--- Log opened Tue May 20 00:00:48 2025 02:32 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:41 -!- flyback [~flyback@2601:540:c700:2380:1911:1711:d05f:ea28] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:42 -!- flyback [~flyback@2601:540:c700:2380:fea:14a4:2088:95e0] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:30 -!- balrog [znc@user/balrog] has quit [Quit: Bye] 07:33 -!- balrog [znc@user/balrog] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:51 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: Avoid fossil fuels and animal products. Have no/fewer children. Protest, elect sane politicians. Invest ecologically.] 07:52 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:20 < RangerMauve> @Eli Is there a way to test for stuff like that? Being defficient in magnesium or other things. I had a blood test recently but hadn't spent time actually reading it. 09:27 < RangerMauve> gemini://tilde.town/~hush/gemlog/2024-02-10.gmi 09:28 < RangerMauve> Interesting take on transhumanism being troublesome due to costs making augmentations inaccessible to those that most need them 09:29 < RangerMauve> IMO widespread transhumanist tech would bring costs down for those needing augmentations for accessibility. The article cites hearing aids being several thousand dollars as an example. I'd counter that airpods and galaxy buds are examples of hearing aids being made for average people that enable people that need it for accessibility for much cheaper 09:30 < RangerMauve> Mainstreaming augmentations IMO would be a source of empowerment for those with less compared to how expensive it is while augmentations are a niche market 09:31 < RangerMauve> > since everyone, including me with the benefit of hearing aids, could hear the announcement, it wasn't provided. Because the technology existed to adapt me to the hearing world, no consideration was given to ways to adapt the hearing world to me 09:31 < RangerMauve> This is a big mood though. :/ 09:33 < L29Ah> RangerMauve: most of todays widespread goods were born as luxury 09:34 < L29Ah> some people just refuse to study economy and history of technology 10:07 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 10:07 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:40 -!- nefercheprure [tma@twin.jikos.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:40 -!- _flood [~flooded@149.102.226.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:40 -!- sivoais_ [~zaki@199.19.225.239] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:42 -!- ike8 [e8f913dbdf@irc.cheogram.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:42 -!- TMA [tma@twin.jikos.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:42 -!- sivoais [~zaki@199.19.225.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:42 -!- ike8 [e8f913dbdf@irc.cheogram.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:51 < hprmbridge> Eli> Magnesium is so cheap, I'd just try it and see if you notice a difference. Safety profile is great. We have big trials on it. And it should be one of the easiest things to QA/QC, so theoretically, I wouldn't worry about impurities from any of the big vendors. I take mg glycinate, sometimes called mg bisglycinate. There are other forms that people claim have different effects. But, that's the one I 10:51 < hprmbridge> Eli> take. 11:42 < ike8> it might give you the shits though 11:58 < jrayhawk> inorganic magnsium will do that 12:02 < hprmbridge> Eli> Youre thinking of mg citrate or mg oxide. Mg glycinate is absorbed well. This prevents solutes in the gut from causing osmotic diarrhea 12:05 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:08 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:12 < kanzure> https://www.corememory.com/p/china-blocks-gene-editing-newlyweds-cathytie-hejiankui 12:18 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@31.22.144.208] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:19 < hprmbridge> Eli> on x, jk said his passport was taken #freeourboihejiankui 12:24 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@31.22.144.208] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:26 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@31.22.144.208] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:30 -!- Gooberpatrol_66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:35 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@31.22.144.208] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:01 < RangerMauve> Reguarding trial and error this post is interesting regarding "stochastic tinkring" for medicine. gemini://library.inu.red/document/sebastian-a-b-decentralizing-science-local-biohacking 14:01 < RangerMauve> I've been on a bit of a gemini kick :P 14:02 < RangerMauve> @Eli I'll give it a shot 14:02 < RangerMauve> > Statists are already calling for regulation, but restrictions are quite unenforceable (the tools and knowledge of garage science are becoming ever more accessible). 14:08 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@2001:8a0:7ee5:7800:46d9:f5c:17a2:432] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:09 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: Avoid fossil fuels and animal products. Have no/fewer children. Protest, elect sane politicians. Invest ecologically.] 14:10 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:20 < hprmbridge> Eli> I gotta be honest, some of the stuff we can do now is a little terrifying. We can gain of function bird flu (60% deadly in humans) to make it airborne. What stops a terrorist from doing this? 14:20 < hprmbridge> Eli> 14:20 < hprmbridge> Eli> If I were to bet money, I would put it on accidental lab leaks/malice causing problems in the future. We found smallpox randomly hanging out in some guys freezer a few years ago. 14:20 < hprmbridge> Eli> 14:20 < hprmbridge> Eli> What happens if someone wants to watch the world burn? Terrorists saw that Covid was many orders of magnitude worse than 9/11. Conventional terrorism is basically childs play at this point. 14:20 < hprmbridge> Eli> 14:20 < hprmbridge> Eli> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4810786/ 14:28 < RangerMauve> Maybe because the terrorists have to exist in this world too and aren't suicidal enough? 14:30 < RangerMauve> Really makes me wanna run away to live in the woods :P 14:32 < hprmbridge> Eli> Terrorists aren’t suicidal enough 🤔 14:38 < L29Ah> educate them that watching the world burn is boring compared to achieving biological immortality 14:38 < L29Ah> can also fund space colonization while you're at it just in case 14:52 -!- nefercheprure is now known as TMA 14:54 < hprmbridge> Eli> We need a terrorist scared straight program ✍️ 14:57 < TMA> my hypothesis is that you need to be at least X-smart to be able to do the engineered flu or something similar but you need to be at most Y-smart to be a terrorist 14:58 < TMA> Y < X 14:59 < RangerMauve> Yeah, I imagine that the issue Eli is hinting at is that the value of X is dropping year by year 14:59 < RangerMauve> womp womp 15:00 < L29Ah> in other news, i still didn't figure an easy and safe way to detonate ammonium nitrate 15:21 -!- stipa_ [~stipa@user/stipa] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:23 -!- stipa [~stipa@user/stipa] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:23 -!- stipa_ is now known as stipa 15:34 < TMA> doing evil is really easy, except for the actually doing it part. for all my disdain for "ethics" hindering progress I still seem to be bound by some form of them (primum non nocere) 16:53 < hprmbridge> Eli> We need a suicide hotline for terrorists. 9/11 could have been prevented 16:56 < L29Ah> 9/11 is not a single person effort, so to say 18:15 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:45 < fleeky> anyone trie mk677 for sleep 18:48 < fleeky> nmz787: sorry what were you saying about biotech + semiconductor ? 18:55 < fleeky> RangerMauve: just gotta say how nice aggregore and its multi protocol support is 18:56 < fleeky> like a dummy i just pasted that gemini link , never even touched gemini and it just works (tm) thank you :) 20:08 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:40 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:06 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 23:06 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:35 < jrayhawk> biotech + semiconductor lab space 23:47 < jrayhawk> the specific goal of 9/11, as was described by those inside the operation, was to entangle the U.S. in the middle east to accelerate an apocalyptic prophecy ending in the instantiation of heaven on earth, not to generate the highest body count --- Log closed Wed May 21 00:00:49 2025