--- Log opened Wed Jun 12 00:00:22 2024 01:04 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 01:04 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:04 -!- millefy [~Millefeui@91-160-78-132.subs.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:17 -!- Guest33 [~Guest33@118.200.157.224] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:18 -!- Guest33 [~Guest33@118.200.157.224] has quit [Client Quit] 02:56 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:00 < fenn> .m https://x.com/dril/status/1800763813379395706 03:00 < AugustaAva> ​twitter: cod warzone is shit now , all the guys on there are using CRISPR to make themselves more calm and mature and professional than me 03:12 < hprmbridge> Eli> All known metabolic pathways require water. Therefore, we can make a hypothesis that no life can successfully divide on Mars. An interesting question would be, "is there a particular reason that life cannot flourish without water?" from a biochemistry/biophysics perspective? I know the usual reasons they give for why life needs water. But, beyond that, are there hard limitations that prevent all 03:12 < hprmbridge> Eli> life from evolving even in a completely different type of environment? 03:12 < hprmbridge> Eli> 03:12 < hprmbridge> Eli> As an aside, the reason so much of grocery food tastes terrible is because shelf life is much better when CPGs are filled with salt and sugar to dessicate the food and prevent spoilage. The cookie you eat fresh baked at home tastes better than the cookie premade in a package. There simply isn't any way to overcome that biochemical limitation without risking the health of consumers. Potato chips > 03:12 < hprmbridge> Eli> potatoes for businessmen. 05:04 < kanzure> a biochemistry without water would take a lot of selection pressure... a really large amount. 05:28 < kanzure> https://arcprize.org/play 05:32 < L29Ah> what other polar solvent do you have on Mars or can synthesize from the environmental resources without too much hassle? 05:35 < kanzure> "Yann LeCun argues that humans are not general intelligence and that such a thing doesn't really exist." huh, didn't know that was his position. 06:30 < kanzure> collaborative in-browser decompilation platform https://decomp.me/ 06:32 < kanzure> https://decomp.me/preset/8 06:33 < kanzure> https://decomp.me/faq 07:19 -!- marsupialSoup [~marsupial@user/marsupialSoup] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:48 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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Today everyone uses micro-boiling to spit the ink drops, but back then it was laminar electrostatic wind, electrospray, and high-voltage deflection plates to draw the tiny black characters on paper. So, build a 1970 inkjet printer, and then use a 300KV VDG generator to write the ink onto 18:00 < fenn> surfaces 5ft away." 18:02 < fenn> "If a 2D sheet-version can block air at 1ATM, then you've got a "force field membrane," or an invisible airlock door from Star Wars. It's the same principle as the jet from a high-pressure firehose, which can be struck with a crowbar, and the steel bounces right off the water stream." 18:02 < fenn> someone needs to be collecting bill beaty's youtube comments 18:59 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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