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12:37 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Guess I'm not using twitter anymore  now nitter is dead
12:38 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> If I wasn't supposed to build to torment nexus why is it so easy?
13:38 < fenn> for purposes of plot progression
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15:13 < superkuh> nitter dead, and mastodon is as bad as twitter with no nastodon. :(
15:54 < hprmbridge> kanzure> the ephemerality was damaging anyway
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17:33 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/finding-a-25-percent-better-partner
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21:07 < hprmbridge> kanzure> here is rob carlson trying to revive DNA synthesis for DNA data storage https://spectrum.ieee.org/dna-data-storage
21:46 < fenn> mastodon is all the angst and none of the insight
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22:01 < hprmbridge> Eli> I imagine a lot of serious discussion by economists about this post. How do you calculate the NPV of a new spouse? Are there “liquidity preferences “?
22:15 < hprmbridge> Eli> TBH, I'm pretty sure most people do a subconcious NPV calculation when they decide to date a person. Why do men choose young women and women choose rich men? It's a selfish gene NPV calc.
22:17 < hprmbridge> Eli> Now that I think about it, it's pretty much the same reason people cheat on their spouse
22:19 < hprmbridge> Eli> Although I'm not sure what the discount rate is? Maybe the cost of an average genetic outcome?"
22:19 < hprmbridge> Eli> It would be the equivalent of a woman going for the boring accountant over the rock star"
22:29 < hprmbridge> Eli> But I think it's pretty obvious that we already do these calculations if we invert the question. Would you stay with your current partner if they became 90% worse via their own decisions? I'm pretty sure the answer is no.
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23:36 < fenn> would you love me if i became a worm through my own decisions
23:38 < fenn> so due to some scare-tactics by EWG i just read a bunch of papers on chloromequat, a chemical used in europe to reduce the stalk length of grains like wheat and oats
23:39 < fenn> chloromequat probably reduces semen quality by 50-70% at half the acceptable upper limit
23:39 < fenn> it's hard to translate from mouse doses to humans
23:40 < fenn> since this is a water soluble chemical, it should be very easy to do this experiment on humans, since they're eating it anyway
23:43 < jrayhawk> the evolutionary nash equilibria is for everyone to punish anyone who makes the exchange of value in gender relations explicit because the exchange loses the majority of its value when plausible deniability is lost
23:43 < jrayhawk> the system is working as intended
23:52 < fenn> huh. "Additionally, natural formation of chlormequat from choline precursors in wheat products and egg powder has been shown to occur under high temperatures such as those used during food processing and production, resulting in chlormequat concentrations between 5 and 40 ng/g"
23:53 < fenn> this is actually around the levels they are seeing in food
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