2008-09-16.log

--- Day changed Tue Sep 16 2008
ybithttp://www.nature.com/ncb/journal/v10/n9/pdf/ncb0908-1015.pdf00:01
kanzureHm, why is it also not loading from the server?00:03
kanzureybit: I'll figure it out eventually.00:06
ybitthanks, and no problem if you can't, i will simply have to wait around 10 days for snail mail to deliver00:08
kanzure"Cure cancer? Has the hospital got out of the business of curing patients?" good stuff00:12
kanzurehttp://theladderes.com/ job business search site only for $100k+ job seekers :-p00:15
kanzurehaha00:15
kanzurewouldn't everybody go there?00:15
kanzurehttp://theladders.com/00:16
bkeroHospitals are businesses :(00:29
kanzureSo, catching some of the 'terminator' series on television shows that they have the little morphobots thingies running around impersonating people in corporations, 01:00
kanzurebut I'm pretty sure you don't have to pretend to be somebody else01:00
kanzureit's not like they have rules against being employed twice in a company01:00
kanzuredouble shifts ,for instance01:00
kanzure'Wawrousek, Westbrook, and Grattidge (1989) published an extensive listing and description of 1250 data sources on engineering materials'01:04
bkeroI'm an engineering material01:16
kanzurerawr01:35
kanzurehttp://www.mathub.com/ computer-aided nanodesign ("CAN")01:42
kanzureCAN not .. 01:42
kanzurejust wait till can too01:42
kanzureMaybe the Japanese are more tech-savvy in this area.01:51
ybithttp://ctma.ncms.org/Templates/activeprojects.htm01:57
kanzurehttps://inaba.nims.go.jp/netnavi/link_F0831.htm01:59
kanzureJapan rocks01:59
kanzureHm.01:59
kanzuresynthetic instrumentation?02:00
kanzurere: ybit's link, that is.02:00
kanzurehahaha02:01
kanzurehttps://tsuge.nims.go.jp/02:01
kanzure'We have been publishing data sheets. These Data Sheets were converted to PDF documents. You can see these PDF on The Internet.  Would you understand the following contents, please ?02:01
kanzureIt is our policy in NIMS that we do not have permit to print and download. 02:01
kanzureEven if you download PDF files, you can't open the data sheets downloaded. 02:01
kanzureIf you would like a printed version of a data sheet, please click to see this page.'02:01
kanzurelike I said, Japan rocks.02:02
ybithttp://ctmaideas.ncms.org/ideas/project_select.asp02:06
kanzureDoes this work for anyone? http://www.srim.com.cn/02:07
kanzureah, sorry, was a slow flash loader02:07
kanzureybit: where's this coming from / why?02:08
willPow3rhttp://tinyurl.com/5sb29l02:13
kanzurewillPow3r: you should try the pidgin rickroll detector plugin02:18
willPow3ru use irc on pidgin?02:18
willPow3ri figured xchat would have one02:19
bkerokanzure: link?02:21
willPow3ri figured the virus was in decline anyway02:21
willPow3ri'm sure it just polls the rickrolldb for the url02:21
kanzurebkero: You called my bluff?02:22
kanzureIt was a big guess on my part.02:23
kanzureNobody in here uses tinyurl without context.02:23
kanzuretinyurl is a dangerous thing02:23
kanzure"For example, the Shanghai Institute of Microsystems and Information Technology has build an intelligent database used to  assistant material design. It is based on a materials database and combines image processing, pattern recognition, artificial neural networks, and design-making optimization."02:24
kanzurehttp://www.sim.ac.cn/Eng/index.html Shanghai Institute of Microsystems and Information Technology02:24
ybitit's coming from ncms.org02:25
ybitthought it was interesting so i pasted02:25
kanzureyes, but why did you find it02:25
ybiti think it was linked from your school actually02:25
ybitcan't a guy browse without being asked why!? ;)02:26
kanzureI suppose :)02:26
kanzurejust curious02:27
kanzureand that sim.ac.cn site mentions nothing about that "intelligent database"02:27
kanzurewtf?02:27
* ybit was away when you posted that02:27
ybitsrim.com.cn works for me02:28
kanzure'  Pilot Project of Knowledge Innovation Program (PPKIP)'02:28
kanzureybit: the 'english 'clicky didn't for me, so if you could snoop around for that citation or something02:28
kanzurethat'd be awesome02:28
kanzure' , State Key Laboratory of Functional Materials for Informati'02:29
kanzureWhere's my resident chinese guy?02:29
kanzuredo we have a chinese guy in here?02:29
willPow3rmy gf is chinese02:29
kanzurefluent?02:30
willPow3rin mandarin02:30
kanzureexcellent02:30
kanzureNot that it matters right now.02:30
ybitjoin #mandarin02:30
ybitbut the english site works fine02:30
ybityou're looking for ppkip?02:31
kanzureI'm not entirely sure what it's going to be under02:31
willPow3r;)02:31
kanzureybit: two different sites mind you02:31
willPow3rwrong window.02:31
kanzureI think ppkip might be more relevant02:31
ybitah02:32
ybitfivesheep is fluent in mandarin02:34
kanzureI'm just toying around with the fellow.02:34
ybitheh, i hope the joke isn't lost in translation02:35
kanzurehttp://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/johokanri/44/10/701/_pdf                               China National Innovation System Construction with the Chinese Academy of Science02:35
ybithmm, may want to try #japanese :)02:40
kanzurehjkjkdjf;lkdjfakaljqreuqoipfujqafckdalscjkadls;i02:52
kanzurego forth and steal from the chinese02:52
kanzureor else02:53
kanzurewhy is it so hard to find this information? It sounds like a rather important project, but Google Scholar knows nothing about it02:53
kanzurethe daates seem to be from around 200302:53
kanzuretime to make an international call, what time is it over there?02:54
willPow3rthere's an adblock plus filter for rickroll urls03:00
willPow3rlocated at rickrolldb.com03:01
ybitjust got back03:03
ybitit's 11:01am in hong kong presently03:03
ybitprimetime to call :)03:04
ybittwinkle + voipdiscount 03:04
ybitvoipdiscount has free long distance03:04
willPow3rheh  church of scientology's headquarters is in hemet, CA03:19
willPow3rthats like, an hour from san diego03:19
kanzurehttp://www.matguide.com/ <-- No Engrish?03:20
kanzurewillPow3r: the Church of Scientiology is living on the same block as me.03:21
kanzureIt's eery.03:21
kanzureNot to mention the other 10 churches.03:21
willPow3rhttp://www.matguide.com.cn/Index.aspx?L_ID=203:22
willPow3ryou have to go to the chinese site, then click english03:22
willPow3ri didn't think scientology was bad. isn't it based on dianetics?03:23
proctodianetics and aliens, yeah03:28
kanzureD:\Site_Collect\multidms_guide\multidms\Default.aspx03:29
kanzurestupid ASP parse errors03:29
willPow3rgreat url03:29
kanzuresomebody should hit them upside the head03:29
kanzurewillPow3r: No, it appears after trying to register.03:29
willPow3rfor matguide?03:30
kanzureyes03:31
willPow3rkanzure: did you put the correct cd in before registering?03:40
kanzurethe what?03:41
kanzurehead explodes03:41
willPow3ryou have to put the matguide registration CD in the D: drive before you register.03:42
kanzureI told you, it's an ASP error03:42
kanzureit's telling you the file location on their server03:42
willPow3rhttp://www.forumammo.com/cpg/displayimage.php?pos=-1734005:13
kanzurematweb works :)19:03
kanzureon Windows at least19:03
kanzure'In a nondescript office park in the northeast side of Menlo Park, CA, the next genomics revolution may be taking place. There, 12 prototypes of a new sequencing machine developed by startup Pacific Biosciences are churning out reams of DNA sequence as fast as built-in cameras can record it. The deep freezer-size boxes, covered for the time being in red plastic sheeting, are performing a novel feat: reading single strands of DNA in real time. The mach19:11
kanzureany guesses on the method?19:11
kanzure'Pacific Biosciences' central innovation is a small chip composed of a 100-nanometer-thick metal film deposited on a silicon-dioxide substrate and dotted with thousands of tiny wells, each only tens of nanometers in diameter. Before sequencing begins, an enzyme called DNA polymerase is immobilized at the bottom of the well, along with the strand of DNA to be read. Fluorescently labeled bases--each of the four DNA letters labeled with a different marke19:11
kanzureoh19:11
kanzurepolysequencing19:12
kanzure'Despite its early success, it's not yet clear whether the company's innovative approach will surpass "next generation" sequencing technologies already in use. Pacific Biosciences plans to release a commercial product in 2010 and will announce the target sequencing capacity for that machine early next year. New types of sequencing machines, such as those developed by Roche Applied Sciences and Illumina, have already revolutionized genomics, allowing s19:12
kanzure' This is Jack Hitt, a writer with the New York Times Magazine. I am starting to research synthetic biology and ran across your site. You said to write before calling, so I'm emailing to see if we could talk sometime. (I did just try your 512 phone as well.) I am just getting going on this so I am mainly looking to talk about synthetic biology in pretty broad stokes for now, trying to figure out the smartest way to tell the story of the work that's go19:15
kanzurejads;fkljasdklfj;klDfjkladdk19:15
kanzurewas in class ..19:15
kanzureWell that went well.20:06
kanzurehttp://www.physorg.com/news140787110.html graphene stuff20:11
kanzurehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Hitt20:43
kanzureOh crap, he has a Wikipedia page.20:43
kanzureHey Nofaris.21:09
NofarisHello kanzure21:10
NofarisWhat are you up to?21:10
kanzurehttp://mersenne.org21:10
kanzureNofaris: Writing an email to the NY Times Magazine guy that just got off the  phone with me ..21:10
Nofaristopic?21:11
kanzureSynthetic biology.21:11
Nofariselaborate21:12
kanzureGeneral theme-seeking for nonacademic communities involved in synthetic biology.21:13
bkerokanzure: Are you going to be quoted in the NY times?21:29
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kanzurebkero: Quite possibly. 21:37
bkerokanzure: A+ work then, sir.21:37
kanzurebkero: I kick ass.21:37
kanzureI go to school, slack off on "converting yer inches to moles", fall assbackwards into awesome lab positions, get free internets, and get in the NY Times. haha :-p A while back I was also nearly on New Scientist, but they wanted a high school student physically building something with Results.21:38
bkeroScience is pretty 8)21:39
* kanzure feels like Kramer.21:39
kanzureAnyway, he wants a list of things he should do so that he doesn't look like an ass as an author, stuff to do or read about before he writes.21:39
bkeroAre you going to recommend giant tomes of biology?21:40
kanzureNo, I was going to introduce him to the p2pfoundation.net people and see if I can't get some thematic continuation into him. 21:41
kanzureAlso trying to stress the 'technical backbone' stuff but unfortunately it doesn't entirely, uh, exist :)21:41
* kanzure needs to code21:41
kanzurehttp://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/taleb08/taleb08_index.html22:05
kanzurehttp://network.nature.com/groups/bpcc/forum/topics/2974 blood flow v. neural activation studies of 'perceptions'22:11
kanzureMaier A, Wilke M, Aura C, Zhu C, Ye FQ, Leopold DA.  Nat Neurosci. 2008 Aug 24. [Epub ahead of print], Divergence of fMRI and neural signals in V1 during perceptual suppression in the awake monkey.22:11
kanzureargh .. ran into another one22:15
kanzuresomebody got a PhD off of making a Microsoft Access database of 10 different material property variables22:15
kanzurein 2003.22:16
kanzureThat's just outright inexecusable.22:16
bkeroHardness, color, density...22:16
bkerolol22:16
kanzureyeah ..22:16
bkeroWhereever you look, people are pretty pathetic.22:17
kanzurebut why can't I be pathetic?22:17
kanzureand get master's and phd's for it?22:17
bkeroYou could, but those are useless degrees then.22:17
kanzureNot if you're looking for quick, high-paying employment.22:18
kanzurei.e., infiltrate a few companies :p22:18
bkeroSure, if that's your goal.22:18
bkeroI'm in a field where I don't even need a degree to do that.22:19
kanzurebkero: There's no reason for me to get a degree, really, other than to go pirating from the companies.22:19
kanzureI don't need a piece of paper to tell me that everyone else sucks.22:19
kanzureunless that paper is phdcomics or something, but whatever22:19
bkeroYou need a piece of paper to get past companies HR departments.22:19
kanzureYep.22:20
bkeroIs 35 4-credit classes too much to consider switching majors?22:21
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kanzurebkero: Why do you want to switch majors?22:22
kanzureI know you're interested in bioinformatics, but that's not my question.22:22
bkerokanzure: The area interests me, and to get a job in that field.  I've already been a sysadmin for over 6 years.22:23
bkeroand because I absolutely hate corporate culture22:24
ybitbkero: what are you currently majoring in?22:31
bkeroybit: BS in CS and MBA22:32
ybitand you want to switch to bioinformatics?22:32
bkeroConsidering22:32
ybitcouldn't you take a few bio courses and then get a master's in bioinf?22:32
bkerohttp://catalog.oregonstate.edu/MajorDetail.aspx?major=113&college=0122:33
kanzureEw, aspx.22:37
bkeroYea22:37
bkeroWe haven't hit that part of campus yet.22:37
bkeroI've taken the bacc core classes, and the math, but none of the Biology, Bioresource, Chemistry, or Physics.22:38
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kanzureI don't know what I should tell this guy for his todo list really.23:17

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