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01:31 < TMA> cloudflare is hit and miss for me. either it permits me through in a second or an endless loop of checkboxes ensues
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05:46 < L29Ah> is TA-65 a vitamin?
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12:23 < hprmbridge> kanzure> light sail idea https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.17615
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16:43 < hprmbridge> kanzure> biocomputer companies: Cortical Labs, Emulate, Organovo, Tara Biosystems, Hesperos, Altis Biosystems, Osiris Biosciences, BrainChip, StemoniX, BrainCloud Biosciences, Cybergenics, OrganoTherapeutics, Simbec-Orion, NeuCyte, and InSphero.
16:46 < hprmbridge> kanzure> well some of those obviously aren't. nevermind. and where's finalspark?
17:05 < hprmbridge> .monokhrome> Is it possible to make a giant circular mass driver out of satellites orbiting the sun? You could launch probes that way, no need for solar sails or tethers
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17:10 < L29Ah> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB8pvrnHywk
17:11 < L29Ah> monokhrome: yes but you will have to offset the trajectory changes from the payload-satellite interactions somehow
17:12 < L29Ah> also it is hard to apply much energy over the tiny flyby times
17:14 < L29Ah> where is non-broken libgen these days?
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17:34 < hprmbridge> .monokhrome> I didn't know libgen is still around, most people seem to be using anna's archive
17:35 < L29Ah> anna's archive is a libgen mirror, yes, thanks
17:35 < hprmbridge> .monokhrome> it also has stuff I've never seen on libgen
17:36 < L29Ah> it is behind clownflare :/
17:38  * L29Ah hopes someday we will be able to get magnets to specific books in the libgen archives quickly that lots of people seed nowadays; so far indexing is fucked up
17:39 < L29Ah> oh anna's archive has it if one enables js... :/
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19:13 < fenn> a circular mass driver wouldn't go anywhere
19:14 < fenn> you want a radial string of satellites, but the orbital mechanics don't work out so well
19:14 < L29Ah> it would if it was rigid
19:15 < fenn> uh huh, right
19:15 < L29Ah> but then you'll have the "orbit" maintenance problem like with a dyson sphere
19:15 < L29Ah> hmm one could maintain it in part by shooting payloads...
19:16 < fenn> a better system is rotating tethers, but they don't scale up to relativistic velocities
19:16 < fenn> there is a reason people talk about beam riders
19:23 < fenn> "Cycloastragenol is a triterpenoid isolated from various legume species in the genus Astragalus that is purported to have telomerase activation activity. ... Cycloastragenol was patented by Geron Corporation and sold to Telomerase Activation Sciences in early 2013 who are developing it as a product named TA-65."
19:24 < fenn> animals who don't eat enough of this vitamin eventually die
19:24 < fenn> (i'm joking)
19:26 < fenn> another bad joke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pak_Protector#Tree-of-Life
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19:59 < hprmbridge> .monokhrome> you could launch each payload alternating between clockwise and counterclockwise so it balances out
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20:55 < fenn> how do you redirect a massive object moving a hundreds of km/s?
20:56 < fenn> at*
21:11 < hprmbridge> .monokhrome> The original article was about launching interstellar microprobes
21:13 < fenn> by massive i mean more than a single atom
21:15 < fenn> in the TARS concept the payload is attached to start with, it doesn't grab onto a free body and accelerate it in a new direction, like you'd need for a polygonal trajectory
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21:29 < hprmbridge> .monokhrome> I don't know. The mass driver would be in orbit around the sun, it may be large enough so there's very little angle involved
23:58 < juri_> fenn: I thought the evolutionary plotline for humanity (you are all children!) was a good take.
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