--- Log opened Thu Nov 28 00:00:02 2024 02:17 < TMA> L29Ah: fenn: published sci-fi is written by current meatbags for current meatbags. current meatbags are generally not interested in transcending their meatbagness (this group notwithstanding) 03:01 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:35 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 03:35 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:08 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@bl5-237-194.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:52 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:52 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:44 -!- millefy [~Millefeui@91-160-78-132.subs.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 07:44 -!- millefy [~Millefeui@91-160-78-132.subs.proxad.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:45 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 09:45 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:46 -!- etc-vi [~etc-vi@user/meow/girlchunks] has quit [Quit: nya] 09:47 -!- etc-vi [~etc-vi@user/meow/girlchunks] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:11 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has quit [Quit: 756 according to a new study, 97% of studies are filler material. keep worhipping paper. things happen through engineering 2024-11-28 18:11:57:799] 10:21 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 11:45 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:43 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:51 -!- codaraxis___ [~codaraxis@user/codaraxis] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:08 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:12 -!- gAy_Dragon [A_D@libera/staff/dragon] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 13:12 -!- A_Dragon [A_D@libera/staff/dragon] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:12 -!- delthas [~cc0@2a01:4f9:c010:cf0b::2] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:13 -!- delthas [~cc0@delthas.fr] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:26 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:29 -!- delthas [~cc0@delthas.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:29 -!- delthas [~cc0@2a01:4f9:c010:cf0b::2] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:23 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 16:30 < fenn> .t https://davidlang.substack.com/p/costs 16:30 < saxo> What should science cost? - by David Lang 16:31 < fenn> mass production or even serial handbuilt tools would greatly reduce costs and expand access to cutting edge science tools 16:32 < fenn> instead of like, ONE telescope you could have a dozen, that's 12X the data 16:32 < fenn> most of the costs are engineering and design, often lumped into "manufacturing" because people neglect to consider the thought that goes into fixturing and tooling a one-off 17:05 < fenn> https://www.open-raman.org/ $3k raman spectrometer built from off the shelf optical components 17:06 < fenn> still too expensive IMHO 17:10 < fenn> if laser spectral width is the expensive part, use a diffraction grating and collimator to get rid of the off-peak wavelengths 17:16 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:16 < fenn> ok i looked at the BOM, it's expensive just because everything is thorlabs. e.g. a 5V power supply is $83 17:31 < fenn> https://github.com/PaddlePaddle/PaddleHelix an open source AlphaFold-3 clone for protein structure prediction, allegedly, although the demo is down 17:32 < fenn> "non commercial" 17:32 < fenn> one wonders how they would check 17:33 < fenn> the model is ~1.3GB 17:35 < fenn> ... and you need 190 to 415GB of compressed genetic database in order to run it 17:35 < fenn> i thought alphafold was just sequence -> structure so i wonder what the database is for 17:42 < fenn> needs 32GB of VRAM 17:42 < fenn> seems like this could use a bit of quantization 17:44 < fenn> hmm maybe can just reduce the batch size 18:33 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 18:33 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:53 -!- mxz__ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:53 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:55 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:55 -!- mxz__ is now known as mxz 23:00 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap --- Log closed Fri Nov 29 00:00:03 2024