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01:12 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Pretty cool esp32 wristwatch (T-Watch-S3) with gps/accel/lora/mic/speaker (i think) https://a.co/d/6d09Cmg
01:12 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Only downside is it's $77
01:21 < fenn> a friend just mentioned esp32-c3 supermini boards are $1.59 on aliexpress
01:23 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I was thinking of a tool for fieldwork where you can press a button and it sounds a tone until there's enough satellite gps quality and you save a data point, like when you've just planted a tree there
01:26 < fenn> duck tape it to your shovel
01:26 < fenn> never lose your shovel again XD
01:29 < fenn> i wonder how well wifi trilateration would work, assuming you had a device with GPS to calibrate the process
01:30 < fenn> like you have the watch you wear around the ranch to build up a map of wifi and bluetooth signal fingerprints versus GPS, and then all your stuff you want to track has the $2 wifi-only boards
01:30 < fenn> this is how "location" works on phones, google just won't give us the raw data
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06:38 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "Machine-guided dual-objective protein engineering for deimmunization and therapeutic functions" https://www.cell.com/cell-systems/abstract/S2405-4712(25)00132-2?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS2405471225001322%3Fshowall%3Dtrue
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07:31 < fleeky> https://corticallabs.com/cl1.html
07:31 < fleeky> if you squint you can see the first brain in a vat 
07:32 < fleeky> makes me think of hydroponics honestly
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07:33 < fleeky> i wonder what specific things a nutrient bath lacks for a brain to continue functioning ? would you also need an artificial heart to pump blood through it ? what other robotic features are needed 
07:38 < hprmbridge> kanzure> if you search the backlogs we have extensive discussions about harry's company. henry? anyway, there's also like 4 competitors (pink inference, final spark, timatagen, ...)
07:38 < hprmbridge> kanzure> yes a brain needs blood flow. unless you mean a tiny organoid?
07:39 < fleeky> https://www.utsouthwestern.edu/newsroom/articles/year-2023/oct-device-keeps-brain-alive.html
07:39 < fleeky> oh hah i am behind
07:39 < fleeky> but the cl1 is actually for sale now
07:39 < fleeky> i was mostly musing on brains in vat not organoids
07:40 < hprmbridge> kanzure> cl1 has like 8 channels or something insanely low, it looked stupid
07:40 < fleeky> kanzure: do you know of any companies with serious research / goals for putting brains in vats to allow the brain to live on ? 
07:40 < fleeky> haha
07:40 < fleeky> good to know 
07:40 < hprmbridge> kanzure> you need high dimensional input/output with thousands or millions of channels ideally
07:40 < hprmbridge> kanzure> just use the finalspark API if you want to experiment
07:40 < fleeky> i figure if you can just keep the brain alive you could get some BCI for input / output
07:41 < fleeky> but would you need an artificial nervous system ? 
07:41 < hprmbridge> kanzure> I believe there are currently at least two companies that are working on whole body transplants to keep brains alive
07:41 < fleeky> whole body transplant , but not into a vat but into another body not robot ? boringgg
07:41 < fleeky> just kidding thats also interesting , just not what i was looking for atm
07:42 < fleeky> always figured the idea of just putting a brain in a vat is naive , there must be more things that are necessary from the body for the brain to live beyond just nutrient rich blood / flow 
07:43 < hprmbridge> kanzure> The search term you were looking for is organ perfusion equipment
07:43 < hprmbridge> kanzure> and heart-lung machine etc
07:53 < fleeky> but would you need say a vagus nerve connected to an artificial stomach (stomach brain theory) and would you need an artificial nervous system for the brain to not go nuts upon turning it on ? 
07:54 < fleeky> also if the cl1 is weak sauce is there a better machine in the works you are aware of ? 
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09:23 < RangerMauve> fenn Wifi RSSI is not reliable in my experience. You can get very vague positioning compared to GPS, but probs better than nothing.
09:37 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://x.com/brian_armstrong/status/1929340369457848561
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11:39 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Fenn picked up 3 of those esp c3, along with a kit of o rings grommet things for $1.18, an assortment of 200 transistors in a plastic tray for $1.46... garden hose gaskets for $0.59
11:40 < hprmbridge> nmz787> All this delivered from China...
11:40 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Is pretty crazy for the price
11:40 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Tariffs anyone?
11:40 < hprmbridge> nmz787> My $9 order would have bern $5 damnit!
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18:58 < hprmbridge> Eli> Cathy has a good sense of humor https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1380365172538998794/IMG_1931.png?ex=68439cbf&is=68424b3f&hm=462a4a85483b17936729d054455f2161581bd27731971ba975f8e746d67f078d&
18:58 < hprmbridge> kanzure> it's just agitprop
19:01 < hprmbridge> Eli> I’m out of the loop. Is there some sort of psyop going on?
19:01 < hprmbridge> kanzure> yes? for her startup
19:02 < hprmbridge> Eli> I saw the unicorn announcement. I just wasn’t sure if there was something else involved.
19:02 < hprmbridge> kanzure> they be doing embryo stuff
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21:26 < fenn> fleeky: i don't think you'd need anything beyond a nutrient rich blood flow, and maybe an immune system. humans live fine without vagus nerve, gonads, adrenal function, etc.
21:27 < fenn> not sure if the immune system would be happy if there's nothing to fight
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23:17 < fenn> https://starfishneuroscience.com/blog/ultra-low-power-miniature-electrophysiological-electronics/
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