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00:28 < fenn> .t https://youtu.be/_cgTVTwu4nw
00:28 < saxo> NASA Rocket Engine Fireplace - 8 Hours in 4K
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02:36 < L29Ah> the singularity is already here, it's just unevenly distributed
02:39 < L29Ah> fenn: i was told academia is trying to avoid awarding tenures these days since it misplaces incentives compared to targeted grants
02:42 < L29Ah> > Editor’s Note: This article contains reference to death.
02:42 < L29Ah> what a trigger warning
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04:22 < hprmbridge> geraldmahony> intellectual calcification
04:25 < jrayhawk> the goal of the tenure system is to insulate intellectuals from politics
04:26 < jrayhawk> i guess politics sees insulation as damage and routes around it
04:34 < jrayhawk> is anything of marshall's actually worth reading? so far he seems big on aggrandizement and short on insight
04:45 < L29Ah> it just shifts all the politics into the tenure assignment decisions
04:46 < L29Ah> (additional to the incentive removal)
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12:25 < hprmbridge> Eli> Woodrew Wilson left academia and ran for President in order to "get away from politics"
12:56 < fenn> http://web.archive.org/web/20071027033643/http://marshallbrain.com:80/manna1.htm
12:56 < fenn> http://web.archive.org/web/20060420181731/http://marshallbrain.com/discard1.htm
12:57 < fenn> there was also some essay i liked about wholesale price transparency
13:02 < L29Ah> > Why do the authors of these stories imagine so much technology in these advanced civilizations, while at the same time assuming that none of this technology will spill over into the area of our biological bodies? 
13:02 < L29Ah> because it's easier to ask meatbags to move around in front of a camera than to draw all that technology
13:02 < fenn> http://web.archive.org/web/20070613152754/http://marshallbrain.com/etq-wholesale.htm
13:03 < fenn> l29ah this happens in the books too though
13:04 < L29Ah> i admit i haven't read any recent scifi, but for 20th century stuff i agree
13:06 < L29Ah> my frenly gamedev told the fiction works are like this because people are much easier to relate to their meatbag brethen than to transhuman otherkinds, so the crazy fiction doesn't reach me because i'm not actively looking for it, only reading the stuff other people recommended 
13:06 < fenn> there simply isn't very much transhuman otherkind fiction in existence
13:07 < fenn> it's rare enough to even get really alien aliens
13:07 < L29Ah> are moties alien enough?
13:07 < fenn> haven't read it, sorry
13:08 < fenn> considering his other alien characters in ringworld, probably not
13:08 < RangerMauve> I think Daniel Suarez did a good job of doing biopunk set in the not so distant future: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31396262-change-agent
13:09 < L29Ah> Blindsight aliens are the most alien i recall
13:09 < L29Ah> alright, that's 2006
13:10 < RangerMauve> Ooo yeah I loved those. Reacting to changes in your brain without needing concious thought themselves
13:10 < L29Ah> the worst is Blindsight narrator bullshitting you with the "consciousness" stuff all the time
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16:36 < alethkit> Is anyone aware of any experimental attempts to do the Waldo path to nanotech?
16:37 < hprmbridge> kanzure> which one is the waldo path
16:37  * L29Ah doesn't know the Waldo meme
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17:17 < alethkit> The one where you make progressively smaller machines
17:17 < alethkit> I think it is the one Feynman alluded to
17:22 < hprmbridge> kanzure> sorry hplusroadmap members are so far only doing direct mechanosynthesis
17:23 < hprmbridge> kanzure> Iim not familiar with any efforts in our group for the tiny hands approach
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