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02:43 < jrayhawk> https://www.anti-agingfirewalls.com/2023/04/04/healthy-active-and-productive-till-100-laying-out-the-adult-aging-process-a-breakthrough-and-my-personal-story/ vince giuliano doing a more accessible summary of findings than usual
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04:36 < nsh> DWIM() with GPT4: https://yoke.ch0wn.org/~nsh/AIperl.html
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08:55 < hprmbridge> nmz787> https://www.pcgamer.com/samsungs-chip-boffins-couldnt-help-but-tell-chatgpt-their-secrets/
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10:00 < L29Ah> > 40htz vagal system stimulation
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11:14 < shminux> greetings, trannies
11:16 < hprmbridge> skymoo> Hello
11:26 < hprmbridge> kanzure> hello skymoo
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11:42 < L29Ah> how many trannies do you see?
11:49 < shminux> transhumanists
12:13 < juri_> as a transgendered transhumanist, i have one thing to say about this: BOO!
12:33 < shminux> tran-tran!
12:33 < shminux> T^2
12:40 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Doesn't being a trans trans make something a cis?
12:41 < meliorist> there's a subreddit for that - r/transtrans
12:41 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Assuming they're not orthogonal transitions
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14:22  * nsh smiles
14:23 < gwillen> o/
14:23 < gwillen> I apparently dropped this channel when I switched from irssi to weechat, or possibly in the freenode to libera switch, and failed to ever rejoin.
14:24 < kanzure> welcome back
14:24 < kanzure> you have a large backlog to read https://gnusha.org/logs/
14:24 < gwillen> hahaha, yes
14:25 < nsh> serving suggestion: a twist of lime and 34B parameter language muddle
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14:30 < pasky> nsh: that's really nice! (except using perl in this age of human civilization)
14:31 < pasky> nsh: to move the goalposts further, I wonder if this worked if (a) the prompter would simulate just pure non-technical user rather than programmer, just giving feedback about what they observe not working
14:32 < pasky> nsh: (b) the prompter would be another GPT4 hooked to perl interpreter that'd be asked to model the user given a high level required outcome
14:33 < kanzure> nsh: i am hoping lazyweb will work on a GPT-4 summarization of the hplusroadmap logs for me so that i don't have to do that
14:33 < kanzure> or a semantic search indexing of it, so that i don't have to remember log dates any more
14:34 < kanzure> "show me all the wacky ideas for how to assemble a dyson swarm"
14:34 < kanzure> there are a lot of weird things in the logs
14:47 < nsh> what was that story jcowan was telling us in the other castle there about the four cell comic where the teacher's teaching the kids, the teacher with a video player's teaching the kids, then the video player's teaching the kids, then the video's teaching some tape recorders...
14:48 < nsh> as Asmiov explored in the Foundation series
14:49 < nsh> losing the ability to understand a thing from the highest level of abstraction to the foundational praxis of the engineering and the history that enabled it
14:49 < nsh> is a fate to be averted
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17:23 < fenn> you don't need full-on GPT-4 just for a vector search engine
17:23 < kanzure> agree
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18:26 < pasky> Muaddib: ...or do you!
18:26 < Muaddib> pasky: Ah yes, because who needs intuition and knowledge when you can just summon the omnipotent GPT-4 to do our bidding?
18:27 < pasky> yes. and i suspect that it'll still be easier with gpt4
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18:28 < fenn> Muaddib: enjoy the next subjective year reading backlogs
18:28 < Muaddib> fenn: A subjective year? That implies there's an objective year. Care to enlighten us, Time Lord?
18:28 < fenn> pasky: he's funnier :)
18:30 < fenn> Muaddib: where does "a video player teaching some tape recorders" come into Asimov's Foundation series?
18:30 < Muaddib> fenn: It doesn't. But I could see Hari Seldon predicting that you'd ask about it in his next psychohistory forecast.
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18:32 < jrayhawk> i have most of the stuff i have said since 1998 logged. i wonder if i could obsolete myself right now.
18:40 < kanzure> well, have you ever had an original thought and do you expect more of them?
18:42 < fenn> i did once in high school
18:42 < fenn> it was nothing special
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20:19 < superkuh> Perl will always be in style for current year if you're working with text.
20:20 < gwillen> the classic "tape player playing to tape recorders in a classroom" joke was from the movie "Ferris Bueller's Day Off".
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