--- Log opened Wed Jul 31 00:00:08 2024 00:29 -!- faceface [~faceface@user/faceface] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:31 -!- faceface [~faceface@user/faceface] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:40 -!- faceface [~faceface@user/faceface] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:42 -!- faceface [~faceface@user/faceface] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:47 -!- faceface [~faceface@user/faceface] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:55 < fenn> she says "pill mill" like it's a bad thing 00:56 < fenn> people who actually need adderall to function are uniquely disadvantaged by the healthcare system's implicit requirement that you are a functioning adult that can show up on time for appointments, make appointments of your own volition, bring several pieces of paper to a particular place within a narrow time window, etc. 00:57 < fenn> assuming you can even afford healthcare in the first place, which many can't after a life spent failing to interface with the impersonal societal machine 00:58 < fenn> and then they have the nerve to make an artificial "shortage" on top of it 01:19 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:33 -!- Croran [~Croran@user/Croran] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:40 -!- Croran [~Croran@user/Croran] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:56 -!- oxox [~oxox@user/oxox] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:04 -!- oxox [~oxox@user/oxox] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:08 < juri_> fenn: I have friends stuck in that cycle.. and it's just asking for them to get addicted to 'non-official' versions of what they need to function. 03:08 < juri_> your outrage is both understood, and shared. 03:24 < fenn> flexure 6dof motion stage seems useful for self replicating printers or nanotech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXULfD94gho&t=2m45s 03:24 < fenn> called "hexblade" 03:27 < hprmbridge> fennfoot> @fodagut ^ 03:46 < fenn> .t https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0141635922000770 03:46 < saxo> ScienceDirect 03:46 < fenn> just the paper for the hexblade positioner 03:47 < fenn> .t https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5436903 03:47 < saxo> Compliant 6-Degree-of-Freedom Precision Motion Stage: The Hexblade Positioner by TheFACTsofMechanicalDesign - Thingiverse 04:03 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:03 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:15 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: Wash your hands. Don't touch your face. Avoid fossil fuels and animal products. Have no/fewer children. Protest, elect sane politicians. Invest ecologically.] 04:16 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:26 -!- faceface [~faceface@user/faceface] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:29 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:56 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:18 < kanzure> hmm 05:41 -!- millefy4 [~Millefeui@91-160-78-132.subs.proxad.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:44 -!- millefy [~Millefeui@91-160-78-132.subs.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:44 -!- millefy4 is now known as millefy 06:11 < kanzure> there should be a tool that re-runs previous LLM prompts for me and shows me if there are any important output differences 06:11 < kanzure> if we are expecting LLMs to improve over time, then we should also expect there to be some sort of benefit to re-running old prompts and getting updates on the results 06:11 < kanzure> (save for throwaway prompts that nobody cared about to begin with) 06:12 < kanzure> same with web search engine query history. 06:33 < hprmbridge> setecastronomy1891> @hypercrowd 06:43 < hprmbridge> setecastronomy1891> I’m generally antigatekeeper when it comes to matters of health. Maybe with the advent of docbots, inefficiencies will go away or be radically diminished. That said, we’ve seen big tech marshaled to reduce the reach and subsequent impact of speech by groups of certain political persuasions. The risk that this bias is not carried over to healthcare automation is very real. 06:43 < hprmbridge> setecastronomy1891> 06:43 < hprmbridge> setecastronomy1891> A world where one group is afforded a set of therapeutics that drastically improves vs. slowly degrades QoL, is worthy of scrutiny, I think. 06:45 < hprmbridge> setecastronomy1891> Is it not painfully obvious, at this point, what is happening? 06:46 < hprmbridge> setecastronomy1891> ::resists urge to uncork political bottle:: 07:01 < kanzure> jrayhawk: why not hashcash for TLS certs instead of certificate authority? 07:03 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@2001:8a0:7ef6:8700:19b7:5269:6d30:a6bf] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:05 < L29Ah> setecastronomy1891: no it is not 07:05 * L29Ah bites the bait 07:14 -!- faceface [~faceface@user/faceface] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:27 < jrayhawk> kanzure: What's the threat model? 07:35 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 07:42 < docl> obviously this is someone trying to steer progress towards DIY adderall production kits 08:00 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 08:00 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:33 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:48 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@2001:8a0:7ef6:8700:19b7:5269:6d30:a6bf] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:14 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:16 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:29 -!- oxox [~oxox@user/oxox] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:40 -!- oxox [~oxox@user/oxox] has quit [Quit: quit] 14:05 -!- delthas [~cc0@2a01:4f9:c010:cf0b::2] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:10 -!- delthas [~cc0@2a01:4f9:c010:cf0b::2] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:19 < fenn> https://www.stunninglifestyle.com/tech/daisugi-japanese-forestry-technique/ 14:55 < RangerMauve> This but with organs 14:59 * L29Ah would bet on bamboo or paulownia 15:02 < L29Ah> > Examples of daisugi forestry can still be found in areas of northern Kyoto where it was developed, though Kitayama sugi plantations do not contribute significantly to the domestic lumber market as they once did.[8][9] 15:21 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:32 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:26 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:46 < fenn> .t https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-43594-4#Fig1 18:46 < saxo> Wood-based superblack | Nature Communications 18:49 < fenn> apparently this wood blackening can be done with high temperature plasma 18:51 < L29Ah> arc welder? 18:54 < fenn> the bulk material isn't conductive afaik 18:55 < fenn> could maybe do some microwave oven hijinks, but getting an even surface treatment would be hard 18:55 < fenn> plasma cutter maybe 18:55 < fenn> it needs to be in a reducing or inert atmosphere to carbonize instead of burn 18:56 < fenn> i just noticed nature has the citations in a column on the right when you click on them. this is an amazing improvement in the usability of academic papers, and i'm surprised it hasn't spread more widely 20:30 -!- mxz__ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:31 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:31 -!- mxz__ is now known as mxz 20:32 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:04 < fenn> still not a better summary than this 21:04 < fenn> .t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1WnmMYFt6U 21:04 < saxo> Mysterious spots may be signs of life 21:05 < fenn> iron reduction spots found on a rock on mars may be due to ancient microbial activity 21:05 < fenn> aka "cheyava falls" 21:16 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:58 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:59 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:38 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:30 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:48 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@193.147.150.204] has joined #hplusroadmap --- Log closed Thu Aug 01 00:00:09 2024