--- Log opened Mon Jul 07 00:00:34 2025 00:51 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:25 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:25 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:05 -!- justanot1 [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:06 -!- justanot2 [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:08 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:10 -!- justanot1 [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:23 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:23 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:08 -!- Guest46 [~Guest46@89-24-43-95.nat.epc.tmcz.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:08 -!- Guest46 [~Guest46@89-24-43-95.nat.epc.tmcz.cz] has quit [Client Quit] 05:22 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:23 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:11 < kanzure> hmph 06:22 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:22 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:21 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:22 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:21 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:21 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:20 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:21 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:26 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@user/superkuh] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:28 < RangerMauve> Neat output from an aI hackathon. https://devpost.com/software/research-map-ai Tool for scanning research and building a mind map. 09:46 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@user/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:20 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:20 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:19 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:55 < kanzure> a service for "AI code edit apply" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44490863 not clear to me if this is the same as the cursor autocomplete magic, or if this is merely the LLM "apply proposed edit to file" feature. 11:55 < kanzure> ah, "tab API" ok 11:56 < kanzure> "Our Next Edit Prediction model guesses your next code edit + action with sub-500ms latency" is this the same problem? or is it a different problem? 11:57 < kanzure> general rule of thumb is to feel smooth as butter you need <400 ms responsiveness 12:19 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19 -!- _flood [~flooded@193.37.254.181] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:08 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:14 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:49 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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