--- Log opened Wed Dec 25 00:00:28 2024 05:07 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:11 < nsh> semantic search of arxiv papers: https://papermatch.mitanshu.tech/ 07:30 < L29Ah> told it "Longevity HIIT", the first result has no mentions of HIIT anywhere 07:46 < nsh> -- 07:46 < nsh> I used MixedBread's [^1] embedding model to generate vectors from the abstracts. I store and search similar vectors using Milvus [^2] and finally use Gradio [^3] to serve the frontend. I update the vector database weekly by pulling the metadata dataset from Kaggle [^4]. 07:46 < nsh> To speed up the search process on my free oracle instance, I binarise the embeddings and use Hamming distance as a metric. 07:46 < nsh> -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42507116 07:49 < nsh> not getting exactly what was asked for is part and parcel of how 'semantic' search differs from [ranked] matching search 07:49 < nsh> the two approaches can however be complementary 07:51 < nsh> the acronym HIIT quite plausibly wasn't in the MixedBread training data 07:51 < nsh> 'The model was trained on a vast dataset of over 700 million pairs using contrastive training and fine-tuned on more than 30 million high-quality triplets using the AnglE loss function. This extensive training enables the model to adapt to a wide range of topics and domains, making it suitable for various real-world applications and Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG) use cases.' 08:17 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 08:17 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:09 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:11 < docl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0cU-CmjKNY // Seven Science Carols | A Capella Science 11:04 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:17 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:32 < fenn> .wik Russell Brain, 1st Baron Brain 11:32 < saxo> "Walter Russell Brain, 1st Baron Brain (23 October 1895 – 29 December 1966) was a British neurologist. He was principal author of the standard work on neurology, Brain's Diseases of the Nervous System, and longtime editor of the neurological medical journal titled Brain." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Brain,_1st_Baron_Brain 11:37 -!- ike8 [e8f913dbdf@irc.cheogram.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:37 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://eon.systems/ 11:38 -!- ike8 [e8f913dbdf@irc.cheogram.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:40 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@216.169.5.238] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:09 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@216.169.5.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:17 < fenn> michael andregg finally found a use for those millions of electron microscopes on a chip? 12:18 < fenn> has eon subsumed nectome? 12:18 < hprmbridge> kanzure> unclear to me. asking russell. 12:25 < fenn> i don't remember if i've talked about it here much, but in AI there's this technique called knowledge distillation where you can train one network to predict the activations of another network, and then you get the same behavior out the end without having to train from scratch 12:26 < hprmbridge> kanzure> search the life we have had this conversation before 12:26 < hprmbridge> kanzure> er, the logs 12:27 < fenn> it seems a lot easier to hook up a relatively small number of transcievers to neurons in a brain and predict those activations, vs completely scanning every synapse and dendrite and axon and cell body and so on, then somehow come up with a way to turn that structural data into functional data 12:28 < fenn> just collect functional data to start with 12:28 < fenn> of course this requires the brain to be operating, and could take a really long time to cover a large fraction of state space 12:30 < fenn> distilling also completely bypasses the rather difficult technical problem of emulation. since the student network can be any architecture at all, you can train a model that matches your inference hardware really well 12:33 < fenn> stimulating the brain to cover such a wide variety of states would itself be a subjectivity-fracturing experience, you wouldn't know if you were the clone or the original 12:35 < fenn> uh, unless you've been thusly-stimulated and then cloned, and could tell the difference (presumably being stimulated twice would be a similar experience, but being cloned would be different from being stimulated) 12:38 < fenn> you might not remember the process either way 12:53 < hprmbridge> kanzure> wasn't this a greg egan story 13:08 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:20 < fenn> yes, permutation city. but then it goes off the rails with some "but everything mathematically possible is real!" crap at the end 13:21 < fenn> also the movie "abre los ojos" 13:21 < fenn> i do not recommend jumping off of tall buildings 13:22 < hprmbridge> kanzure> no the other story 13:22 < hprmbridge> kanzure> about the diamond that confuses itself 13:22 < fenn> i must not have read it 13:23 < fenn> oh it's literally called "Transition Dreams" heh 13:24 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "learning to be me" 13:25 < fenn> 'dreams that your new, robotic brain has as it is being "filled up" with the patterns copied from your old, organic brain' 13:26 < hprmbridge> kanzure> not a diamond, a jewel, sorry 13:26 < fenn> battle angel alita has a similar thing 13:27 < fenn> worth noting that the new architecture won't necessarily learn in the same way as the old one 14:21 < hprmbridge> kanzure> nectome is involved, somehow 14:29 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:31 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:40 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:42 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:52 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:57 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:55 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:56 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:06 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:12 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:13 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:16 < L29Ah> https://neuromatch.social/@elduvelle/113715250479085716 17:16 < L29Ah> .t 17:16 < saxo> El Duvelle: '@jonny Yes! Incredible!!Here's a video from the…' - Neuromatch Social 17:17 < L29Ah> ants problem-solving video 20:23 -!- mxz__ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:24 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:24 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:24 -!- mxz__ is now known as mxz 20:29 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 20:29 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:37 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@220-138-192-182.dynamic-ip.hinet.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:41 -!- gl00ten2 [~gl00ten@101.12.98.149] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:43 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@220-138-192-182.dynamic-ip.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:18 -!- gl00ten2 [~gl00ten@101.12.98.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:30 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:19 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic> hey all 23:22 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic> trying out msep.one since it came out, has anyone else played with it? 23:23 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic> FYI: https://github.com/MSEP-one/msep.one --- Log closed Thu Dec 26 00:00:29 2024