--- Log opened Mon May 27 00:00:07 2024 01:27 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:30 -!- stipa [~stipa@user/stipa] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:32 -!- stipa [~stipa@user/stipa] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:24 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 02:24 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:50 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:53 < hprmbridge> soul_syrup> @fennfoot thanks for the nice links! I'll be adding this info to our library of methods 04:54 < hprmbridge> soul_syrup> Thanks! We won't be having any off-site needs, schooling will be in our community 04:55 < hprmbridge> soul_syrup> And yea fulltime 05:09 < hprmbridge> soul_syrup> I read the post on amarna and it seems like OP is just giving a lot of shallow opinions 05:17 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:21 < jrayhawk> Letting dentists convince you that dental plaque is inherently pathological is like letting surgeons convince you that having an appendix is inherently pathological. 06:24 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:30 < hprmbridge> soul_syrup> dont let dentists fool you, theyre like car mechanics in a lot of ways lol 06:35 < hprmbridge> soul_syrup> I snus loose tobacco daily(homemade simple ingredients), brush my teeth in the morning only, with some simple carbon non flouride toothpaste with some other natural ingredients daily, floss daily, gargle cheap vodka at night, never had a cavity, never any mouth problems, but I do put baking soda in my snus so that may have helped, could it have something to do with high amount of fermented 06:35 < hprmbridge> soul_syrup> vegetables and yogurts/kvargs/skyrs 06:36 < hprmbridge> soul_syrup> been to the dentist like 4 times in my life 06:42 -!- millefy3 [~Millefeui@91-160-78-132.subs.proxad.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:44 -!- millefy [~Millefeui@91-160-78-132.subs.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:44 -!- millefy3 is now known as millefy 06:46 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:49 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:15 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "Development of multiplexed orthogonal base editor (MOBE) systems" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-024-02240-0 08:22 < hprmbridge> pinkbearer> how so 08:40 < jrayhawk> It is only as pathological as the bacteria that inhabit it. 08:41 < jrayhawk> And the metabolic and immunological context they're placed in. 08:47 < jrayhawk> A reservoir of pathological bacteria creates a more robust pathology. A reservoire of healthy bacteria creates a more robust health. 08:48 < jrayhawk> er, s/reservoire/reservoir/ 09:41 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:42 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:58 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:02 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:37 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:10 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:58 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 13:26 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:08 < fenn> .m https://x.com/internetarchive/status/1795117949499445554 14:08 < AugustaAva> ​twitter: Sorry to say, http://archive.org is under a ddos attack. The data is not affected, but most services are unavailable. ␤ ␤ We are working on it. This thread will have updates. 14:09 < fenn> everything's broken :( 14:12 < pasky> I'm finally reading the diamond age and damn, the illustrated primer is a perfect llm application .. not sure if not possible already 14:15 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:19 < fenn> hi pasky. are you keeping up with the AI flood? 14:20 < fenn> the illustrated primer not only has interactive storytelling, it's also a physics simulation 14:20 < fenn> at that point i don't think we can call it a "language model" 14:20 < fenn> i'm sticking with "AI" because all the distinctions seem meaningless 14:20 < pasky> hm i'm still in a third of the book (at the dinosaur story), so probably still missing a lot, ok 14:21 < pasky> fenn: moderately 16:06 < hprmbridge> Eli> Looks like Minicircle is going after a much bigger market. Cancer patients, low T males, etc ... 16:06 < hprmbridge> Eli> Trying to get approved in multiple countries like Japan, etc ... Dave Asprey has a form on his site where I'm assuming he's getting a kickback for selling $25,000 minicircle therapies https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1244788814564823071/image.png?ex=6656636c&is=665511ec&hm=38948046c90af3779c50401f0bb0f0fc1173b195ee09a5e55307f74f5a8ca871& 16:09 < hprmbridge> Eli> FSH and low T are one thing. But I have to imagine if they start to try selling this to cancer patients that could be when Senators or the FDA steps in. Regardless, of jurisdiction. 16:11 < hprmbridge> Eli> If minicircle ends up being another theranos, I feel like there will be a major sea change in biohacker influencers and regulation. There's so many people and government organizations piling up on this therapy now. Multiple countries that want to use Minicircle. 17:09 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:19 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:52 < hprmbridge> Eli> I might be speaking to Patri Friedmn irl tomorrow. Anyone have opinions on what I should say? I want to stay humble, but maybe mention that if this is a Therano situation then he is just going to be making the argument that statists should have power. 19:38 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 19:38 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:45 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Yeah expressing a general worry that minicircle is potentially providing ammunition to interests which want to expand government powers is a good approach I think. The knee jerk reaction to any public outcry by governments is to extend the scope of their powers and then after they've had them for a while it becomes heretical to question the need for government involvement 19:47 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> We've also already got the US government talking about regulating DNA printing to protect us from bioweapons. Less fuel on the "let's regulate the technology to keep people 'safe'" fire the better 20:13 -!- mxz__ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:14 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:14 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:14 -!- mxz__ is now known as mxz 22:20 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:43 < jrayhawk> max has already talked to patri on several occasions about the biological implausibility 22:43 < jrayhawk> so don't waste your time on the biology angle 23:09 < hprmbridge> Eli> ok, I knew he had spoken to him. I didn't realize the conversations were in depth. I think if I get time with him I'll just stick to the concerned about the libertarian movement angle. It's basically clickbait if a libertarian island seems like it needs parental guidance. 23:21 < NewtonTrendy> https://pastebin.com/Fr5L5MTu --- Log closed Tue May 28 00:00:08 2024