--- Log opened Thu May 12 00:00:21 2022 00:55 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:40 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@user/malvolio] has quit [Quit: in your mind, them secrets be safe, in your mind] 01:43 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@user/malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:45 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@user/malvolio] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:46 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@user/malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:48 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@user/malvolio] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:17 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@user/malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:17 -!- Molly_Lucy [~Molly_Luc@user/Molly-Lucy/x-8688804] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:24 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:39 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:46 -!- Molly_Lucy is now known as Krazubu__ 02:46 -!- Krazubu__ is now known as Molly_Lucy 03:15 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@user/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:44 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0::93] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:04 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@user/malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:24 -!- xaete [~user12345@2607:9880:1a40:73:9b7a:6d7f:d8ba:a1bd] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:32 < kanzure> https://github.com/aws/aws-fpga 04:59 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:29 -!- Guest31 [~Guest31@178.219.114.85] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:33 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0::93] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:55 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0::93] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:58 -!- Guest31 [~Guest31@178.219.114.85] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:17 -!- johest [~johest@user/johest] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:23 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-78-102-216-202.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:25 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-78-102-216-202.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:26 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-78-102-216-202.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:00 -!- xaete [~user12345@2607:9880:1a40:73:9b7a:6d7f:d8ba:a1bd] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:08 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@135-23-182-185.cpe.pppoe.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:09 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@135-23-182-185.cpe.pppoe.ca] has quit [Changing host] 10:09 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@user/mrdata] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:11 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@user/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:12 -!- mrdata_ is now known as mrdata 10:14 -!- xaete [~user12345@wn-campus-nat-129-97-124-1.dynamic.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:16 -!- Moon [~Moon@167.102.183.144] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:20 < fenn> food prices going up, just like jaydugger predicted http://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/30/world/europe/cooking-oil-shortage-ukraine.html 11:24 -!- xaete [~user12345@wn-campus-nat-129-97-124-1.dynamic.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:40 < kanzure> https://www.deepmind.com/publications/a-generalist-agent 11:40 -!- Moon [~Moon@167.102.183.144] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:41 < lsneff> I think everyone predicted that food prices would continue to rise 11:47 < kanzure> "Proof-carrying data from accumulation schemes" https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/499 11:47 < kanzure> "Halo Infinite: Recursive zk-SNARKs from any additive polynomial commitment scheme" https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/1536 11:47 < kanzure> "Proof-carrying data with succinct arguments" https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/1618 11:51 < kanzure> er, without succinct arguments 12:16 -!- Molly_Lucy [~Molly_Luc@user/Molly-Lucy/x-8688804] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 12:28 -!- xaete [~user12345@2607:9880:1a40:73:9e0:e3d9:d355:ca07] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:00 < L29Ah> https://www.daniclodedesign.com/thethirdthumb 14:22 < kanzure> interesting combo: https://github.com/alufers/mitmproxy2swagger + https://github.com/ioxiocom/openapi-to-fastapi + https://github.com/koxudaxi/fastapi-code-generator 14:26 -!- mlaga97 [~quassel@user/mlaga97] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:35 < kanzure> why did it turn out that the hippocampus was so easy to simulate? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3395724/ 14:46 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-78-102-216-202.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:51 < kanzure> "Optogenetic rejuvenation of mitochondrial membrane potential extends C. elegans lifespan" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.11.491574v1 15:19 < docl> .tw https://twitter.com/longevion/status/1524841585627779082 15:20 < saxo> Now @aubreydegrey and @CharlesMBrenner agree a lot more than usual 👀 https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1LyxBoyzQnpKN (@longevion) 15:20 < docl> follow up convo to this: https://rss.com/podcasts/letstalklongevity/ 15:21 < kanzure> https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/nvidia-hackers-allegedly-attempting-to-blackmail-company-into-open-sourcing-gpu-drivers 15:22 < kanzure> https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/ 15:31 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/briankrebs/status/1506754458008670209 15:31 < saxo> Experts say the LAPSUS$ data extortion group that hit Okta and Microsoft this week is run by a 17-year-old from the UK who recently bought the Doxbin doxing website, and then leaked its database. Naturally, Doxbin responded by doxing the LAPSUS$ leader. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/03/a-closer-look-at-the-lapsus-data-extortion-group/ (@briankrebs) 15:35 < kanzure> https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/03/a-closer-look-at-the-lapsus-data-extortion-group/ 16:08 < kanzure> orion's arm discord server https://discord.gg/gcBKANv 16:18 < kanzure> "Molecular electronics sensors on a scalable semiconductor chip: A platform for single-molecule measurement of binding kinetics and enzyme activity" https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.2112812119 16:20 < kanzure> that's a cool review. 16:26 < kanzure> "Figure 4. DNA Polymerase Activity Sensor. A phi29 DNA polymerase is conjugated to the sensor bridge using the SpyTag-SpyCatcher conjugation scheme The 25-second-long signal trace shows an isolated burst of sensor activity that occurs after adding a primed 40-mer template (sequence 5'-25T 15G-3') and corresponding (dCTP and dATP) nucleotides. The expectation is the polymerase would acquire a ... 16:26 < kanzure> ...template and incorporate 15 C's followed by 25 A's. A series of ~40 discrete major pulses are seen, representing putative incorporation events. The signal trace has ~15 wide-spaced, narrower pulses on the left (green region), and ~25 closely spaced, broader pulses on the right (red region), suggesting these are the C and A events, respectively, and that therefore the C and A incorporations ... 16:26 < kanzure> ...events can be distinguished by examining pulse features." 16:36 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:36 < kanzure> need an excuse to try https://github.com/pyscript/pyscript 16:49 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/CharlesMBrenner/status/1524889256698687489 16:49 < saxo> @kanzure @Nature @Cell_Onion Bryan's dystopian mouse colony.... (@CharlesMBrenner, in reply to tw:1524888117240553473) 16:50 < kanzure> bah 16:51 < docl> biomolecular factory on a chip is an awesome idea, I'm becoming increasingly convinced 16:52 < docl> picturing an implant that can synthesize precise doses of any drug, hormone, etc 16:54 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:54 < docl> downloadable vaccines for the latest virus. wouldn't want to leave this connected to the internet often though 16:54 < kanzure> i am thinking immobilized ribosome between nanoelectrodes in a gap junction, use various forcs to manipulate operation of 30 nm (or larger) ribosomal units 16:55 < kanzure> for nanomanufacturing purposes 16:55 < kanzure> DNA synthesis is important and useful but we can also get pretty far if we just have programmable real-time control over ribosome 16:55 < docl> very true 16:55 < mlaga97> docl gives a whole new purpose to those antivirus popups 16:55 < docl> yeah... 16:56 < kanzure> docl: are you familiar with the george church proposal for recoding mammalian genome with new codons so that natural viruses are incapable of hijacking cell machinery 16:56 < docl> no, hadn't seen it 16:56 < kanzure> it's on our wiki somewhere 17:00 < docl> precision biomolecular dosing with an implanted chip factory would be capable of a lot of things ranging from birth control to mind control. security would be even more paramount than usual 17:01 < docl> er chip based factory, not factory of chips 17:01 < kanzure> docl: https://gnusha.org/logs/2016-09-17.log near the facebook link 17:01 < kanzure> wait, wrong reference 17:01 < kanzure> you want in vivo drug manufacturing and downloadable drugs, not organoid simulation chip factory 17:02 < docl> right 17:02 < kanzure> well i think the logs go on to discuss in vivo drug synthesis 17:03 < docl> I can't be the first to think of something like that... fits neatly with your electronic polymerase ideas, although in principle everything could be done stepwise 17:03 < kanzure> downloadable anti-virus more practical with on-chip oligonucleotide synthesis than enzymatic dna synthesis :( 17:14 < lsneff> Before in vivo, if you can set up a programmable ribosome to synthesize drugs in general, that’d change the world 17:14 < docl> true 17:16 < docl> kanzure: you mention downloadable antivius later in the same chat, good points imo 17:25 < docl> can memory chips be used to guide reactions? maybe with very small amounts of fluid involved, you could guide molecular collections through a series of reactions with the surface voltage changes? 17:41 < lsneff> Electrode arrays aren’t hard to make with semiconductor manufacturing tech 17:55 < kanzure> docl: sounds like OWED stuff. 17:56 < kanzure> SCOEW, rather 17:56 < kanzure> ttps://gnusha.org/logs/2021-02-11.log 18:01 < docl> ah yeah, electrowetting or maybe optoelectrowetting 18:01 < docl> .wik Electrowetting 18:01 < saxo> "Electrowetting is the modification of the wetting properties of a surface (which is typically hydrophobic) with an applied electric field. / The electrowetting of mercury and other liquids on variably charged surfaces was probably first explained by Gabriel Lippmann in 1875 [...]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrowetting 18:05 < docl> it links to e-paper. maybe an e-paper display is usable as a lab if you switch out the ink 18:06 < docl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_paper#Electrowetting 18:09 < docl> hmm. if you can shock a ribosome into doing whatever you want with nanoelectrodes you might not really need stepwise mfg 18:23 < muurkha> lsneff: depends on what you mean by "electrode arrays" 18:55 < docl> .t https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20448870/ 18:55 < saxo> Single-sided continuous optoelectrowetting (SCOEW) for droplet manipulation with light patterns - PubMed 18:55 < docl> "The unique lateral field-driven optoelectrowetting mechanism also enables extremely low light intensity actuation, and droplet manipulation can be achieved by directly positioning the SCOEW chip on a LCD screen used in a laptop or portable cellular phone. " 18:59 < kanzure> i am going to be hosting a workshop on open-source silicon chip design for hardware wallets and trusted computing, here's some information about attending https://www.blockchaincommons.com/salons/silicon-salon/ 18:59 < kanzure> (let me know privately if any of you would need or like one of the freebie invites) 19:07 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0::93] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:18 -!- abetusk [~abe@2603-7080-a344-c600-ab1b-a8d3-a331-2ffa.res6.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:22 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:36 < lsneff> kanzure: do you have any literature on that ribosome idea? 20:12 < docl> SCOEW paper http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/microfluidics/Single-sided%20continuous%20optoelectrowetting%20(SCOEW)%20for%20droplet%20manipulation%20with%20light%20patterns%20-%20LCD%20-%202010.pdf 22:17 -!- nickfarrow [~nickfarro@59-102-12-199.tpgi.com.au] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:18 -!- nickfarrow [~nickfarro@59-102-12-199.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:28 -!- xaete [~user12345@2607:9880:1a40:73:9e0:e3d9:d355:ca07] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:33 < nsh> .t https://physicsworld.com/a/quantum-error-correction-makes-its-zero-magnetic-field-debut/ 23:33 < saxo> Quantum error correction makes its zero-magnetic field debut – Physics World --- Log closed Fri May 13 00:00:21 2022