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01:48 < hprmbridge> robertmcdougal_73197>  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1228627857400664155/image.png?ex=662cbbdc&is=661a46dc&hm=4770394ba4b3ee226edf58a29a9b39a5bf7d34996ce1781a3b24939aa148a270&
01:48 < hprmbridge> robertmcdougal_73197> Went to to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation in downtown Seattle with these flyers.
01:48 < hprmbridge> robertmcdougal_73197>
01:48 < hprmbridge> robertmcdougal_73197> Waited for an employee to walk out, I went up to her with the flyer, and after a minute a security guard ran up between us and I explained to him for 5 min how I need my large intestine back and he’s low IQ. First he told me to go to the grocery store and hand out my flyers and I’m like are you retarded? I need billions spent on infrastructure to build these datasets. I need the Gates foundation
01:48 < hprmbridge> robertmcdougal_73197> to invest. And he said to email the Foundation online.
01:48 < hprmbridge> robertmcdougal_73197>
01:48 < hprmbridge> robertmcdougal_73197> She was a bitch tbh didn’t even listen for 2 sec. Kept on saying she doesn't want a flyer. This is only going to escalate. Like no actually I’m not tolerating being ignored full stop by society. I NEED MY DAMN COLON BACK!!!!! I emailed the Foundation. My email will probably be buried because they get so many emails. I will return.
01:48 < hprmbridge> robertmcdougal_73197> Imagine working for a Foundation that’s slogan is:
01:48 < hprmbridge> robertmcdougal_73197>
01:48 < hprmbridge> robertmcdougal_73197> “EVERY PERSON DESERVES THE CHANCE TO LIVE A HEALTHY PRODUCTIVE LIFE”
01:48 < hprmbridge> robertmcdougal_73197>
01:48 < hprmbridge> robertmcdougal_73197> And then refusing to listen to the path to solving organ regeneration affecting hundreds of millions and could affect anyone.
03:07 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Hey does anyone know of a way to test for sodium levels especially low sodium that can be done without the need for sending them off for centralised testing? I know at-home testing was a silicon valley trend for a while, high sodium seems fairly easy with urine testing but i'm not sure if that works for low sodium
04:01 < juri_> The idea of having to "earn a living" implies that by default, you don't actually deserve to be alive.
04:06 < TMA> juri_: that is a correct inference
04:12 < hprmbridge> kanzure> many false statements and inaccuracies here, kinda weird https://bitcoin-takeover.com/bryan-bishop-on-bips-webcash-biohacking/
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06:28 < L29Ah> alonzoc: ask ##chemistry
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07:25 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://aiascendant.substack.com/p/extropias-children-chapter-1-the-wunderkind
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13:23 < stipa> kanzure: for some reason such ppl think they should save humanity
13:24 < stipa> talking about it and actually realising it is a different thing
13:27 < stipa> mostly all of them end up designing a weapons of mass destruction 
13:27 < stipa> at some point they stop to care and start t ohate
13:27 < stipa> to survive 
13:28 < stipa> a wasted potential
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15:48 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://unchained.com/bitcoin-astronomy/the-law-of-hash-horizons
15:49 < hprmbridge> Lev> Fwiw there's many trivial mitigations to the mining problem they mention and it's called "nakamoto consensus kinda sucks just a bit"
15:49 < hprmbridge> Lev> GHOST in eth is exactly for this reason
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15:58 < hprmbridge> Lev> There's even some interesting consensus constructions that are designed to be relativistic, and even a couple ways of instantiating secure key agreement and oblivious transfer via relativity
15:58 < hprmbridge> Lev> In theory you could base an entire PKI system on that, but yikes
17:24 < hprmbridge> kanzure> stake is not interesting to me.
17:24 < hprmbridge> Lev> ghost is not proof of stake
17:24 < hprmbridge> Lev> it is completely independent of PoS/PoW your DoS resistance mechanism
17:25 < hprmbridge> Lev> consensus algs as a whole are a separate thing
17:25 < hprmbridge> kanzure> block times don't need to be small, you can actually use very large block times
17:26 < hprmbridge> Lev> Yes but on this scale where light delay would make 10 minutes 'small' algs like ghost would trivially mitigate the issue they discuss
17:27 < hprmbridge> kanzure> have you read braidpool
17:27 < hprmbridge> Lev> I mean you'd still need a block time greater than the light delay, but you could viably do the light delay + 10 seconds or whatever if you want
17:27 < hprmbridge> Lev> I have not, I assume similar to p2pool for monero?
17:28 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> GHOST is mostly just a variant of fork choice that uses the subtree with the most work over the chain of most work. It's got some slightly better bounds iirc but most of the time if orphans are negligible and your chain isn't under attack GHOST agrees with the nakamoto fork choice rule
17:28 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/tabconf/2022/braidpool/
17:32 < hprmbridge> Lev> interesting
17:32 < hprmbridge> Lev> fwiw bitcoin uses a very low network degree and it really doesn't have to
17:32 < hprmbridge> Lev> since the propagation time stuff is mentioned there
17:33 < hprmbridge> Lev> like there's cool constructions that try to automatically turn your network into a moore groph but honestly high-degree kademlia works just as well
17:38 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Y'all seen the nitroplast thing making the rounds? Apparently an organelle that can fix nitrogen
17:42 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Looks like UCYN-A cyanobacteria behaves as a true organelle in some organisms
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22:58 < fenn> .t https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-35619-1
22:58 < saxo> Large-scale perfused tissues via synthetic 3D soft microfluidics | Nature Communications
22:59 < fenn> .wik harrison ruffin tyler
22:59 < saxo> " / In computer network communications, the HTTP 404, 404 not found, 404, 404 error, page not found, or file not found error message is a hypertext transfer protocol (HTTP) standard response code,  to indicate that the browser was able to communicate with a given server, but [...]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_result_found
23:00 < fenn> living grandson of the tenth american president (john tyler, not thomas jefferson apparently)
23:00 < fenn> .wik Harrison Ruffin Tyler
23:00 < saxo> "Harrison Ruffin Tyler (born November 9, 1928) is an American chemical engineer, businessman, and preservationist. He cofounded ChemTreat, Inc., a water treatment company, in 1968, and restored the Sherwood Forest Plantation." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Ruffin_Tyler
23:00 < fenn> saxo: i am disappointed
23:03 < fenn> https://fennetic.net/irc/barrows-technological-scale-2024-04-13-143306_002.png 
23:05 < fenn> https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/CHOAM Combine Honnete Ober Advancer Mercantiles was much more than House Atreides, much more than Dune, much more than the Priesthood or melange. It was inkvines, whale fur, shigawire, Ixian artifacts and entertainers, trade in people and places, the Hajj, those products which came from the borderline legality of Tleilaxu technology; it was addictive drugs and medical
23:05 < fenn> techniques; it was transportation (the Guild) and all of the supercomplex commerce of an empire which encompassed thousands of known planets plus some which fed secretly at the fringes, permitted there for services rendered.
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