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10:46 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://github.com/langchain-ai/langgraph-swarm-py
11:28 < hprmbridge> kanzure> 15 billion parameter LLM for retrosynthesis https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.10285
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11:47 < superkuh> The links are dead.
11:47 < superkuh> re BatGPT-Chem
11:47 < superkuh> in the pdf
11:48 < superkuh> Not on Huggingface.
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11:49 < superkuh> https://github.com/zcli-charlie/BatGPT and https://huggingface.co/MYTH-Lab/BatGPT-15B-sirius/tree/main are the closest I can find.
11:49 < superkuh> Not the -chem one though.
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12:03 < L29Ah> perhaps someone asked it how to make VX and it successfully recited wikipedia, to the horror of the questioning party
12:05 < L29Ah> i guess you can ask the paper authors for it
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16:16 < fenn> .t https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/17/car-explosion-ivf-facility-palm-springs
16:16 < saxo> One person dead and five injured after car explodes near IVF facility in Palm Springs | California | The Guardian
16:16 < fenn> gee, i wonder if the explosion was an act of terrorism
16:20 < hprmbridge> kanzure> embryo gun rights would have prevented this
16:24 < fenn> all staff accounted for, no patients, so i guess the body is the perpetrator?
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17:29 < NewtonTrendy> Random unrefined nonsense on the soul, time consciousness, how ancient religious ideals can be made consistient with strict materialism, and "fundamental wave coincideance" in quantum physics https://www.perplexity.ai/search/please-search-for-any-sources-g4OqJiXISpqiLvYbQw2jtQ  tldr (sources are not links):
17:29 < NewtonTrendy> https://privatebin.fellowship.monster/?0d868bfa2bbd853e#7eX6zHrut16JXnmwg7BaKiqy533XpMJ9Kw342i9kjDk8
17:30 < NewtonTrendy> according to perplexity the idea aligns with modern science. also thinking about it in context of "light is not moving" "light is a fundamental wave such as how time coincides with another to cause the electron" https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fDBaYfW4uow
17:37 < NewtonTrendy> The problem i was having was how the thoughts (in perplexity) attempted to complete the task and it messed things up.
17:49 < fenn> philosophy is off-topic in this channel
17:50 < NewtonTrendy> what about stupidity?
17:50 < fenn> we discuss stupidity quite often
17:50 < NewtonTrendy> lol
17:50 < NewtonTrendy> its physics btw, it just overlaps with philosophy
17:51 < NewtonTrendy> and it overlaps with religious  science
17:52 < NewtonTrendy> the sources perplexity found are pretty much all physics studies
17:56 < NewtonTrendy> fenn: is there some concept that a single challenging angry message just means ack
18:06 < fenn> you are very difficult to communicate with so i am not going to try
18:07 < fenn> don't post "Random unrefined nonsense"
18:09 < hprmbridge> kanzure> there is no soul, there is no consciousness, you are bad at philosophy, you should not try connecting these topics to quantum woo nor wave duality anything of that sort, and you should stop
18:10 < NewtonTrendy> the problem isnt me, its that you are denying real things
18:11 < hprmbridge> kanzure> oh okay
18:11 < hprmbridge> kanzure> you're right! boundaries are an awful idea
18:11 < hprmbridge> kanzure> let's just have all the bullshit ok?
18:11 < NewtonTrendy> and youre sarcastic so no one bothers to explain
18:12 < NewtonTrendy> pretty much yes, yes, yes, use ai so we dont have boundaries so we can live forever, if you didnt get it
18:18 < NewtonTrendy> youre right, i find it difficult, thats because post things that contradict reality, and make it difficult for me to explain without contradicting someone who is really attached to their idea, because i dont have the community to help justify it, i dont have a lot of respect for an *adult* who justifies deliberate sexual intent with minors, but if youre going to do the work. then what often
18:18 < NewtonTrendy> happens is people ban me before i explained, doesnt change the fact its on the radio weeks, months or years later half the time, and it just gets easier to explain later. why does it feel like you are trying to hide the ideas. i guess i wont fall to terrorism even if there is a risk to myself, even if you have different ideas about whats normal.
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18:19 < L29Ah> in other news, some ppl in Montelibero are planning opening corpse cryostorage in .me
18:26 < fenn> blergh. chemical reaction prediction data looks like this:
18:26 < fenn> CCCCCCCCCCCC(=O)OC[C@H](CO)O[C@@H]1O[C@H](COS(=O)(=O)c2ccc(C)cc2)[C@@H](O)[C@H](O)[C@H]1O>>CCCCCCCCCCCC(=O)OC[C@H](CO)O[C@@H]1O[C@H](CSC(C)=O)[C@@H](O)[C@H](O)[C@H]1O  1
18:29 < L29Ah> [some smiles with an arrow] [some coefficient]
18:29 < L29Ah> lgtm
18:30 < L29Ah> do you have a better encoding on your mind?
18:32 < fenn> no, just struggling with my ignorance
18:33 < fenn> some other stuff looks like this, i guess it's a reaction mechanism, catalysts, and yield? C#Cc1cccs1>>c1csc(c1)C#CC#Cc1cccs1§[CH:1]#[CH:2].[CH:8]#[CH:9]>>[CH:2]#[C:1][C:8]#[CH:9]§C#C;§piperidine§dichloromethane§§87
18:37 < L29Ah> maybe not yield but equilibrium; this no longer looks like proper SMILES so you'd better read what's the actual syntax they use
18:37 < fenn> >reaction§reaction with atom-mapping§functional group 1;§functional group 2;§reagent 1|reagent 2§solvent 1|solvent 2 §catalyst 1|catalyst 2§yield
18:37 < fenn> where >> is the separator to separate the left part (reactant) and the right part (product)
18:38 < fenn> i dont really plan to do anything with this but i was curious what the training data looked like
18:38 < fenn> there is about a gigabyte of this
18:38 < fenn> as uncompressed text
18:39 < L29Ah> most of it generated from several hardcoded reaction classes, i suppose
18:39 < fenn> 1.4 million reactions is a small dataset by LLM standards
18:39 < fenn> it's mined from academic literature and USPTO
18:50 < fenn> hmm pubchem is 1.6TB guess i wont be hoarding that today
18:52 < fenn> could probably chop off a lot of decimal points in the molecular structure coordinates
18:55 < fenn> possibly compressed to 50GB with xz but for some reason nobody has done that
18:56  * fenn sighs and goes off to find candy and mope
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