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01:28 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Fenn maybe more importantly, is there any @home trashbag maker? Something that you feed (insert recycling number here) bottles or packaging or whatever, and get out a new kitchen trash bag. This would immediately put reuse into action and probably save a bunch of trucking fuel
01:28 < fenn> lol no. it's hard to make thin films from melt, you have to blow a big balloon and maintain tension and precise temperature control
01:30 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I spent like a whole day reading recently on what trashbags to buy, and ended up going with beidou-pac "tuv home" rated bags. PBAT+PLA+starch bags that seemed like they're going to more effectively move past microplastics stage of their lifecycle
01:31 < fenn> some of those compostable bags are unusably fragile
01:31 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Reviews seemed good, and we don't really throw much out that's wet, most of that gets buried in our compost pit
01:32 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Hopefully I get lucky and they work
01:32 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Without a mass spec or something though, they could just be lying about the contents sooo I'm still skeptical and was thinking just making my own bags would reduce how much trash I have to lug down the hill
01:33 < hprmbridge> nmz787> And then started thinking how some sort of burner for power usage or something would also be more convenient and maybe less greenhouse gas impactful :/
01:33 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Taking the trash out is a bit of a pain
01:34 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I've avoided it for at least the last 4 weeks I think
01:34 < fenn> how about a trash compactor / bailer
01:35 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Or rather , I've avoided taking it down the hill to the trash pickup spot
01:35 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Yeah i was thinking of a compactor
01:35 < hprmbridge> nmz787> My trash is still usually fluffy enough that I could keep collecting
01:35 < fenn> then you could just save it for winter
01:35 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Hmm
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07:42 < hprmbridge> Lev> as always i'm late to the convo, but euclidean domains are much much much easier for layout/routing optimization than the general case
07:43 < hprmbridge> Lev> There's very good algs for optimizing planar instances of the problems, but I'm 90% sure they aren't even present in tools like yosys at all
07:44 < hprmbridge> Lev> I don't have experience with commercial optimizers, so I'd hope they'd integrate stuff like that but tbh my hopes are low there too
07:47 < hprmbridge> Lev> that is it has a FPTAS, iirc
07:47 < hprmbridge> Lev> I think for the 3D case too
08:13 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://keras.io/examples/generative/random_walks_with_stable_diffusion/
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09:03 < fenn> .wik fptas
09:03 < saxo> "A fully polynomial-time approximation scheme (FPTAS) is an algorithm for finding approximate solutions to function problems, especially optimization problems.  An FPTAS takes as input an instance of the problem and a parameter ε > 0." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fptas
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09:32 < RangerMauve> Heyo, any book recs or reading lists for synthetic biology that folks would be down to share?
10:00 < hprmbridge> kanzure> depends, what are you interested in doing?
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10:03 < RangerMauve> I'm very interested in programmed morphogenesis right now. I don't have a degree or a lab so t's mostly to understand the space. My main skill is in crafting distributed databases and censorship resistent software but 'm hoping to pivot to some sort of synthetic biology long term
10:04 < hprmbridge> kanzure> okay so hox/box circuit stuff?
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10:06 < RangerMauve> Unsure! I've just been reading some stuff by Michael Levin and started reading a book by Mo R. Ebrahimkhani and Joshua Hislop
10:07 < RangerMauve> I think more "foundational" texts would be best for my current knowledge level.
10:09 < RangerMauve> Also been reading the Biostar handbook to get a grasp of what bioinformatcs folks are doing
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10:21 < RangerMauve> I don't think hox is the level I'm aiming for long term but books related to it would be great to have
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11:15 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Manhattan geometry is bog standard, getting even 45 degrees is an "upgrade" for most tools (not uncommon, but possibly a different mode of running, with longer runtimes)
11:23 < hprmbridge> Lev> I see that often as a layout constraint but not in the actual routing alg choice tbh, but I might very well be wrong there
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15:30 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2024-07-09a
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20:21 < hprmbridge> rei_likes_apples> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41589-024-01665-7
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