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01:33 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Met cto of efabless earlier, and tim ansell, john McMaster, bunnie huang
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03:42 < L29Ah> https://cointelegraph.com/news/texas-police-open-crypto-atm-family-scam-funds-bitcoin-community-question-decision
04:11 < hprmbridge> kanzure> @nmz787 good crew.
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10:00 < alethkit> nmz787, where did you meet? Is there a FOSS silicon foundry conference going on today?
10:01 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Teardown Portland after-party at hacker space
10:02 < hprmbridge> nmz787> There's a second day of talks today, not much if any silicon on schedule
10:02 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I only went for the party
10:10 < alethkit> Oh, fun!
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15:34 < hprmbridge> Eli> I made a short video on the topic. Immediate ban on funding GOF in China and Iran (which, I'm not sure anyone is going to be funding GOF in Iran atm ...). I think the government ordered itself to come up with new rules on GOF in the US. TLDR: we never should have been funding GOF in countries that are historically not transparent. https://youtu.be/a8hy-kHEbBk
15:42 < kanzure> my idea to fix academic publishing in light of the US government public access policy and the ongoing commercial publisher capture of the scientific community https://x.com/kanzure/status/1936917582075809960
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15:45 < kanzure> Oops - important criteria to add: your university must be a member of this consortium and funding the 'journal' if you want to be eligible for the honorary "Nature" award. Otherwise you are ineligible. I believe they use this model in the entertainment guilds.
16:12 < L29Ah> are there countries that are historically transparent?
16:51 < hprmbridge> kanzure> hm?
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16:58 < L29Ah> re Eli
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18:06 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.chatacademia.com/
18:31 < hprmbridge> kanzure> genetic pacification "Courts imposed the death penalty more and more often and, by the late Middle Ages, were condemning to death between 0.5 and 1.0% of all men of each generation" https://x.com/kitten_beloved/status/1871067523380322763
18:32 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "I tried my hand at the math a while ago, and executing 1% of the population would reduce the genetic predisposition to being executed by 0.0069 SD per generation."
18:34 < fenn> at what age
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18:36 < fenn> 0.1 SD doesn't sound like enough to matter
18:37 < hprmbridge> kanzure> also wouldn't crime still have positive expected value if you don't get caught?
18:37 < fenn> can anyone understand that calculation?
18:37 < hprmbridge> kanzure> oh right, genetic predisposition to being executed, not crime
18:38 < fenn> it's probably better to have smart murderers than dumb murderers
18:38 < hprmbridge> kanzure> calculation https://www.sebjenseb.net/p/checking-the-numbers-did-homicide
18:39 < fenn> did they stop using lead pipes around then
18:39 < fenn> or adding lead acetate to wine or something insane like that
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19:36 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://accessanalog.com/ an analog synthesizer cloud service for music production
19:47 < hprmbridge> kanzure> wait, no synths?
19:52 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "real VCOs drift daily" ugh what
19:57 < hprmbridge> Eli> I don't think there are any governments that like to be completely transparent. AFAIK, the main goal of the government seems to be not to be embarrassed in front of their citizens. And that's when we get gov/politicians/judicial system trying to discredit/discount things that are true.
19:57 < hprmbridge> Eli>
19:57 < hprmbridge> Eli> Having said that, I don't think scientists in the US usually get thrown in jail for disclosing things. Our system tends to throw people in jail for destroying records, whereas, some countries destroy records and then throw people in jail who try to preserve them. China lied to the WHO during the original SARS epidemic in the early 2000s. There was even a Chinese lab leak of SARS in 2004 that
19:57 < hprmbridge> Eli> killed people. The US government was so alarmed by this that they banned GOF funding, specifically for coronaviruses, due to the inherit risk of creating the virus equivalent of a nuclear bomb. They overturned their own rule in 2017. And the director of the CDC said China was dishonest about the 2019 pandemic. In a western country, we would probably have the answer by now, or we would get the full
19:57 < hprmbridge> Eli> details in a documentary in 20 years. Because it's China, I kind of wonder if we will ever know the complete story.
20:31 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.livespice.org/
20:48 < fenn> surely we can train AI on analog synths for perfect reproduction bugs and all
20:49 < hprmbridge> kanzure> even the non-linear dynamics that we can't sample because we can't sweep the full set of audio signal input space?
20:50 < hprmbridge> kanzure> I dunno if it matters, I'm no audiophile
20:51 < fenn> just reduce the (analog) computational complexity per step
20:51 < hprmbridge> kanzure> so, aliasing?
20:51 < fenn> i mean don't try to learn a whole train of composed functions, learn each transfer function individually
20:52 < fenn> and then you *can* sweep the whole input space
20:53 < fenn> it would be funny if they were actually doing this and nobody could tell
20:53 < fenn> yeah dude it's totally a warehouse full of robots *muffled laughter*
20:56 < fenn> @Eli i'm sure "we" already know the complete story
20:57 < fenn> the only reason you and i know anything at all is due to incompetence (inability to keep secrets) and some shreds of idealism remaining in government employees
20:59 < fenn> let's get real, "gain of function research" is just a front for next-gen bioweapons development
21:13 < hprmbridge> Eli> Well, there were some pretty big claims that never made it into the media. The CDC director believes that it was originally developed as a way to spread a vaccine without needles. He says it was supposed to allow ariborne vaccination without any side effects. And then there was a leak. I'm really not smart enough to know if this makes any sense or not.
21:13 < jrayhawk> re: not getting executed: Various degrees of exile would also decrease genetic proliferation.
21:19 < hprmbridge> Eli> https://x.com/danaparish/status/1857119315603882141
21:21 < fenn> why would anyone need an airborne live vaccine?
21:21 < fenn> it doesn't make sense to me
21:23 < fenn> "they didn't want to have to use needles" is not a reason
21:24 < fenn> mail eppendorf tubes of oral vaccine to everyone, done
21:24 < fenn> that would take all of one day
21:30 < fenn> good twitter thread
21:32 < fenn> $200 https://www.compcooler.shop/products/full-body-cooling-garment
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