--- Log opened Fri May 31 00:00:11 2024
00:09 < fenn> making anime real-er https://doubiiu.github.io/projects/ToonCrafter/ https://huggingface.co/Doubiiu/ToonCrafter/tree/main 
00:14 < fenn> (caution: video heavy page!)
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01:34 < fenn> wild challenger appears (not me) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241245986085666889/1246000961130856479/mp.png?ex=665acc52&is=66597ad2&hm=16cbc4677e6af6a5fc22ef8326bdc20f0ec9109efdc20ee9ae6a25a1395bc183&
01:35 < fenn> i find monkeytype difficult because it's random words so you have to dedicate extra thinking power to reading the words
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05:20 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.rstreet.org/research/existential-risks-and-global-governance-issues-around-ai-and-robotics/
05:29 < kanzure_> https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/anonymous-usage-tokens-from-curve-trees-or-autct/862
05:36 < kanzure_> "the guy on lesswrong who was advocating tax evasion is apparently being prosecuted now" who could have predicted this
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07:50 < L29Ah> .t https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g7UwkfoLO5s
07:50 < saxo> Debates: How to Defeat Aging – $10K Prize! Aubrey de Grey VS Peter Fedichev - YouTube
07:50 < L29Ah> where's that thing to tl;dr a video?
08:23 < NewtonTrendy> I hear that reprogramming the genome for aging related resets requires using the dna present in each cell, what effect would cutting Oct4, Sox2, Klf4, and c-Myc (OSKM) with CRISPR-Cas9 actually have? because you can buy the kits without a license for less than $200 per gene
08:24 < NewtonTrendy> I only have access to the abstract currently https://doi.org/10.1089/cell.2023.0057
08:27 < L29Ah> you can't reach each cell to edit its genetic information with the current tools, not even close
08:29 < NewtonTrendy> ie, would you just use the dna from one cell to perform the editing in some way?
08:30 < NewtonTrendy> each cell has information on how to build a whole you, apart from the reproductive cells, that contain hald
08:30 < NewtonTrendy> *half
08:45 < L29Ah> NewtonTrendy: you need to keep the epigenetic information of individual cells if you don't want turning everything into cancer
08:46 < NewtonTrendy>  I'm not happy cause its not fair.  It's not fair that some people get treatment and others dont and its not based on communal use just ability.  It's ovious that some people might not want to live.. too obvious. but at least give everyone the choice  and dont give reasons to not respond to pushing narratives that cause death in every following generation for the sake of it.
08:47 < L29Ah> universe is not fair
08:47 < NewtonTrendy> bad excuse to not try really though, isnt it
08:48 < L29Ah> other people may have other ideas on what to try
08:49 < NewtonTrendy> i wrote down some ideas, like an opt in system, but it was badly recieved, and no reasons that weren't based in paranoia and maental illness were given, while they think im the mad one for trying.
09:44 < hprmbridge> nuclear___gandhi> I've spent the past half hour googling about the drug "L29Ah", assuming the quoted message was stating it to be a superior nootropic to amphetamine. just realized the > denotes a bridge to the web chatroom(I'm using the discord text channel)
09:57 < ike8> its okay
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14:11 < fenn> i'm worried that an EA zealot will do a false flag "AI enabled" terrorist attack with the cynical goal of it being the only thing that can goad politicians into action, much like how the patriot act got put into place
14:12 < fenn> the bad thing here being the draconian laws passed in response, of course our thoughts and prayers are with the family
14:14 < fenn> andrew ng says that people in washington have largely stopped listening to them
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14:20 < L29Ah> one could beat EA zealots to it // https://manifold.markets/a2bb/ai-doomer-terrorism-in-2024
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14:22 < fenn> that's not a false flag though
14:24 < fenn> aren't these sorts of bets forbidden? isn't this an assassination market? https://manifold.markets/AlexanderLeCampbell/will-ai-doomers-turn-to-violence-by
14:24 < L29Ah> forbidden by who?
14:24 < L29Ah> it is
14:25 < L29Ah> btw manifold.markets "scammed" me for $260 of donate-money by making their play-money non-donateable, very don't recommend these EA zealots :[
14:25 < fenn> forbidden by the platform manifold.markets
14:25 < L29Ah> it isn't iirc
14:25 < L29Ah> they have loads of these
14:26 < fenn> they're trading real money now
14:26 < fenn> that's a nice prediction market you've got there, it would be a shame if something happened to it
14:27 < L29Ah> nah, you still can't get money out of it anywhere but for the approved charities
14:27 < L29Ah> https://manifold.markets/a2bb/will-manifold-add-life-extension-ch
14:28 < fenn> wow super lame
14:30 < fenn> the DNA on the banner is backwards
14:35  * fenn scrolls through pages of painfully boring AI bets
14:35  * fenn closes the tab
14:43 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Well I don't think anyone's gonna assassinate someone to get manifold play money. Now if it was a polymarket bet I might be worried
14:53 < L29Ah> https://polymarket.com/event/will-putin-remain-president-of-russia-through-2024
14:56 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Also good god manifold market is a shitty website it hardly works on my phone and is now causing chrome to freeze up
14:56 < L29Ah> damn TOS of polymarket is huge
15:00 < NewtonTrendy> nitrogen is the one i used to use
15:00 < NewtonTrendy> had a script to pull up arbs between nitrogen sports and cloudbet
15:00 < NewtonTrendy> then i got hacked and no one believed me
15:00 < NewtonTrendy> and it spiraled
15:04 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Hmmm if everyone participated in a betting market how would it effect elections? Because if everyone has a utility function that's of the form `log(wealth) + electionPreference` and you have a exponential wealth distribution the nash strategy for all involved might meaningfully bias the voting.
15:04 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> However there is the possibility that the time extended nature of the betting market means people should just vote how they want and the bet truthfully
15:05 < NewtonTrendy> interesting idea though
15:10 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Regardless betting markets now are sufficiently small and niche I doubt they move the dial so they're a fairly good indicator of outcomes. I kinda wanna take the polygon odds for each state and see what the election map looks like.
15:13 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> By "election map" I mean using the odds for all the markets (apart from the winner) as marginals to do MCMC sampling and then see what it implies who the winner is
16:12 < fenn> https://paywallreader.com/
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18:04 < hprmbridge> Eli> Trying to find high quality dna animations that are built correctly is insanely difficult. I’ve looked everywhere and I have no idea why this is the case
18:16 < hprmbridge> kanzure> use pdb
18:30 < hprmbridge> nmz787> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_vibration_syndrome
18:30 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I've been getting this a few times an hour lately
18:47 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://play.google.com/store/audiobooks/details/David_Zindell_The_Remembrancer_s_Tale?id=AQAAAECCvWb99M
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18:52 < fenn> nmz787: try magnesium glycinate
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18:52 < fenn> or epsom salt bath
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18:53 < fenn> https://www.tarses.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/arsenic-lotion.jpg
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20:10 < superkuh> https://carlwillis.wordpress.com/2017/02/03/a-nuclear-jockstrap/
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