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07:35 < hprmbridge> jay_dugger> Hello, everyone.
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10:05 < geneh2> protein structure prediction from google https://golgi.sandbox.google.com/about
10:05 < geneh2> probably pretty locked down
10:07 < hprmbridge> Lev> https://alphafold.ebi.ac.uk/
10:09 < geneh2> are there any ML based protein design tools that have open model weights?
10:10 < hprmbridge> Lev> afaik no, the best you could hope to find is open ACRNs probably and I'm willing to bet even those are locked down pretty hard
10:11 < hprmbridge> Lev> I mean OpenFold exists but I'm not aware if they're making training software or a model itself
10:11 < hprmbridge> Lev> I lied
10:11 < hprmbridge> Lev> https://github.com/google-deepmind/alphafold apparently model weights are available
12:08 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.futurehouse.org/wikicrow
12:09 < hprmbridge> kanzure> chemistry LLM https://www.nature.com/articles/s42256-024-00832-8
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16:26 < L29Ah> .t https://www.thedailybeast.com/robert-bouton-mcdougal-tells-how-his-large-intestine-was-allegedly-stolen-by-jared-frattini
16:26 < saxo> Robert Bouton McDougal Tells How His Large Intestine Was Allegedly Stolen by Jared Frattini
16:55 < hprmbridge> kanzure> yeah that's expected, after he was out canvasing the gates foundation asking to speak with billy
16:59 < hprmbridge> kanzure> he was briefly in this channel https://robertmcdougal.substack.com/
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17:12 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://web.archive.org/web/20220525084745/https://robertmcdougal.substack.com/p/dear-smart-people-and-society-please
17:15 < hprmbridge> kanzure> can't find this one https://robertmcdougal.substack.com/p/how-my-large-intestine-was-stolen
17:21 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68500815/united-states-v-mcdougal/
17:38 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24652543-mcdougal-stalking
18:10 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Didn't see this one coming *at all*
18:19 < fenn> why is FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force wasting their time on bullshit like this
18:20 < fenn> narcissist, meet psychiatrist
18:20 < fenn> they will never seek therapy on their own, but it doesn't have to turn into a federal investigation
18:25 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> I'm properly reading it now. Yikes. That's some seriously obsessive hatred. He really should've been sectioned before it got like this.
18:25 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> I severely doubt he's an actual threat to anyone but himself beyond sending threats.
18:27 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Does the USA have a system where concerned friends or family can call the police to get someone involuntarily committed?
18:28 < fenn> yes
18:28 < fenn> this would absolutely qualify
18:37 < hprmbridge> bootstrap3141> Guy seems very entitled and like a total basket case
18:39 < hprmbridge> bootstrap3141> Guy should have a restraining order at minimum..
18:40 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> yeah he's had his intestine removed. However now he doesn't have UC anymore, no more 5-ASA or stress related flare ups etc. it's not ideal however you've can now function better and adapt. Change your diet, take some supplements, and do exercises to gain control of your new internal plumbing.
18:40 < hprmbridge> alonzoc>
18:40 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> don't publicly rant about planning murder. Get your shit together and maybe sue if the doctor actually did something wrong
18:40 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Mans entitled AF he would've likely died if it continued
18:41 < hprmbridge> bootstrap3141> Exactly! Accepting the situation and making the best of it is the first step towards any peace or whatever this guy is trying to accomplish.  Frankly it seems like what he really wants is a time machine.
18:43 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Yeah, what he really wants is an intestine without the disease in the first place which I can sympathise with. However the point at which a doctor is going to go "Well we should probably remove the whole thing" is quite far along atleast if the US doesn't deviate far from the UKs surgical approach. The first line of defense surgically speaking is to remove damaged sections of the intestine not the
18:43 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> whole thing
18:45 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> And there's a *whole* hierarchy of drugs to go through before that's an option. The doctor either did just do the surgery for no reason or he's a patient nothing else would've worked for
18:46 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Literally a treatment pyramid https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1237943707005882511/image0.png?ex=663d7c6b&is=663c2aeb&hm=d9e06aafa10a5577411ca4cf63a06f4f4544b13fe33e1a6298a9583b000d6e7e&
18:48 < fenn> well the court document says he never met the doctor before the surgery, so that's a hell of a snap judgement to make
18:49 < fenn> robert's story was that he was trying to get some letter to be excused from work that day and instead ended up in surgery
18:49 < hprmbridge> Lev> ...
18:49 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Really? Wow the US health system is efficient
18:50 < hprmbridge> bootstrap3141> It can be in emergencies.
18:50 < hprmbridge> bootstrap3141> I can see how that would be jarring
18:51 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Yeah, but emergency treatment of UC should be corticosteroids or immunosuppression. Not direct surgery
18:51 < hprmbridge> Lev> he would still need to provide (probably written) consent at the time tho, no?
18:51 < hprmbridge> Lev> like jarring i get
18:51 < hprmbridge> Lev> but its not like the chloroform in the HVAC system got him before he noticed
18:51 < hprmbridge> bootstrap3141> It does seem strange. I wonder what was said to him to make this go through.
18:52 < fenn> the doctor said "you're gonna die if we don't do this immediately" according to robert, then afterward changed the reasons for the surgery with bogus paperwork
18:52 < hprmbridge> Lev> hmm
18:53 < fenn> but like, what's the appropriate way to direct your rage, making youtube videos that consist of screaming "I hate you!!!" for ten minutes, or pursuing a legal case. clearly robert has the ability to conduct scholarly research of the type required for laying the foundation of a malpractice case
18:54 < hprmbridge> bootstrap3141> I don’t see any reason not to believe the guy.  It sounds like malpractice if he’s telling the truth; it’s not like there haven’t been tons of criminally negligent surgeons in US (probably the world).
18:54 < fenn> you can always murder-suicide someone later if the malpractice suit and millions of dollars doesn't satisfy you
18:54 < hprmbridge> bootstrap3141> I’d be suspicion anyone telling me that as a 20 something year old..
18:56 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Yeah malpractice is a real possibility and probably provable easily given that "I went in to get a sick note about a flare and left without my intestine" is not shall we say the standard treatment process for UC
18:58 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> There's so many steps between "I have a flare" and "Let's remove your intestine" even in an emergency situation. If you were suffering from severe malnutrition due to malabsorption they'd give you immunosuppressant or steroids, along with painkillers probably, and pump nutrients into you without need for digestion.
18:59 < fenn> the doc said the intestine was perforated, according to robert
18:59 < fenn> unfortunately the relevant substack posts are now gone, but you can read what he wrote here in the logs
19:00 < fenn> i never read this substack post where he threatened to kill someone though
19:01 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Hmm, yeah that could track. But you're not walking in for a sick note with a perforated intestine that's ambulance ride territory.
19:01 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> I suffer from UC myself and normal flares can hurt bad on their own. but the potentially deadly complications aren't gonna be "can I have a sick note"
19:03 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> fenn: Which substack was that I read some of his posts ages ago when I went "He's crazy prolly best not to engage" but didn't see death threats
19:09 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> But yeah regardless he had *issues* before his intestine got stolen https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5499935/Student-facing-felony-charges-carving-swastikas-sues-college.html
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