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07:11 < jrayhawk> https://transformer-circuits.pub/2025/attribution-graphs/biology.html#dives-cot when being asked to introspect, neural networks fake self-awareness of internal reasoning processes surprisingly well
07:15 < L29Ah> just like humans
07:21 < jrayhawk> yeah, i updated towards distrusting human introspection a bit more
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10:16 < hprmbridge> Eli> Hey ya'll, I made a video on the He Jiankui affair and it's aftermath. After studying it, I feel like the guy was extremely reckless, at least in the eyes of Westerners. TBH, if he had chose something other than modifying the CCR5 receptor, and if he had gotten proper informed consent, I feel like his actions would have been less controversial. https://youtu.be/x8zOLTuMzYg
10:26 < hprmbridge> kanzure> informed consent is a moving bar
10:26 < jrayhawk> using a gene editing protocol with fewer off-target effects would've been nice
10:48 < hprmbridge> Eli> I think the Chinese claim was that some of the papers were forged. But, I'm just taking the word of the Chinese investigators. So, who knows?
10:51 < hprmbridge> Eli> What's current thinking on embryo editing? Basically base/prime editing?
10:55 < hprmbridge> Eli> The 2023 findings on CRISPR-Cas9 seemed not great, if true: https://www.genengnews.com/topics/genome-editing/warnings-to-avoid-using-crispr-cas9-on-human-embryos-reinforced-by-new-findings/
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13:32 < hprmbridge> kanzure> john young (cryptome.org) has passed away
13:42 < superkuh> Damn.
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