--- Log opened Thu Oct 16 00:00:09 2025 00:07 -!- rafspiny [~raffaele@a120210.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:14 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:28 -!- rafspiny [~raffaele@a120210.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:31 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:35 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:20 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:25 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:44 < hprmbridge> kanzure> odd, why use 3%? this seems like something that should be simulated mcmc with very conservative assumptions. 01:57 < fenn> "Whether it is to be Utopia or Oblivion will be a touch-and-go relay race right up to the final moment… Humanity is in a final exam as to whether or not it qualifies for continuance in the Universe." - R. Buckminster Fuller 01:58 < hprmbridge> kanzure> can your memento wish be regarding your resuscitation in the ultimate eschaton? 01:59 < fenn> i don't see why not 02:00 < fenn> for a mere quadrillion dollars someone ought to be able to make it happen 02:30 -!- MuaddibLLM [muaddib@pasky.or.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:41 -!- MuaddibLLM [muaddib@pasky.or.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:16 -!- flooded [~flooded@149.88.18.226] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:54 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: Avoid fossil fuels and animal products. Have no/fewer children. Protest, elect sane politicians. Invest ecologically.] 04:54 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:09 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:04 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:04 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:12 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://github.com/opentimestamps/restamp 06:21 -!- catalase [~catalase@user/catalase] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 06:21 -!- catalase [~catalase@user/catalase] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:44 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:54 < fenn> good torture test for your VCS filesystem code 08:20 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 08:20 -!- TMM [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:21 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1428402574242877562/image0.jpg?ex=68f25f10&is=68f10d90&hm=faa5c0fff5e6d6feb21dbe180b472f619628a06bbd5b233cf87e6388296fe26a& 08:37 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@194.117.40.120] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:37 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@194.117.40.120] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:37 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@194.117.40.120] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:17 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:35 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:48 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:03 < kanzure> discord bridge bot is only showing the first link when multiple images are posted. oops1 10:03 < kanzure> multiple images have been posted before, quite often. just now noticing it is not relaying that. 10:11 -!- WizJin_ [~Wizzy@2402:a00:184:8354:24c0:ff45:5724:4242] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:14 -!- WizJin__ [~Wizzy@2402:a00:184:8354:24c0:ff45:5724:4242] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:27 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:40 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:32 -!- srat3_ [~srat3@user/srat3] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:32 -!- dartmouthed [~blackunsp@li761-35.members.linode.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:35 -!- sivoais_ [~zaki@199.19.225.239] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:35 -!- nmz787_ [~nmz787@user/nmz787] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:36 -!- dartmout- [blackunspe@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe79:fbf7] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:36 -!- srat3 [~srat3@user/srat3] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:37 -!- saxo [~saxo@zug.infomesh.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:37 -!- sivoais [~zaki@199.19.225.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:37 -!- nmz787 [~nmz787@user/nmz787] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:37 -!- srat3_ is now known as srat3 12:37 -!- saxo [~saxo@zug.infomesh.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:53 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@194.117.40.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:48 < kanzure> https://quintinfrerichs.xyz/human-enhancement-companies 13:58 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@89-180-170-151.net.novis.pt] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:44 -!- jrayhawk [~jrayhawk@user/jrayhawk] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:59 -!- jrayhawk [~jrayhawk@user/jrayhawk] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:11 < kanzure> gotta start being more careful about adding "think very hard before responding" into my prompts. 15:19 < kanzure> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Generals%27_Problem 15:20 -!- gl00ten [~gl00ten@89-180-170-151.net.novis.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:50 < TMA> thinking is not always advantageous 16:54 < TMA> I have tried exactly the same prompt with the same model (qwen 3?) once with thinking on, once off; the thinking version argued itself into ignoring the request and doing "a simplified example" 16:55 < TMA> The line of "reasoning" went 'this is difficult, let's solve a simplified version instead' 17:01 -!- stipa_ [~stipa@user/stipa] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:04 -!- stipa [~stipa@user/stipa] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:04 -!- stipa_ is now known as stipa 17:31 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:59 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:02 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "Decision-theoretic rationality is supposed not to be hostage to the whimsy 18:02 < hprmbridge> kanzure> of the world. It is thus natural to suppose that a subject’s game-theoretic rationality 18:02 < hprmbridge> kanzure> should not be hostage to the whimsy of others’ play." 18:07 < hprmbridge> kanzure> from "paradoxes of common knowledge" https://philpapers.org/archive/LEDTPO-3.pdf 18:12 -!- Hooloovoo is now known as Hoolooboo 18:16 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:18 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 18:20 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:03 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:15 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:28 < kanzure> https://cursor.com/blog/tab-rl 19:51 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:51 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:54 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:31 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1428586139136163963/image0.jpg?ex=68f30a05&is=68f1b885&hm=e2f3ffcdb64f5cbf3f783253ceaa2db4393ee4fb2e5453b0d2b2d6d8f205a9a3& 20:31 < hprmbridge> kanzure> from https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/the-chemistry-community-should-ban-drawing-chemical-structures-with-generative-ai-chemists-warn/4022242.article 21:33 -!- etc-vi [~etc-vi@user/meow/girlchunks] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:49 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:01 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:11 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:24 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:01 -!- TC [~talinck@172-2-128-195.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:29 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:34 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-82-174.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:41 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap --- Log closed Fri Oct 17 00:00:10 2025