--- Log opened Tue May 21 00:00:01 2024 02:12 -!- gl00ten3 [~gl00ten@194.117.18.100] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:24 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:25 -!- gl00ten3 [~gl00ten@194.117.18.100] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:38 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@194.117.18.100] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:47 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@194.117.18.100] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:56 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@194.117.18.100] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:22 < kanzure> hmph 06:58 < kanzure> https://acoup.blog/2022/08/26/collections-why-no-roman-industrial-revolution/ 08:41 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@194.117.18.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:24 < hprmbridge> pinkbearer> With intelligence, to perform a task you must first conceptualize it, even if it's as simple as pushing a button. Your robot is not doing any thinking, it is therefore "dumb" and your argument falls flat. I won't hear any nonsense about "usability" when the conversation is accuracy. 09:25 < hprmbridge> pinkbearer> Arpin's definition supersedes yours in order, it describes what is actually going on mentally while yours only describes what is seen from the outside 09:27 < hprmbridge> pinkbearer> You ironically undermine your own argument with the robot example, since your definition could fit a robot which never thinks, thus failing miserably the task of defining intelligence 09:28 < hprmbridge> pinkbearer> Unless you're going for a very, very specific definition of "agent" - that single word is doing way too much heavy lifting in your definition lol 09:55 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@194.117.40.120] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:24 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@194.117.40.120] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:24 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@194.117.40.120] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:04 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:05 -!- balrog [znc@user/balrog] has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:10 -!- balrog [znc@user/balrog] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:12 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.freepatentsonline.com/WO2024102228A1.html 11:18 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.24.3.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:47 -!- stipa [~stipa@user/stipa] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:13 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@194.117.40.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:29 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.24.3.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:59 -!- stipa [~stipa@user/stipa] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:33 -!- test_ is now known as _flood 15:54 < fenn> congrats, you are now part of the problem :D 15:54 < hprmbridge> kanzure> last one before this didn't count? 15:59 < fenn> it says published may 16 2024 15:59 < fenn> you have some other patent? i must have forgotten 16:00 < fenn> oh there's a bunch 16:09 < hprmbridge> kanzure> only one other 16:09 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://patents.google.com/patent/US11339423B2/en 16:09 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 16:10 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:18 < fenn> there's a custodia bank one too 16:34 -!- flyback [~flyback@2601:540:8203:8a20:68e7:cd8f:2f53:5af6] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:46 -!- flyback [~flyback@2601:540:8203:8a20:54aa:fbcf:516e:265f] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:11 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:52 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@2001:8a0:7ef6:8700:19b7:5269:6d30:a6bf] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:54 -!- o-90 [~o-90@gateway/tor-sasl/o-90] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:55 -!- gl00ten2 [~gl00ten@bl11-102-149.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:57 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@2001:8a0:7ef6:8700:19b7:5269:6d30:a6bf] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:02 -!- o-90 [~o-90@gateway/tor-sasl/o-90] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:16 -!- mxz__ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:17 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:17 -!- mxz__ is now known as mxz 20:18 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:23 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:02 < hprmbridge> Eli> @kanzure how much does it cost to get a patent. I’m assuming lawyer fees are the biggest part? 21:24 -!- gl00ten2 [~gl00ten@bl11-102-149.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:05 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:24 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:36 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:42 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap --- Log closed Wed May 22 00:00:02 2024