things in my home, yet.
16:13 < muurkha> yeah, docker makes it easier to use new software without destabilizing, like, Wi-Fi and power management and disk encryption
16:36 < rndhouse> Have you guys tried Qubes OS? VM templates makes it easy to manage installed software.
16:40 < juri_> one of my coworkers uses it, i haven't had the need. the software i need installed is minimalistic. the internet is the computer, after all. everything interesting is REST apis, and remote.
16:48 < rndhouse> It can also add a bit of more isolation between private keys and the internet.
16:48 < rndhouse> * bit more
17:06 < jrayhawk> i liked james bottomley's concept of horizontal attack surface https://blog.hansenpartnership.com/measuring-the-horizontal-attack-profile-of-nabla-containers/
17:23 < fenn> .w muurkha
17:23 < saxo> Couldn't get any definitions for muurkha
17:23 < fenn> huh i thought that would work
17:35 < rndhouse> jrayhawk: Looks interesting. Thanks for pointing it out.
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