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00:16 < fenn> .t https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.21734
00:16 < saxo> [2506.21734] Hierarchical Reasoning Model
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07:33 < L29Ah> monokhrome: https://arxiv.org/html/2507.12213v2
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11:27 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "saving a png file to a bird" https://youtu.be/hCQCP-5g5bo?t=17m
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15:53 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "DNA-directed assembly of graphene homostructures" https://pubs.aip.org/aip/jap/article/138/4/044303/3356079/DNA-directed-assembly-of-graphene-homostructures
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18:37 < fenn> "although human immune cells are not infected by CPMV (cowpea mosaic virus), they respond to it and are reprogrammed toward an activated state, which ultimately trains them to detect and eradicate cancerous cells,” Anthony Omole UCSD
18:39 < fenn> "CPMV stimulated type I, II and III interferons (signalling proteins that help fend off infections and cancer cells ... RNAs of CPMV lasted longer, reaching the endolysosome where they activated toll-like receptor 7 (TLR7)"
21:51 < fenn> 64% of women under 50 say they just don't want children, compared to 50% of men (pew research)
21:51 < fenn> both very high numbers
21:52 < fenn> https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2024/07/25/the-experiences-of-u-s-adults-who-dont-have-children/
21:53 < hprmbridge> kanzure> whim and desire is no way to scale to a trillion
21:54 < fenn> i for one welcome our robot nannies, as long as they get out of the way once we're grown up
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21:55 < hprmbridge> kanzure> real world robot nannies, if they worked, would create entirely new classes of parental neuroticism ("you can't step away to do the dishes without having a 100% robo-nanny keeping watch")
21:56 < fenn> level four nanny or higher
21:57 < hprmbridge> kanzure> also, with unitree and the other humanoid producers on the market, i expect to see designer clothing brands as a class-sefeegated way to bling out your robots
21:57 < hprmbridge> kanzure> class-defregated
21:57 < hprmbridge> kanzure> uh...  class segregated.
21:58 < fenn> real class segregation will be having human slaves, uh i mean servants
21:58 < fenn> guess why earth isn't a member of the galactic federation
21:59 < hprmbridge> kanzure> most people can only afford virtual slaves, we call it claude 4 max turbo 20
21:59 < fenn> i don't disagree
21:59 < hprmbridge> kanzure> (no really, they went sick in the head on product naming)
22:00 < fenn> did you mean claude 4 max turbo 20 2601 or claude 4 max turbo 20 improved
22:00 < hprmbridge> kanzure> neither, because i as a humble user do not deserve the dignity of actual release or version numbers
22:00 < fenn> consumer*
22:01 < hprmbridge> kanzure> anyway, i don't think "cultural change" is a reliable fix for the birth rate problem
22:02 < hprmbridge> kanzure> and a lot of the people worried about that stat are coveting a RETVN to the times before the sexual revolution, which seems profoundly unlikely to me.
22:03 < fenn> careful they might call you names like techno-solutionist
22:04 < fenn> seems possible that the walling away of children from the world is causing this lack of motivation
22:04 < hprmbridge> kanzure> you can't be a racist if you consider yourself to be a new species!
22:04 < hprmbridge> kanzure> whatever the cause is, not sure it matters. only direct solutions matter.
22:05 < hprmbridge> kanzure> one weird thing is, why is it only the telegram dude and elon with 50+ kids? we should be able to deliver this capability to a lot of other people.
22:06 < hprmbridge> kanzure> this argument is similar to the "don't make a policy to give financial incentive to people to go from 0 to 1 kids, but people who have 2 to make 6" but applied at a bigger scale
22:07 < hprmbridge> kanzure> there's probably enough people that would be interested in having 20 or 30 kids if it was uhh normalized or culturally okay or otherwise facilitated.
22:08 < fenn> the telegram dude didn't even know unti lrecently
22:08 < hprmbridge> kanzure> weep for the depraved lack of vision bestowed upon most peoples
22:08 < fenn> women want billionaire sperm, shocking but true
22:08 < hprmbridge> kanzure> so be it
22:10 < fenn> i don't think there's enough people that would want 20 or 30 kids
22:10 < hprmbridge> kanzure> is there a good eric hunting millennial project style book that goes over the moral case for aiming for a population of several trillion? did TMP make this case or was it lowpop?
22:10 < fenn> i never actually read TMP
22:11 < fenn> "phase 8: Galactia – colonize beyond the Solar System, expand throughout the galaxy heading to a level 3 on the Kardashev scale,"
22:12 < fenn> seems like it must have talked about population scaling at some point
22:12 < fenn> i think underpopulation was never on anybody's radar in the 20th century
22:13 < fenn> or at least nothing i was aware of
22:14 < hprmbridge> kanzure> not even under population... just generally, what the hell are we doing here? if we look at the charts and see it going up, what's the vision exactly?
22:14 < hprmbridge> kanzure> and yeah under population is now a concern, but we still lack loud interesting visions of what this is gonna look like
22:19 < fenn> this just seems like such a bad idea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Cola_Wars
22:19 < fenn> like i wouldn't be surprised to find out that it was actually done by an anti-capitalist satire group like the yes men
22:21 < hprmbridge> kanzure> never heard of that. guess those ad dollars didn't reach me?
22:21 < fenn> it was 1985...
22:21 < hprmbridge> kanzure> welcome to the moon, that's one small step - sponsored by nike!
22:21 < hprmbridge> kanzure> yeah but it's evergreen
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