--- Log opened Sat May 18 00:00:58 2024 00:04 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:11 -!- millefy0 [~Millefeui@91-160-78-132.subs.proxad.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:13 -!- millefy [~Millefeui@91-160-78-132.subs.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:13 -!- millefy0 is now known as millefy 02:33 < fenn> sutskever and leike both left openai. i'm not sure how i feel about this. https://jnnnthnn.com/leike.png 03:11 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 03:11 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:58 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:02 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:08 -!- nefercheprure is now known as TMA 05:36 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:37 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:43 < hprmbridge> harmoniq.punk> Feel the AGI plebs ! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1241370686744825856/Screenshot_2024-05-18_at_07.36.18.png?ex=6649f40b&is=6648a28b&hm=4e013a471c8490828f44e8c855870c67905dd8aad56e63e4cf9d5af520cc58ba& 05:44 < hprmbridge> Lev> in soviet russia, AGI feels you 05:53 < hprmbridge> harmoniq.punk> He is right, the ignorance for the massive structural parallelism is so disappointing. Imagine thinking the photon-electron coupling is still considered an esoteric concept after 75 years of Feynman diagrams. 05:53 < hprmbridge> harmoniq.punk> https://x.com/SterlingCooley/status/1791196197186830731 05:53 < hprmbridge> harmoniq.punk> https://x.com/SterlingCooley/status/1791225592072876524 06:35 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:46 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:48 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:25 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:44 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://medium.com/@nic__carter/five-perspectives-on-stablecoins-5bc20076270a 07:51 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Still waiting on a decent free floating stable coin, we've got systems like MakerDAOs DAI which allows for decentralised stable coins that can weather storms but we all still hold tight to USD price oracles 07:53 < superkuh> Aren't "stable" coins just fiat crypto? 07:55 < L29Ah> superkuh: what's "fiat crypto"? most stablecoins are traditional bank accounts, but on blockchain 07:57 < superkuh> crypto where they try to create value by tying it to a fiat currency. 07:57 < superkuh> Or is that just a subset of "stable" coins? 07:58 < L29Ah> depends on the nature of "tying" 07:59 < hprmbridge> Lev> Plenty use various cryptocurrencies as collateral instead of USD directly 07:59 < hprmbridge> Lev> they just still tend to target usd values 08:05 < hprmbridge> harmoniq.punk> The whole point of "crypto" is the absence of gov control and censorship. Of course they will attack it like they attacked gold in 1933 with Executive Order 6102. During the Great Depression, to control gold circulation and stabilize the financial system, President Roosevelt signed this order requiring most Americans to surrender their gold holdings exceeding $100 in value. This was controversial, 08:05 < hprmbridge> harmoniq.punk> and some challenged it in court, but it remained in effect until 1974. The Nazis confiscated gold and other valuables from citizens, particularly Jews, to fund their war effort. This was a clear case of theft to enrich the government. Will happen again with "crypto". 08:06 < superkuh> The 2024 change making it illegal to transfer cryptocurrency some would consider worth more than $10k USD to others without reporting it is pretty nasty. 08:06 < superkuh> re: USA. 08:11 < L29Ah> what are the sanctions? 08:22 < hprmbridge> harmoniq.punk> This regulation is in place also for fiat. There are financial and civil sanctions up to 100k and financial exclusion or even criminal prosecution for money laundry or terrorism finance. 08:23 < hprmbridge> pinkbearer> always happens prior to wars as well. also remember what they did in Katrina with guns. 08:29 < hprmbridge> harmoniq.punk> Actually individual sanction would is the optimist scenario. The main concern for me is hunting developers who build software that can be used to launder money or finance gov. A knife can be both used for feed people or to kill people. The regulation of "Virtual Assets" and "AI" will be the most dangerous decel regulation in modern history. I don't think we appreciate how toxic and depressive will 08:29 < hprmbridge> harmoniq.punk> be. 08:29 < hprmbridge> Lev> I mean Pertsev got found guilty what, 2 days ago? 08:30 < hprmbridge> Lev> 08:32 < hprmbridge> Lev> I can't do time 08:32 < hprmbridge> Lev> lol 08:38 < hprmbridge> harmoniq.punk> Look, I followed the story and I personally think these guys are not innocent as we think. But they should get them with traditional criminal investigation not starting a war with developers. I don't care anymore if these guys are innocent or, western society became fully dictatorial, and this is going to hurt society badly. They have started wars people realy don't want them. A WW3 is only 08:38 < hprmbridge> harmoniq.punk> possible if they destryo internet, otherwise civil wars will fire everywhere. 09:06 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:07 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:44 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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