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20:54 < fenn> "I don't see any reason why e.g. Intel could not build a 96GB card and support the community to get pytorch or llama.cpp running smoothly on it, yet why don't they do it? They would sell it like crazy if they tick all boxes and for a competitive prize, could even establish their ecosystem"
20:54 < fenn> price*
21:53 < hprmbridge> kanzure> well that's probably more a thing of product timelines taking too long
22:03 < fenn> it's been years
22:04 < fenn> nvidia doesn't do it because it would cut into their overpriced "datacenter" products
22:05 < fenn> AMD doesn't do it because they're colluding with nvidia
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22:17 < hprmbridge> kanzure> the people desire more VRAM brotha
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22:23 < jrayhawk> intel already did make those cards; what is this person on about?
22:23 < fenn> what card
22:24 < jrayhawk> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/232873/intel-data-center-gpu-max-1550/specifications.html
22:24 < fenn> ok. so they don't want to cut into their datacenter segment
22:25 < fenn> i had no idea this existed fwiw
22:27 < fenn> the rant was more about limited VRAM in consumer GPUs
22:27 < jrayhawk> intel physical has been fucked for the past five years and their good stuff is perpetual unobtanium
22:29 < jrayhawk> i, too, would like affordable unicorns and leprechauns out of intel
22:30 < fenn> what's the problem? put more RAM chips on the board
22:30 < fenn> it doesn't have to be perfect
22:30 < jrayhawk> big busses involve big chips, big chips have shit yield
22:31 < fenn> use more chips, longer traces, lower bandwidth
22:31 < jrayhawk> if you don't care about bandwidth, that's what the CPU market is for
22:31 < fenn> it would still be higher bandwidth
22:32 < fenn> ugh nevermind arguing with you is pointless
22:33 < fenn> there couldn't possibly be $100 on the sidewalk
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22:55 < jrayhawk> although even in the CPU market intel is noncompetitive due to the aforementioned physical side being fucked
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23:13 < jrayhawk> the real market killer would've been optane dimms that didn't require thermal budget to refresh every cycle, but physical couldn't capitalize on that opportunity, either.
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