--- Log opened Sun May 26 00:00:06 2024 00:09 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@bl11-102-149.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:11 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@bl11-102-149.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:05 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:36 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 05:53 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "In vitro reconstitution of epigenetic reprogramming in the human germ line" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07526-6 07:59 < fenn> laron syndrome, an IGF-1 receptor knockout, prevents diabetes and cancer? (and causes dwarfism) https://web.archive.org/web/20110217045114/https://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/17/science/17longevity.html 08:00 < fenn> er, and they also make less IGF-1 08:00 < fenn> sorry, growth hormone receptor mutation (not sure if it's functional) 08:08 < NewtonTrendy> fenn: i think birds spot the rhythm in human speech and sort of repeat quotes within the vocal ability they have, the reason this is significant is because they notice what we say and try to interpret it, I cant work out if they know there is more depth to what we say or if they just hear it as though we were trying to tweet. they repeat certain things we say to (some) people (who whistle at 08:08 < NewtonTrendy> them and try to understand for example) sometimes questioningly or as though they are trying to tell us things 08:16 < fenn> yes they repeat sounds but it's more like the bird is showing off that it can do that 08:23 < NewtonTrendy> I think they communicate as a wider community recognising the patterns in humans. What makes you think they are showing off, rather than questioning? If they are showing off are they trying to initiate conversation? What is your assumption that them showing off based on? Isn't that quite significant too? I think we need to be careful not to attribute learned human behaviours to them when 08:23 < NewtonTrendy> interpreting them, just states such as happiness or sadness or curiocity. Like trying not to fall out with the birds based on things that took us decades to learn in school, but that we often judge humans by. 08:25 < NewtonTrendy> I wast clear (surprise surprise) i meant communicate as a wider community using the patterns from humans and interpreting understanding in them from the repeated sounds. For example they repeat the common rhythm/intonation of what we say and they either say it with an emotion recognisable to a bird or accompanied by a related term. 08:26 < NewtonTrendy> I'm really trying to get into this concept of reading whats not expressed in language from a single phrase and the vocalisation of it. 08:45 < fenn> birds have mating calls (as do humans) and some species use imitation of sounds as a courtship ritual. often when these birds form a pair bond they'll use an imitated sound as their lovey dovey signal, which is unique to the pair bond 08:46 < fenn> humans with pet birds can get confused because the bird is repeating words that the human (with whom the bird has formed a pair bond with) has said to the bird, often phrases like "hello" or "i love you" 08:47 < fenn> although the meaning is the same, the bird only "knows" the meaning of the words through its immediate context 08:48 < fenn> a wild bird that forms a pair bond could use a chainsaw sound, or some unpronounceable gloomping clicking sound 08:49 < fenn> city birds often pick up cellphone ring tones 08:58 < NewtonTrendy> I wonder how many differing learned consciousnesses there are? 08:58 < NewtonTrendy> https://x.com/AndrewYNg/status/1788648531873628607 08:58 < NewtonTrendy> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65401783 09:20 -!- test_ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:24 -!- _flood [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:58 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:37 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:14 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "Crows “count” the number of self-generated vocalizations" https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adl0984 12:24 < hprmbridge> Eli> Ok, so the background context is that this is my youtube hero image with the title "Read books, get cultured. Best biology books part 1". https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1244370544015577240/dmbh_best_books_12.png?ex=6654dde0&is=66538c60&hm=7f63fb496b2329b90e84b777c7d178acedc24ac297c3adf4692fb64589cea327& 12:28 < hprmbridge> Eli> This video is just to perfect my video workflow and learn about YouTube. Later videos, I will start talking about actual biohacking. This is my beta for the first video. You can post comments anonymously (by filling out a false name and email), or non-anonymously. Good friends criticise your ideas. Bad friends praise mediocrity. https://f.io/M4xtHbob 12:58 < fenn> @Eli okay i left some comments, mostly about timing. hopefully they were actually recorded and are helpful 13:00 < hprmbridge> Eli> Apparently huberman and dave asprey are talking about minicircle now? https://daveasprey.com/genetherapy/ 13:01 < fenn> @Eli can you actually see my comments? should have a thumbs up emoji at the end 13:05 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 13:05 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:11 -!- cherrydog [~cherrydog@2a00:7c80:0:3bb::13] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:11 < hprmbridge> Eli> hey fenn, I'm not currently seeing any comments. 13:11 < fenn> great. 13:12 < fenn> why does it even let you comment if it goes nowhere 13:15 < hprmbridge> Eli> for some reason, I'm able to comment. Just did a test comment and it showed up immediately. 13:15 < fenn> you're logged in right? 13:16 < fenn> horrid UX from a UX company 13:16 < hprmbridge> Eli> i did it in incognito mode. Ok, just got a thumbs up from nobody at all. I'm assuming thats you? 13:16 < fenn> yes 13:16 < fenn> i will try to re-do them, but i'm sure i will forget about half of it 13:17 < fenn> it's not possible to watch the video the first time twice 13:17 < hprmbridge> Eli> Not sure what's going on. There is a loop button, and I also see that you can drag the playhead back to the front if you want. 13:18 < hprmbridge> Eli> ok, the comments you just made are coming in perfectly. 13:21 -!- cherrydog [~cherrydog@2a00:7c80:0:3bb::13] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:49 < hprmbridge> pinkbearer> Yeah I likely have these advantageous mouth bacteria already. I treated my mouth like shit and I've never had a cavity. They seem to enjoy just building plaque instead 13:50 < hprmbridge> pinkbearer> re: mouth probiotic thing 13:50 < fenn> pinkbearer do you have gum disease? i've heard there are two types of dental patients, those with cavities and those with gum disease 13:50 < hprmbridge> pinkbearer> I wonder if it has a genetic component as well 13:50 < hprmbridge> pinkbearer> No, not really 13:51 < hprmbridge> pinkbearer> Thoughever I think if I treated my mouth badly and let plaque build up it might end up producing gum disease 13:52 < hprmbridge> pinkbearer> My teeth have noticably degraded, they're a permanent off white with yellowish tint 13:52 < hprmbridge> pinkbearer> since I treated them so badly as a youth. Slightly chipped, white spots, etc. But never a cavity or even so much as tooth pain 13:55 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@user/superkuh] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59 < hprmbridge> Eli> @fennfoot , youre review is phenomenal! ❤️ I will make as many changes as I can based on your feedback. I think my biggest weaknesses are not having a trained voice actor or being able to currently afford a proper recording booth. Hopefully, if I get monetized, those can be some of the first things I plow back revenue into. After buying some type of editor, like you, to do peer review of my 13:59 < hprmbridge> Eli> videos. 13:59 < hprmbridge> Eli> 13:59 < hprmbridge> Eli> Hopefully I can make you guys proud with accessible, non-sponsored, evidence based educational material. There's not enough people in the middle of that venn diagram. 13:59 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@user/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:12 < fenn> there's nothing wrong with sponsorship as long as it doesn't compromise your judgement 14:13 < fenn> the main problem is that advertising is often completely unrelated to the content and just a waste of time for the viewer 14:35 < hprmbridge> Eli> sorry, I meant, not sponsored by CPG or biohacker products. I think information sponsorships, like a documentary service or educational subscription, are more ethical. 15:25 -!- test_ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25 -!- test_ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:50 -!- deltab [~deltab@95.154.230.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:59 -!- deltab [~deltab@95.154.230.49] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:21 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@bl11-102-149.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:35 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:42 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@bl11-102-149.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> The recording feels a bit off but that'd only be an issue imo if someone was actively trying to find fault. Your clear and not going umm or having audible breathing in every pause which makes you more listenable than a lot of my professors from unis recordings. 18:35 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> 18:35 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Maybe prep closed captions if you're really worried about it 18:35 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> I'm looking forward to some good content with integrity! 20:14 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:14 -!- mxz__ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:15 -!- mxz__ is now known as mxz 20:16 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:51 < hprmbridge> Eli> Thanks buddy. I use AI to generate the closed captions and then just have to make a few small changes. I just upload the CCs in a different file that loads based on selected language 22:21 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap --- Log closed Mon May 27 00:00:07 2024