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10:35 < NewtonTrendy> are there ai scholar highlighters?
10:40 < NewtonTrendy> fenn: can i link people to your claude description or should i host it or regenerate it myself? Attribution desired? How long will it be up, should i use archive.org?
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10:41 < NewtonTrendy> Most things I write about are CC0
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13:31 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://forum.oregoncryo.com/viewtopic.php?t=200 what is the precise fraudulent claim that deming has made?
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17:54 < fenn> NewtonTrendy: feel free to copy it
17:54 < fenn> no attribution needed or desired
17:54 < fenn> cc0 is fine
17:58 < fenn> my opinion of jordan sparks just went down two notches
17:59 < fenn> "Ask any real scientist (you know, the ones with the PhD after their name) and they will" tell you that cryonics is delusional charlatanry and we should have public canings for anyone interested in cryonics
18:03 < fenn> "tens of thousands of experts" is also not historically accurate
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19:52 < docl> looks like he edited the post since then
19:56 < docl> ah, I missed where you ended the quotation marks. he's a bit prone to black and white thinking, yes.
20:37 < fenn> (note for the easily confused, i am not claiming that cryonics is charlatanry etc, merely that "real scientists who wear a suit and tie" are likely to tell you it is)
21:28 < docl> I think Jordan read "we're building ... medical hibernation" and reacted to that. it's not as bad in context as he's saying, as the rest of the problem statement demonstrates Some Clue about what needs to happen to reach that point
21:29 < docl> one thing is, high throughput screening only works if you haven't exhausted the possibility space, so you need bigger molecules, which are harder to deliver
21:30 < docl> so you want something you can solve delivery for. I'd say trehalose since insects have transport proteins for that, but it's viscous in a concentrated solution. also humans have developed an enzyme to break it down, which might be a problem
21:32 < docl> if you are solving it for genetically modified tissue (or organisms, like designer babies) you could delete that enzyme (rarely used, we don't eat insects) and have the body synthesize it from glycogen stores or glucose
22:29 < jrayhawk> i think the better way to phrase it would've been "cryonics is indistinguishable from charlatanry and there is systemic disinterest in alleviating this within the field", but the same is true of many other scientific fields
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