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| percent_ | ugh, adderal | 00:37 |
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| kanzure | Hm? | 00:37 |
| percent_ | actually, ugh, asperger's | 00:37 |
| percent_ | Both of them are fucking stupid. | 00:37 |
| percent_ | All the people I know who do adderal are cracked out on it. | 00:38 |
| percent_ | They work, hardcore, till they drop dead | 00:38 |
| percent_ | and I think "aspies" are ridiculous | 00:38 |
| ybit | amphetamines!!.. man, i miss those | 00:39 |
| ybit | still waiting on my modafinil to get here | 00:39 |
| percent_ | Nasty, nasty shit. | 00:39 |
| percent_ | Ha, tell me how it is | 00:39 |
| ybit | i've had it before | 00:39 |
| ybit | it's wonderful | 00:39 |
| percent_ | I rely on exercise and good diet to control the ADD, is modafinil good? | 00:39 |
| ybit | ^ | 00:40 |
| percent_ | It's got that special forces aura that I love | 00:40 |
| percent_ | stay awake for 72 hours. | 00:40 |
| percent_ | It apparently also doesn't distort you like amphetamines | 00:40 |
| percent_ | The people I know who take adderal | 00:40 |
| percent_ | it dominates their life. | 00:40 |
| ybit | indeed | 00:40 |
| ybit | but i'd take anything right now | 00:40 |
| ybit | i miss my meds | 00:41 |
| percent_ | I can force through the lack of focus. | 00:41 |
| ybit | distilled coffee just doesn't cut it for me | 00:41 |
| ybit | kanzure, thanks for the links in the email. i've been reading all i can about neuroscience lately | 00:42 |
| percent_ | try exercise and good diet | 00:42 |
| ybit | i do those too :) | 00:42 |
| percent_ | Exercise MORE | 00:42 |
| ybit | hehe | 00:42 |
| percent_ | Remember to yell loudly while you lift weights | 00:43 |
| kanzure | percent_: Drop dead, eh? | 00:43 |
| kanzure | Aspergers seems to be somewhat real as far as I can tell. | 00:43 |
| percent_ | It's a disease with no physical, chemical, or genetic component. | 00:43 |
| percent_ | Sounds to me like bullshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttt. | 00:43 |
| kanzure | Forcing through the lack of focus ... how the hell do you do this? | 00:43 |
| kanzure | No, there's genetic components. | 00:43 |
| percent_ | I sit there and force myself to focus. | 00:44 |
| percent_ | Show me. | 00:44 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/intense_world_syndrome.html | 00:44 |
| ybit | 2 summers ago i was running 12 miles a day, 6 days a week.. now i'm only running 1.2 miles + around 200 yard sprints per day 6/7days | 00:44 |
| kanzure | I don't have links to Entrez at the moment, but I'll get you a few soon. | 00:44 |
| ybit | ^concerning exercise | 00:44 |
| percent_ | One of the other severely ADD guys I know is a runner. | 00:44 |
| percent_ | I find that martial arts does the trick for me. And climbing. | 00:44 |
| percent_ | Also, try flax seed oil, I find it clears my head. I can just concentrate if I force it. | 00:45 |
| ybit | when i came across bryan's website, my exercising routine came to a standstill having to sift through so much to understand what was going on :P | 00:46 |
| kanzure | :) | 00:46 |
| kanzure | ybit: Are you ADHD? | 00:46 |
| ybit | yep | 00:46 |
| percent_ | Me too. | 00:46 |
| kanzure | There's a huge difference between ADD and ADHD, from what I can tell. | 00:46 |
| ybit | i understand the H part | 00:46 |
| percent_ | See, ADHD people get along quite well | 00:46 |
| percent_ | Nobody can deny we're the most creative muthafuckas ever to walk the planet. Ritalin Raiders, rep-re-SENT. | 00:47 |
| percent_ | I don't really identify with a disorder, though. | 00:47 |
| percent_ | I found a glowing ecoli kit | 00:49 |
| percent_ | I can do it the easy way or I can learn it and do it the hard way | 00:49 |
| * ybit gets some sleep | 00:56 | |
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| kanzure | ping | 01:03 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/pipermail/hplusroadmap/2008-June/000627.html | 01:03 |
| willPow3r | back | 01:22 |
| kanzure | Hey willPow3r. | 01:24 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/intense_world_syndrome.html | 01:24 |
| kanzure | ybit: You see the big ideas that I'm throwing around all the time in here? | 01:36 |
| kanzure | I think you mentioned that this was only after reading mostly everything on the site? | 01:36 |
| kanzure | I think that's sounding like a pretty good success story of usability of the site or something ;-) | 01:36 |
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| faceface | I don't like the bit about "I truly doubt that a directed intelligent process, like programming, is a naturally occuring evolutionary process." | 02:52 |
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| -!- Topic for #hplusroadmap: Intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXKbzbeipmI http://diybio.org/ http://openwetware.org/ | diy bio toolkit: http://biohack.sf.net/ | Automated societal knowledge (put it to work): http://heybryan.org/exp.html | Channel wiki: http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/ | F/OSS perspectives on Kurzweil: http://heybryan.org/fernhout/ | 08:17 | |
| -!- Topic set by kanzure [] [Sun Jun 8 13:00:15 2008] | 08:17 | |
| [Users #hplusroadmap] | 08:17 | |
| [ faceface] [ fenn_] [ percent_] [ ybit] | 08:17 | |
| [ fenn ] [ freer] [ procto ] | 08:17 | |
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| -!- Channel #hplusroadmap created Sat Mar 22 15:44:12 2008 | 08:17 | |
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| fenn | theo jansen seems to be aiming at clanking replicators maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b694exl_oZo&NR=1 | 11:03 |
| fenn | everything is made of the same pieces, implying an industrial ecology | 11:03 |
| fenn | the mechanism also seems to be popular in pepakura | 11:12 |
| kanzure | " See Mac's video of why techshop and DIYBIo are suited: | 11:14 |
| kanzure | http://www.vimeo.com/1087631 (note the Make Magazine DIYBIO on the table!) " | 11:14 |
| kanzure | all these darned videos | 11:14 |
| kanzure | where's me text | 11:14 |
| faceface | :-) | 11:29 |
| faceface | I just like the idea | 11:29 |
| faceface | (latest email) | 11:30 |
| fenn | faceface: havent you read "the sectret life of plants"? and if plants have nervous systems, why not bacteria | 12:15 |
| fenn | secret* | 12:15 |
| fenn | anyway a leucine transporter doesnt mean much of anything | 12:17 |
| fenn | it's just an amino acid | 12:17 |
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| kanzure | Hey willPow3r. | 13:45 |
| willPow3r | kanzure, what up | 13:47 |
| kanzure | Just wondering when we'll get a chance to duke it out. | 13:47 |
| willPow3r | lets see... | 14:04 |
| willPow3r | i need to get some donuts. brb | 14:07 |
| willPow3r | kanzure: how about sunday | 14:26 |
| kanzure | That's fine. | 14:27 |
| willPow3r | u in college? | 14:27 |
| kanzure | Username: i=bryan@dhcp-146-6-213-198.icmb.utexas.edu | 14:28 |
| kanzure | Apparently. | 14:28 |
| kanzure | http://icmb.utexas.edu/ | 14:28 |
| willPow3r | Firefox can't find the server at icmb.utexas.edu. | 14:28 |
| kanzure | Bah | 14:29 |
| kanzure | http://ellingtonlab.org/ | 14:29 |
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| kanzure | Hey Phreedom. | 14:31 |
| Phreedom | hi | 14:32 |
| willPow3r | using evolutionary approaches to change something, such as DNA, is not evolution. | 14:34 |
| kanzure | What would an evolutionary approach be ? | 14:35 |
| willPow3r | andrew ellington seems to have an idea | 14:35 |
| kanzure | I would argue that if there's selection, mutation and self-replication that it's a case of evolution. | 14:36 |
| willPow3r | use random sequence populations of aptamers to solve real-world problems | 14:37 |
| kanzure | hm? | 14:37 |
| kanzure | yes, that's generally what these guys are doing | 14:37 |
| kanzure | there's two people to my immediate left discussing a random pool that they just constructed | 14:37 |
| kanzure | ;-) | 14:37 |
| willPow3r | heh | 14:37 |
| willPow3r | evolution benefits the organism undergoing change, generally speaking | 14:38 |
| kanzure | Ugh? | 14:38 |
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| willPow3r | sorry, my brain hasn't turned on yet | 14:42 |
| willPow3r | kanzure, do you actually write everything on your site? | 14:43 |
| willPow3r | or is a lot of it copy/paste? | 14:43 |
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| kanzure | willPow3r: No, I write all of it. Anything that is not my words is usually in a blockquote object. | 14:48 |
| kanzure | Aha. | 15:37 |
| kanzure | I was wondering why there are so many people from Cambridge on hplusroadmap's mailing list. | 15:37 |
| kanzure | I remember now that somebody was mentioning it to a class at some university in England. | 15:37 |
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| kanzure | Hi all. | 19:28 |
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| kanzure | Hahah. | 21:01 |
| kanzure | I win. | 21:01 |
| * kanzure is on a Model M. | 21:01 | |
| ybit | oi kanzure | 21:02 |
| ybit | you're on a keyboard? | 21:02 |
| ybit | in response to what you said last night: " | 21:04 |
| ybit | [00:36] <kanzure> ybit: You see the big ideas that I'm throwing around all the time in here? | 21:04 |
| ybit | [00:36] <kanzure> I think you mentioned that this was only after reading mostly everything on the site? | 21:04 |
| ybit | " | 21:04 |
| ybit | grr, konversation :P... i became interested in synthetic biology and joined #biology, and then you mentioned this channel which lead me to your site. I was interested in the singularitarian/transhumanist before coming here, but you have pointed me to some really good information, saving me time | 21:08 |
| ybit | i was a singularitarian/transhumanist** -"interested in the" | 21:08 |
| ybit | phreedom and i had been talking about similar ideas for about year now | 21:08 |
| ybit | had/have | 21:09 |
| ybit | btw, what program did you use for your screencast? recordmydesktop or ffmpeg? i know it wasn't istanbul :) | 21:12 |
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| ybit | anyone know of someone in the boston area working on getting techshop there? | 21:27 |
| kanzure | Yes, I'm on one of those old IBM keyboards. You'll have to try it to understand, but there's a good reason why so many people obsess over these things :) | 21:29 |
| kanzure | ybit: are you stalking me? | 21:29 |
| kanzure | I just sent an email to robotgroup re: techshop | 21:29 |
| kanzure | http://lists.puremagic.com/pipermail/robotgroup/2008-June/009637.html | 21:29 |
| kanzure | I was using recordmydesktop. | 21:30 |
| kanzure | I remember it taking four or five hours to get my microphone configured properly :-p which wasn't an issue with recordmydesktop. Although the massive file dump that it does ... eh. It was estimating something like a few thousand gigabytes a minute, so obviously I had to cut down on resolution and so on. | 21:30 |
| ybit | was away wasting time watching: http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=228784531481853811 | 21:42 |
| ybit | hehe, stalking | 21:42 |
| ybit | yep, i'm a stalker | 21:43 |
| ybit | actually, no, i'm not. please don't ban me :P | 21:43 |
| * ybit is trying to form a dorkbot in this area | 21:44 | |
| ybit | or barcamp, or maker meeting | 21:44 |
| kanzure | I would strongly encourage you to not call it anything like that. | 22:13 |
| kanzure | dorkbot might be ok | 22:13 |
| kanzure | but Maker and Barcamp are kind of 'trademarked' sort of | 22:13 |
| kanzure | I'm starting to notice that it's sort of like a corporate scam | 22:13 |
| kanzure | while the people that throw these together are well intentioned, it looks peculiar | 22:14 |
| kanzure | especially with Make | 22:14 |
| kanzure | http://hplusclub.com/ is another possible avenue to explore (steal from) | 22:14 |
| kanzure | or http://techshop.ws/ and http://diybio.org/ and the list is truly rather endless. There are a number of old school organizations and groups that probably have local chapters at your nearest university. | 22:15 |
| kanzure | The type that sit around writing letters to representatives. | 22:16 |
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| ybit | kanzure: yep, we have tri-beta, but i also want something open to the public | 22:30 |
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| Splicer | worlds oldest living tree: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080416104320.htm | 22:46 |
| Splicer | 9500 years old | 22:46 |
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| kanzure | Hey Overand. | 23:00 |
| Overand | hi. | 23:03 |
| kanzure | Overand: I suggest looking at the /topic | 23:14 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/buildingbrains.html is also recent | 23:14 |
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