| --- Day changed Mon Aug 25 2008 | ||
| kanzure | I'm having some trouble locating a dataset listing the "impact factor" of various journals | 01:35 |
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| kanzure | I need a way to narrow down the 2k journals | 01:38 |
| kanzure | the total collection is too large, so I need to limit myself | 01:38 |
| kanzure | I figure this is about the only time in my life I'll really truly use 'impact factor' in a somewhat correct way ... | 01:39 |
| fenn | http://www.sciencegateway.org/rank/index.html ? | 02:01 |
| * fenn notes the conspicuous absence of any manufacturing journals | 02:02 | |
| kanzure | mechanical engineering though | 02:07 |
| kanzure | http://in-cites.com/research/2004/may_31_2004-2.html | 02:07 |
| kanzure | well, that's universities | 02:07 |
| kanzure | hm | 02:08 |
| kanzure | what about mineralogy? | 02:08 |
| kanzure | hah | 02:08 |
| kanzure | http://in-cites.com/top/2005/third05-geo.html "top 10 scientists" | 02:08 |
| kanzure | SCIENCE | 02:09 |
| kanzure | Masao Kanamitsu, 'Description of the NMC Global Data Assimilation and Forecast System' | 02:11 |
| kanzure | fairly interesting achievement | 02:11 |
| * fenn is highly skeptical of any citation index | 02:12 | |
| fenn | its like trying to predict the stock market | 02:12 |
| kanzure | I guess I could just download them all until my hdd space runs out | 02:14 |
| fenn | hmmm please get ieee spectrum for the last 30 years for me :) | 02:15 |
| kanzure | that's probably more worthwhile than anything else I've been getting | 02:15 |
| kanzure | I've picked up a lot of interesting things from that site | 02:16 |
| kanzure | interesting, the singularity issue is the second link on the google results page | 02:16 |
| kanzure | wait, I mean xplore | 02:16 |
| kanzure | what's spectrum? | 02:16 |
| fenn | uh, same thing? | 02:16 |
| fenn | i meant xplore i guess | 02:17 |
| kanzure | ieee.org is the one that wants no "intelligent agents" downloading their site ;-) | 02:17 |
| kanzure | so I guess I need to find a dumb agent | 02:17 |
| kanzure | monkey on a keyboard | 02:17 |
| fenn | you could use one of those hourglass birds | 02:18 |
| kanzure | http://www.rachel.infinitemonkeyproductions.net/oldsite/rpg/Ubik/images/monkey_typing_grey.gif | 02:19 |
| kanzure | hourglass birds? | 02:19 |
| kanzure | oh | 02:20 |
| kanzure | the pecking birds | 02:20 |
| kanzure | same motions as chickens? | 02:20 |
| fenn | http://www.christianbaxter.com/blog/uploaded_images/drinking_bird-782492.jpg | 02:21 |
| fenn | i never noticed that they had hats | 02:22 |
| kanzure | hm, http://ieee.tv/ | 02:42 |
| bkero | Haha. <3 my friend Ty. http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v336/239/84/528175388/n528175388_3952683_1878.jpg | 03:46 |
| kanzure | mmm... terrorism ... | 03:59 |
| kanzure | Suggested window environments? xfce? | 04:59 |
| Overand | I do like XFCE | 05:03 |
| Overand | ion and wmii are pretty interesting, if you're a maniac | 05:03 |
| kanzure_ | Hm. | 05:04 |
| Overand | Those are 'tiling window managers' | 05:04 |
| kanzure_ | I need something easily scriptable. | 05:04 |
| Overand | dude- wmii has a plan9 filesystem | 05:04 |
| kanzure_ | preferably with my beloved vertical taskbar | 05:04 |
| Overand | it's ABSURD | 05:04 |
| kanzure_ | but I could do without a taskbar if it is sufficiently scriptable | 05:04 |
| Overand | /proc and /sys are plan-9 inspired filesystems | 05:04 |
| Overand | so in wmii, it creates a directory structure that represents wmii itself | 05:05 |
| kanzure_ | hm | 05:05 |
| Overand | with directories for each section of the screen | 05:05 |
| Overand | that you can get info from, and tell to run apps, etc | 05:05 |
| Overand | but again - you have to be interested in using a tiling window manager | 05:05 |
| Overand | that's no small leap from standard window managers | 05:05 |
| kanzure_ | No overlapping windows? | 05:06 |
| Overand | it has support for them, in certain situations, i believe | 05:06 |
| Overand | i'm nto 100% sure | 05:06 |
| Overand | it's also very, very keyboard centric | 05:07 |
| kanzure_ | As it should be. | 05:07 |
| kanzure_ | I normally have 500 tabs open. I'm going to be doing this with 'windows'. | 05:07 |
| kanzure_ | so tiling might not be the best idea ;-) | 05:07 |
| Overand | yes | 05:08 |
| Overand | i often have 500 tabs too | 05:08 |
| Overand | but - windows? | 05:08 |
| kanzure_ | correct | 05:08 |
| Overand | (well - ok, about 150 tabs) | 05:08 |
| Overand | interesting - X11 on Win32? | 05:08 |
| kanzure_ | I'm getting rid of Opera in place of scripting konqueror or some other web browser | 05:08 |
| kanzure_ | what? | 05:08 |
| kanzure_ | I'm not on Win32. | 05:08 |
| Overand | misunderstanding of 'windows' in that context | 05:09 |
| kanzure_ | oh, yikes | 05:09 |
| kanzure_ | :) | 05:09 |
| kanzure_ | no | 05:09 |
| Overand | i still fail to understand | 05:09 |
| kanzure_ | http://heybryan.org/projects/browsehack/tabtabtab.html is an explanation | 05:10 |
| kanzure_ | http://awesome.naquadah.org/ looks interesting | 05:10 |
| kanzure_ | but Lua? hm.. | 05:10 |
| kanzure_ | "making awesome faster than any other window manager" | 05:11 |
| kanzure_ | even with lua | 05:11 |
| kanzure_ | huh | 05:11 |
| bkero | Behold! A TV worthy of my living room: http://www.woot.com/ | 05:11 |
| bkero | uh | 05:11 |
| bkero | ion uses lua too, which I used for a long time. lua blows | 05:11 |
| kanzure_ | heh | 05:11 |
| bkero | http://www.suckless.org/wmii/ | 05:11 |
| kanzure_ | I was using Lua in my MMORPG. | 05:12 |
| kanzure_ | Back in the day. | 05:12 |
| bkero | wmii is awesome but more awesome | 05:12 |
| kanzure_ | bkero: So have you used wmii, awesome, ratpoison, stumpwm, rio, or xmonad? | 05:13 |
| kanzure_ | These have been on my todo list for a while. | 05:14 |
| bkero | Run xmonad | 05:14 |
| bkero | Fucking haskell window managers | 05:14 |
| bkero | *ran | 05:14 |
| bkero | done ratpoison, wmii, and awesome | 05:14 |
| bkero | and ion3 :P | 05:14 |
| kanzure_ | That hardly makes sense. Why would you do a wm with Haskell? | 05:14 |
| bkero | Because you work in academia and have a hardon for such things. | 05:14 |
| bkero | I chose to stick with wmii after coming from ion3 because of the not crazy license/creator, and because I can script everything in bash and because window control/movement is done through alt+[hjkl], and window movement is alt+shift+[hjkl] | 05:15 |
| kanzure_ | Can it do window layering? | 05:16 |
| kanzure_ | i.e., can I open up 500 windows and have one on top? ;-) | 05:16 |
| bkero | Yes | 05:17 |
| bkero | There are 2 modes | 05:17 |
| bkero | One is regular mode where the column is split between windows | 05:18 |
| bkero | and one is called stacks, where you have multiple windows in 1 column, and use alt+[jk] to move between them | 05:18 |
| bkero | It also supports workspaces | 05:18 |
| bkero | Look on the first image of the page. In the upper-left quadrant, you see 2 bars there. | 05:19 |
| bkero | That's 2 windows in that one square :) | 05:19 |
| kanzure_ | Okay, I'll be trying out wmii then. | 05:20 |
| bkero | The status bar at the bottom is just a bash script. :) | 05:21 |
| fenn | heh a haskell window manager.. "open a set of all wikipedia pages, then display the one i'm interested in" | 05:21 |
| kanzure_ | steve tried introducing me to haskell | 05:22 |
| kanzure_ | I understood monads for about 2 minutes and thought it was interesting | 05:22 |
| kanzure_ | then I checked my mail. | 05:22 |
| kanzure_ | (and subsequently don't remember any of it) | 05:23 |
| fenn | sounds familiar | 05:23 |
| bkero | lolskell | 05:23 |
| fenn | i can't remember any lisp either, though i studied that for about a month | 05:23 |
| kanzure_ | right | 05:23 |
| kanzure_ | heh, whitespace really emphasizes the right way to learn a language | 05:24 |
| kanzure_ | you can't just stare at a lot of whitespace | 05:24 |
| fenn | 05:25 | |
| kanzure_ | nobody said it was a good messaging language | 05:25 |
| fenn | there's some programming language that's all tabs and spaces | 05:25 |
| kanzure_ | it's called whitespace | 05:25 |
| kanzure_ | bkero: don't say it | 05:26 |
| kanzure_ | "lolspace" | 05:26 |
| kanzure_ | I feel it coming. | 05:26 |
| fenn | lool | 05:26 |
| fenn | the virtual machine language of lolcode | 05:26 |
| bkero | lolspace | 05:28 |
| * kanzure_ punches bkero | 05:29 | |
| bkero | kanzure_: I'm a perl monkey, remember? | 05:29 |
| bkero | You can have whitespace if you want | 05:29 |
| bkero | But you don't really NEED it. | 05:29 |
| * kanzure_ is a perlmonk | 05:29 | |
| * bkero has traded stocks with perl before. :) | 05:29 | |
| bkero | lo\tl | 05:29 |
| fenn | well there's a half hour i'll never get back (reading about ion3's author) | 06:07 |
| bkero | Indeed | 06:24 |
| faceface | hi | 08:34 |
| nsh | hey faceface | 08:41 |
| nsh | how's the signal? | 08:41 |
| faceface | S/N? | 08:54 |
| nsh | as in, how's it going? | 08:54 |
| faceface | pretty good. pretty pretty good | 08:54 |
| nsh | signal being a metaphor for the general flow of information that consitutes the universe | 08:54 |
| nsh | cool, cool | 08:54 |
| faceface | I am totally into Ghost in the shell atm | 08:55 |
| faceface | OK. | 08:55 |
| nsh | yes, it seems to happen to a lot of people | 08:55 |
| faceface | well... another day on the farm | 08:55 |
| nsh | i believe it's a genetic suseptability | 08:55 |
| * nsh tried to watch it once, actually | 08:55 | |
| nsh | but got distracted or something | 08:55 |
| nsh | dunno, should give it another go | 08:55 |
| faceface | btw, I heard about 'meat on a stick' on the radio yesterday... its creaping inot the consicousness | 08:55 |
| faceface | nsh, try the series (season 2) over the first movie | 08:55 |
| nsh | meat on a stick, eh? | 08:56 |
| faceface | and drop the second movie entirly | 08:56 |
| nsh | like, kebab? | 08:56 |
| faceface | yeah... I really want to push my business idea of 'celebrity on a stick' | 08:56 |
| faceface | nsh, its something kanzure is interested in | 08:56 |
| nsh | haha | 08:56 |
| faceface | 'artificial meat' | 08:56 |
| nsh | kanzure is interested in artificial everything | 08:56 |
| faceface | you can grow a bunch of chicken flesh in a factory | 08:56 |
| faceface | true... | 08:56 |
| nsh | the guy would construct vacuum if it was remotely possible | 08:57 |
| faceface | but meat on a stick has a 1 million dollar prize... | 08:57 |
| nsh | what?! | 08:57 |
| nsh | i could spend a million dollars! | 08:57 |
| faceface | ... I forget the details.... | 08:57 |
| nsh | by brunch | 08:57 |
| nsh | oh | 08:57 |
| nsh | it's from PETA | 08:57 |
| nsh | hrmm | 08:57 |
| nsh | do i take money from retards | 08:57 |
| nsh | yes, because then they'll have less money | 08:57 |
| nsh | how do PETA have a million dollars anyway!? | 08:57 |
| faceface | if you've got the meat! | 08:58 |
| faceface | they got the money | 08:58 |
| faceface | l8r | 08:58 |
| nsh | this doesn't seem particularly difficult | 08:58 |
| nsh | i bet they'd be dodgy about stem cells though | 08:58 |
| faceface | in any case, wait till you taste my 'beckam burger' | 08:58 |
| faceface | you'll be 'bending it' in no time! | 08:59 |
| nsh | http://instantrimshot.com/ | 08:59 |
| faceface | (cloned artifical meat that is) | 08:59 |
| * nsh smiles | 08:59 | |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Meat_on_a_stick | 15:07 |
| kanzure | Electroanalytical properties of a novel biosensor modified with zirconium alcoxide porous gels for the detection of acetaminophen http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/science?_ob=GatewayURL&_method=citationSearch&_urlVersion=4&_origin=SDTOPALERTHTML&_version=1&_uoikey=B6TGX-4T8SM0S-1&md5=ccdb2b0321bf976e78326df402749b94 | 15:10 |
| kanzure | In-vitro Tomography and Non-Destructive Imaging at Depth of Pharmaceutical Solid Dosage Forms http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/science?_ob=GatewayURL&_method=citationSearch&_urlVersion=4&_origin=SDTOPALERTHTML&_version=1&_uoikey=B6T6C-4T8HHCP-1&md5=7fe40043c9a9f6632c9d2d3a6f695ea4 | 15:10 |
| kanzure | Fluorescence in situ hybridization to monitor the intracellular location and accessibility of plasmid DNA delivered by cationic polymer-based gene carriers http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/science?_ob=GatewayURL&_method=citationSearch&_urlVersion=4&_origin=SDTOPALERTHTML&_version=1&_uoikey=B6T6C-4T8JXC7-1&md5=58148724c6dab2451a891c704b0b91c0 | 15:10 |
| kanzure | http://enews.thomasnet.com/ct.jsp?uz3763235Biz7187255 Optocouplers feature isolation voltage of 3,750 Vrms. ' Including 11 halogen-free, Pb-free, and RoHS-compliant devices, EL3H7-G series 4-pin SSOP phototransistor optocouplers offer operating temperature range of -55 to 110°C, multiple current-transfer-ratio bins, and breakdown voltage of 80 V. Available in 2 mm package with 1.27 mm lead pitch, units have 5 mm creepage distance, and are suited for | 15:12 |
| kanzure | What? | 15:12 |
| faceface | neuo stimulation? | 15:13 |
| kanzure | hm? | 15:28 |
| nsh | wtf | 17:09 |
| nsh | is a creepage distance?! | 17:09 |
| fenn | The creepage distance is defined as the shortest distance along the surface of the insulation material between two conductive parts | 17:13 |
| kanzure | university course scheduling sucks | 17:54 |
| kanzure | why isn't there a builtin optimizer | 17:54 |
| kanzure | are these people fucking insane? | 17:54 |
| kanzure | http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=474816 | 18:00 |
| kanzure | the perlmonks recommend a granularity limit of ~5 minutes and then using that as a scaffold | 18:23 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_Links | 18:24 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exact_cover | 18:24 |
| kanzure | each calendar event is given a unique ID number and it containts its description, name, time, location, and other rules; | 18:24 |
| kanzure | then, neighboring events could be put into a (linked?) list, | 18:25 |
| kanzure | and a binary sort could be done based on time | 18:25 |
| kanzure | erm | 18:25 |
| kanzure | (of course, ultimately, everybody else is the one who is wrong for using this silly time-oriented system to begin with .. if the classes were online, then time wouldn't be the issue ... ) | 18:27 |
| kanzure | http://web.gccaz.edu/~medgar/ | 18:37 |
| kanzure | has some software that supposedly does it | 20:03 |
| kanzure | perl crawler + java solver | 20:03 |
| kanzure | crawled Arizona's output, I guess | 20:03 |
| kanzure | 'The generation game: A manganese-oxo complex with a cubic {Mn4O4}7+ core catalyzes the electrooxidation of water when suspended within the aqueous channels of a Nafion membrane (see picture). Illumination with visible light under an applied potential of 1.0 V (vs Ag/AgCl) generates current over one thousand turnovers. The catalytically active species arises from photolysis and subsequent dissociation of the manganese complex.' | 20:25 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/Sustained%20Water%20Oxidation%20Photocatalysis%20by%20a%20Bioinspired%20Manganese%20Cluster%20(p%20NA).pdf | 20:27 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/2008-08-25#Scientists_learn_from_nature_to_split_water | 20:28 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Myostatin_DBZ_project | 20:49 |
| kanzure | kidding | 20:49 |
| kanzure | :p | 20:49 |
| bkero | kanzure: How are you enjoying wmii? | 21:56 |
| kanzure | Haven't installed it yet. ;-) | 21:56 |
| bkero | apt-get install wmii | 21:56 |
| kanzure | Nah, I can't afford to logoff this session at the moment. | 21:56 |
| kanzure | I was going to do that for another machine. | 21:57 |
| kanzure | which doesn't have a connection while I'm on | 21:57 |
| kanzure | Anyway, | 21:57 |
| kanzure | I've been busy optimizing my university schedule | 21:57 |
| kanzure | by hand | 21:57 |
| kanzure | "optimizing" but not really | 21:57 |
| kanzure | since everything's full .. | 21:57 |
| kanzure | is it normal to feel a hatred for "counselors" and "academic advisors" that don't actually do what they should be doing? | 21:57 |
| bkero | There's an application I've found that lets you detach from X and reattach | 21:59 |
| bkero | Like screen for x windows | 21:59 |
| kanzure | interesting | 21:59 |
| kanzure | name? | 22:00 |
| kanzure | of course, there should be a full state suspension mechanism but strangely there's not ;-) | 22:00 |
| fenn | bkero: xmove? | 22:03 |
| bkero | xmove is really 1996 | 22:04 |
| bkero | Lemme find it | 22:04 |
| fenn | i'd settle for 1996 if it did what it's supposed to | 22:04 |
| bkero | It did what it was supposed to in 1996 | 22:05 |
| bkero | Doesn't do very well anymore. | 22:05 |
| bkero | http://partiwm.org/wiki/xpra | 22:05 |
| fenn | pyrex :) | 22:15 |
| bkero | pyrex indeed | 23:06 |
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