--- Log opened Sat Jul 13 00:00:51 2024 00:29 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:51 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:52 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:22 -!- fenn [~fenn@user/fenn] has quit [Server closed connection] 02:22 -!- fenn [~fenn@user/fenn] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:14 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:32 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:32 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:34 -!- faceface [~faceface@user/faceface] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:52 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:52 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:06 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:15 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@bl11-102-149.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:15 -!- pasky [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has quit [Server closed connection] 07:15 -!- pasky [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:23 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:23 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:26 -!- docl [~docl@user/docl] has quit [Server closed connection] 07:26 -!- docl [~docl@user/docl] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:34 -!- redlegion [redlegion@omghax.redlegion.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 08:34 -!- redlegion [redlegion@omghax.redlegion.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:08 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:08 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:48 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Pretty sure Vyvanse would turn me into a never-sleeping zombie. Amphetamines seem to affect me strongly for a lonnnnng time. So much that I pretty much gave up getting my prescriptions of dextro because it was just too disruptive to sleep 09:54 -!- gl00ten2 [~gl00ten@2001:8a0:7ef6:8700:19b7:5269:6d30:a6bf] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:57 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@bl11-102-149.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:59 < L29Ah> how much did you take and at what time of day? 10:01 < hprmbridge> nmz787> It's been more than a decade since I gave up getting a prescription filled every month for dextro, but I'm guessing 5mg-10mg 10:01 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Time was probably 8am plus minus an hour 10:02 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Maybe it was psychosomatic/placebo, but I felt like at midnight I could still feel it influencing me enough to disrupt sleep. I generally tend to stay up late if I'm not careful about forcing myself to slow down. 10:41 < docl> https://foresight.org/ext/ForesightNanotechTree/ 10:47 < docl> nothing about spiroligomers, must not be very complete. might be some good lit refs though 10:49 < docl> ah, bottom-up nanotechnology links to one of drmeister's talks 10:53 < docl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ09nW8UhU4 // C. Schafmeister | Hardware and Software of a Critical Path to Bottom-up Molecular Nanotechnology 10:54 -!- Croran [~Croran@user/Croran] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:14 < docl> worth watching/rewatching 11:26 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:28 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:38 -!- RangerMauve [m-4bpbmo@matrix.mauve.moe] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:40 -!- RangerMauve [m-4bpbmo@matrix.mauve.moe] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:40 < docl> wrt aldehyde fixation reversal, my current understanding is that (unlike the glucosapene crosslinks he mentions which involve a few specific long-lived structures), glutaraldehyde crosslinks are less specific and you'd need a ton of different specialized spiroligomers to get all of them. still, seems like it might be more plausible with the smaller enzymes possible with spiroligomers vs natural proteins 11:40 < superkuh> https://www.isaaa.org/gmapprovaldatabase/ - list of genetically modified crops approved for use in various countries 11:41 < fenn> glucosepane 11:41 < docl> darn it, I tried to google the spelling 11:42 < docl> this article misspells it like I did https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7276923/ 11:43 < docl> .wik Glucosepane 11:43 < saxo> "Glucosepane is a lysine-arginine protein cross-linking product and advanced glycation end product (AGE) derived from D-glucose. It is an irreversible, covalent cross-link product that has been found to make intermolecular and intramolecular cross-links in the collagen of the [...]" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucosepane 11:44 < fenn> why not just use a long molecule so a big enzyme can get in there and go chop chop 11:46 < docl> I sort of assume the small molecule fixing more stuff is an advantage for preservation 11:47 < docl> but maybe it's overkill to use something that small 12:15 < docl> (my argument wrt the glutaraldehyde being so nonspecific that you need to sense context to target it is kind of ungrounded, I might be wrong) 12:49 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:49 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:50 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:51 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:34 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://transhumanaxiology.substack.com/p/ice-the-penultimate-frontier 13:59 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:10 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:51 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 14:51 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:57 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:57 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:57 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:31 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:05 -!- Croran [~Croran@user/Croran] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:27 -!- gl00ten2 [~gl00ten@2001:8a0:7ef6:8700:19b7:5269:6d30:a6bf] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:03 -!- Croran [~Croran@user/Croran] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:03 -!- faceface [~faceface@user/faceface] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:05 -!- faceface [~faceface@user/faceface] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:31 -!- NewtonTrendy [Newton@user/bopqod] has quit [Server closed connection] 18:31 -!- NewtonTrendy [Newton@interestingoldpatents.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:00 -!- Croran [~Croran@user/Croran] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:05 < docl> I like the ice continent idea. I wonder if there are cheaper ideas in the adjacent space than the $20M/km^2 price tag. Apparently the ice itself is not that expensive. 19:16 < docl> hmm. if it's cold/dry enough, you can probably spray seawater into the air to make snow (mixed with salt). in a certain temperature range, my guess is the salt tends to mely part of the ice, making brine which flows back into the sea. so cheap platforms of ice might be possible cheaper than reverse osmosis 20:13 -!- mxz__ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:13 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:13 -!- mxz__ is now known as mxz 20:15 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:19 -!- NewtonTrendy [Newton@user/bopqod] has changed host 21:46 -!- test__ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:47 -!- test__ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:08 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:14 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:20 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:37 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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