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03:43 < hprmbridge> Katylase> hi friends! how are you?
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10:43 < hprmbridge> norkatron> https://blocksandfiles.com/2025/06/06/sandia-turns-on-brain-like-storage-free-supercomputer/
12:00 < hprmbridge> nmz787> kanzure found a good and stupid problem that might be simple but complicated for automated GUI testing and development
12:00 < hprmbridge> nmz787> lol
12:00 < hprmbridge> nmz787> contradiction much?
12:01 < hprmbridge> nmz787> so wxpython... combobox in a grid cell (excel like cell view)... user wants to single-click and have the cell with combobox open the drop-down
12:01 < hprmbridge> nmz787> but it isn't working the obvious way
12:02 < hprmbridge> nmz787> and trying more complex approaches cause weird glitches, like the widget gets shown and hidden multiple times
12:03 < hprmbridge> nmz787> so I could manually double/triple click the cell to get the popup to show as-desired....  take a screenshot, then I guess use the screenshot-based testing helper you found (can't recall name now) to sanity check the tests
12:03 < hprmbridge> nmz787> and I guess setup aider in some agentic loop using that test
12:09 < kanzure> i don't understand your messages. looks like there's 3 separate problems:
12:09 < kanzure> one is that the combobox click feature is not implemented correctly or not working
12:10 < kanzure> or the context menu dropdown feature is not even possible in wxpython, that's unclear to me
12:10 < kanzure> a second issue is that there are problems around testing this behavior
12:10 < kanzure> and a third issue is that there is a development loop problem?
12:11 < hprmbridge> nmz787> it is possible, but buggy and the implemetation to get there is not obvious, and without pre-existing public working demo
12:11 < kanzure> possibly you are referring to http://www.sikulix.com/
12:11 < hprmbridge> nmz787> my dev loop was hack the code, open the gui, click, alt-tab, ctrl c, hack, repear
12:11 < hprmbridge> nmz787> repeat
12:11 < hprmbridge> nmz787> yeah that was it
12:12 < hprmbridge> nmz787> eww it needs java
12:12 < hprmbridge> nmz787> gross
12:12 < kanzure> i am sure there are others!
12:12 < kanzure> iirc often in cells what they do is have a menu button on the right-hand side of the cell that you click to get the drop-down menu. this also sounds a little bit like the as-you-type suggestion UX interface that websites use for eg helping users type tags.
12:13 < hprmbridge> nmz787> in this case there's no prediction/filtering-as-you-type desired
12:14 < hprmbridge> nmz787> just embed combobox into a grid cell... and instead of clicking once to select the cell, clicking again to start editing it, clicking the drop-down button that appeared last click
12:14 < hprmbridge> nmz787> the first click does it all
12:14 < hprmbridge> nmz787> seems simple in concept... on first click of a cell, check if it's a combobox editor cell, then focus it and call the popup method
12:15 < hprmbridge> nmz787> but.... calling popup somehow causes the original editor instance to get hidden, then a new one is created, and then that list is shown ,but like without scroll bars, something about focs
12:15 < hprmbridge> nmz787> focus
12:15 < hprmbridge> nmz787> idk, it's a stupid annoying issue
12:15 < hprmbridge> nmz787> and it is a stupid annoying development loop
12:16 < kanzure> well, you can get the development loop down to a much shorter cycle if you use wxpython + a repl of a smaller application, instead of your full application
12:17 < kanzure> i think you can import wxpython and do frame.show() stuff straight into ipython
12:17 < kanzure> possibly without interfering with the wxpython event loop? i dunno
12:19 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Already using a minimal example gui with just that widget
12:19 < kanzure> possibly from wx.py.shell import Shell ?
12:20 < kanzure> ah. so you are deep into dev hell.
12:20 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I am not even needing this feature, just code golfing based on some forum post asking for help, and the damn solution consumed hours of time with me getting addicted to being unfulfilled
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16:16 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/fda-cell-and-gene-roundtable-makary-rfk
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18:22 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "Gastruloids enable modeling of the earliest stages of human cardiac and hepatic vascularization" https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adu9375
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