| --- Day changed Thu Sep 18 2008 | ||
| kanzure | hm .. some people getting smart, just saw a paper on bioreactor design via CFD tools | 00:13 |
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| ybit | link? | 00:14 |
| ybit | -wikipapers ;) | 00:14 |
| kanzure | hit me with a brick in about 10 minutes, I'm saving a few papers at the moment | 00:14 |
| ybit | actually, that's not a bad idea | 00:14 |
| kanzure | and then I'll rsync with the server | 00:14 |
| kanzure | ybit: what's not a bad idea? | 00:14 |
| ybit | wikipapers | 00:14 |
| ybit | i'm sure some people already collaborate through a wiki on papers | 00:15 |
| ybit | or atleast something similar | 00:15 |
| kanzure | WikiCFP is for Calls for Papers | 00:15 |
| kanzure | last time I checked it wasn't extensively used .. I don't have time to dump all of the CFPs that I get into the wiki | 00:15 |
| ybit | gracias se?or | 00:15 |
| kanzure | I mean, theoretically it would be great if people actually used it | 00:15 |
| kanzure | but alas | 00:15 |
| kanzure | one solution might be to suggest to them to have an 'incoming' page | 00:16 |
| kanzure | where people just autodump stuff | 00:16 |
| kanzure | and let it come through in any medium - forwarded emails to cfp@wikicfp.org or whatever, or through IM, or however, and then let volunteers formalize the information | 00:16 |
| kanzure | and properly tag it and whatever | 00:16 |
| ybit | hmm | 00:19 |
| * ybit searches for instruction on what to do with the ngc6940 images... | 00:20 | |
| kanzure | sounds like a weird format | 00:20 |
| kanzure | astronomy? | 00:20 |
| ybit | yeah | 00:20 |
| ybit | i had instructions written down somewhere... | 00:23 |
| kanzure | nuclear galaxy cluster = ngc ? | 00:23 |
| kanzure | Just trying to guess. | 00:23 |
| ybit | find them better not take as long as it took you to find your quad core :P | 00:23 |
| kanzure | oh crap | 00:23 |
| kanzure | I just realized I did something very stupid | 00:23 |
| ybit | ? | 00:23 |
| kanzure | in the building brains class today, the professor went over the 'perceptron' model | 00:23 |
| kanzure | which is this simple adjustable weight summation technique | 00:24 |
| kanzure | with basically a single loop or something | 00:24 |
| kanzure | anyway, in the last few minutes of class I wrote some code on my paper | 00:24 |
| kanzure | and then typed it up on to the class discussion board | 00:24 |
| kanzure | well, one of the projects for the class is to make a software project | 00:24 |
| kanzure | I think I just undermined that whole idea | 00:24 |
| kanzure | crap :p | 00:24 |
| ybit | haha | 00:25 |
| kanzure | join #diybio | 00:26 |
| ybit | oh yeah, so ngc stands for "new galactic catalog" | 00:26 |
| kanzure | bah, I should have known that | 00:28 |
| kanzure | I remember looking up star charts at one point or something | 00:28 |
| kanzure | since they make no sense to me | 00:28 |
| * kanzure points out that the planet is moving through the galaxy too .. not just around the sun. | 00:28 | |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratory_Information_Management_System | 00:30 |
| kanzure | 'In fact, with the advent of SOA and other Web 2.0 technologies, today's (2007) LIMS is being defined as a complete ERP for the laboratory, no longer restricted to sample monitoring and results entry. Although it can be client-server or PC-based, it is increasingly web browser-based and provides a large assortment of functionality.' | 00:30 |
| kanzure | hrm, why did they have to call it LIMS though | 00:31 |
| kanzure | it's not information management, it's instrumentation and engineering | 00:31 |
| kanzure | Pidgin crash. | 00:36 |
| kanzure | Large-scale bioreactor design - there's something called a stir-tank where you do about 4000 rpm and stir the hell out of the algae/bacteria | 00:41 |
| kanzure | there's a type of bioreactor that's the open-kind, the obvious sort | 00:41 |
| kanzure | so what about the hydroelectricityy generators below dams? | 00:41 |
| kanzure | *hydroelectricity | 00:41 |
| ybit | i guess you read the "EROI below five critical" email as well :) | 00:54 |
| ybit | the article i asked about the other day should be in my email box any day now | 00:55 |
| kanzure | ybit: EROI below five critical email? | 01:00 |
| kanzure | huh? | 01:00 |
| kanzure | http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/71003145/abstract 'Inverse metabolic engineering: A strategy for directed genetic engineering of useful phenotypes' | 01:00 |
| kanzure | wtf, do these guys understand what they claim to have? | 01:00 |
| ybit | EROI is from the [tt] mailing | 01:02 |
| ybit | list | 01:02 |
| kanzure | crap | 01:06 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/bioreactor/ <-- New papers uploaded. I had some more stuff on my terabyte array that I neglected to upload. | 01:42 |
| kanzure | Hey cis-action. | 01:58 |
| kanzure | todo - somebody remind me to go back through the /~bbishop/docs/bioreactor/ papers that I added earlier tonight and throw up commentary on the bioreactors page on the wiki | 02:29 |
| * kanzure has some integrals to conquer. | 02:29 | |
| ybit | so it's been about 10 minutes :P, kanzure, have you had time to find the paper on bioreactor design via CFD tools? | 02:47 |
| kanzure | yes | 02:47 |
| kanzure | it's in the directory now | 02:47 |
| ybit | k | 02:48 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/bioreactor/General%20hybrid%20multizonal-CFD%20approach%20for%20bioreactor%20modeling.pdf | 02:49 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/bioreactor/Using%20computational%20fluid%20dynamics%20software%20(OpenFOAM%20maybe)%20to%20estimate%20circulation%20time%20distributions%20in%20bioreactors.pdf | 02:50 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/bioreactor/Dynamic%20simulation%20of%20bioreactor%20systems%20using%20orthogonal%20collocation%20on%20finite%20elements.pdf (FEM) | 02:50 |
| ybit | decent time waster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO9oseiCTdk&NR=1 | 03:10 |
| kanzure | description? | 03:11 |
| kanzure | besides decent time waster :) | 03:11 |
| ybit | heh, it's a robot fish | 03:13 |
| ende | don't trust it | 03:13 |
| ybit | think i have seen such a thing before | 03:14 |
| ende | it's just a matter of time before they make landfall and start taking over our cities | 03:14 |
| ybit | i'm really digging the transformer and hexapod robot vids | 03:14 |
| ybit | the hexapod + cnc was was kind of a eureka moment | 03:15 |
| kanzure | Woah, you've been missing out on hexapods? | 03:15 |
| ybit | yeah | 03:15 |
| kanzure | yes, now imagine car + cnc | 03:15 |
| ybit | car + cnc? :P | 03:15 |
| ybit | hmm, you'll have to explain that one fine sir | 03:15 |
| kanzure | drive car | 03:16 |
| kanzure | drill. | 03:16 |
| ybit | hmm... i would say transformer with huge jet pack + cnc would beat the car any day | 03:16 |
| ybit | :) | 03:16 |
| kanzure | uh? | 03:17 |
| kanzure | people don't have hexapods, they have cars | 03:17 |
| ybit | but people could ride a transformer in science fiction | 03:17 |
| ybit | can* | 03:17 |
| ybit | -a | 03:17 |
| ybit | grr, it's late | 03:17 |
| ybit | or even drive them | 03:18 |
| kanzure | http://sourceforge.net/projects/diyg/ | 03:19 |
| kanzure | "do it yourself genomics" | 03:19 |
| ybit | anyway, somewhere, someone mentioned adding an extruder to the cnc hexapod so that it could build objects larger than itself. on that same page was a mention of a swarm of these, and that was interesting idea | 03:19 |
| kanzure | ende: have you heard of the $0 genomics project? | 03:19 |
| ende | nope | 03:19 |
| kanzure | http://personalgenomics.org/ | 03:20 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/$0_genomics_project | 03:20 |
| kanzure | hm | 03:20 |
| kanzure | bad link | 03:20 |
| kanzure | http://genomics.org/ | 03:20 |
| kanzure | there we go | 03:20 |
| kanzure | http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=$0+genomics+project&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 | 03:21 |
| kanzure | all of those results are relevant | 03:21 |
| ende | ur familiar with 23andme? | 03:21 |
| kanzure | of course | 03:21 |
| ende | SNPedia? | 03:21 |
| kanzure | decodeme gives you the output file :) | 03:21 |
| kanzure | yes | 03:21 |
| ende | friend of mine runs the later | 03:21 |
| kanzure | Dan Bolser works on SNPedia | 03:21 |
| kanzure | he comes in here as faceface | 03:21 |
| ende | hm | 03:21 |
| kanzure | hangs out in #bioinformatics mostly | 03:22 |
| ende | wonder if my guy knows him | 03:22 |
| ende | I mean, he should | 03:22 |
| kanzure | who's your guy? | 03:22 |
| ende | cariaso | 03:22 |
| kanzure | doesn't ring a bell :) | 03:22 |
| kanzure | my guy has guys that knows your guys? cool | 03:22 |
| kanzure | :-p | 03:22 |
| ende | I know he's at least cofounder | 03:23 |
| kanzure | Small world. | 03:23 |
| kanzure | ende: One of the decodeme SNP data sets on SNPedia is Jong Bhak's. Jong and Dan work together all the time. | 03:28 |
| kanzure | Jong runs Korea's government/top-level bioinformatics program. | 03:28 |
| ende | ah | 03:28 |
| bkero | http://feeds.boingboing.net/~r/boingboing/iBag/~3/395499555/diy-biohacking-in-th.html | 06:43 |
| kanzure | bkero: Boston Globe? | 06:43 |
| kanzure | yeah, it was on diybio.org's mailing list today | 06:43 |
| kanzure | also see #diybio | 06:43 |
| kanzure | and go poke that maradydd person, she's an ex IDT employee doing some bacterial cultures in her home | 06:44 |
| willPow3r_ | why in the hell does "peer" insist on resetting my connection | 09:17 |
| -!- willPow3r_ is now known as willPow3r | 09:18 | |
| bkero | kanzure: fix aging | 09:21 |
| kanzure | bkero: Go talk to Aubrey. | 11:50 |
| kanzure | Oh, btw, Aubrey is looking for new students. | 11:50 |
| kanzure | I completely forgot to send off my resume his way | 11:50 |
| kanzure | up 9 days :) | 11:59 |
| kanzure | Neat. | 11:59 |
| bkero | kanzure_: don't think I have the qualifications | 17:07 |
| bkero | kanzure_: In aubrey's case I'd say he's trolling for new students. :P | 17:21 |
| willPow3r | he's trying to spread his legacy, kanzure_ | 19:19 |
| willPow3r | fresh minds | 19:21 |
| willPow3r | he feeds off of them | 19:22 |
| bkero | willPow3r: Are you saying Aubrey is a vampire? | 19:33 |
| willPow3r | no, zombie | 19:33 |
| bkero | Haha | 19:33 |
| willPow3r | but a transzombie | 19:33 |
| willPow3r | so like zombie+ | 19:33 |
| willPow3r | or z+ | 19:35 |
| kanzure | http://www.deviceguru.com/2008/09/17/stanford-frees-cs-robotics-courses/ | 21:25 |
| kanzure | "Lets distinguish between the two major goals of AGI. The first is to automate the economy. The second is to become immortal through uploading." | 21:26 |
| kanzure | god I hate this mailing list | 21:26 |
| kanzure | but it's like a soap opera | 21:26 |
| kanzure | "Anyone who runs around claiming that Disney has "enslaved some poor sentient AGI life forms and is making them lead abysmal lifestyles as glorified circus clowns for the entertainment of children" will be perceived as plain-old-nuts; any attempted lawsuit on such grounds would get instantly thrown out." | 21:35 |
| kanzure | Heh. | 21:36 |
| ybit | oi, what's new? | 22:42 |
| faceface | what should I call my blog | 22:48 |
| faceface | BIoBlog? | 22:48 |
| faceface | Sitting on the Blog? | 22:49 |
| faceface | this is not the title of my blog? | 22:49 |
| willPow3r | how about something not so 'bloggy' | 22:50 |
| faceface | hmm... but I was just thinking 'blogblog' | 22:50 |
| faceface | the long hard blog | 22:50 |
| willPow3r | i mean, even sarah palin has a blog. that kind of ruins it | 22:50 |
| faceface | heheh | 22:50 |
| faceface | willPow3r, what do you suggest? | 22:50 |
| faceface | some kind of ... hyper ... feed? | 22:50 |
| faceface | what are the kids doing? | 22:51 |
| willPow3r | the rage these days seems to be... | 22:51 |
| faceface | OK, I'm gonna call it 'destination space' | 22:51 |
| faceface | destination unknown | 22:51 |
| willPow3r | how about "inner vortex" | 22:51 |
| faceface | hmm... its a-bit "hey I'm a teanager!" | 22:52 |
| faceface | ;-) | 22:52 |
| willPow3r | how old are you? | 22:52 |
| faceface | 30 | 22:52 |
| willPow3r | hmm | 22:52 |
| willPow3r | soo old. | 22:52 |
| faceface | yeah... its weird | 22:52 |
| faceface | I'm like... 1/3 dead! | 22:52 |
| willPow3r | i'm closer to 30 than 17, so i really couldnt say | 22:53 |
| faceface | Basically I want to publicise a bunch of lunatic ideas and see what happens | 22:53 |
| willPow3r | lunatic fringe? | 22:54 |
| faceface | not really... like morawits (sp) and his 'ideas that push the limit of what we can imagine to prompt a discussion' type thing | 22:55 |
| faceface | only I am looking at cloning, gm etc. | 22:55 |
| faceface | http://bioblog5000.blogspot.com/ | 22:56 |
| faceface | I am curious if people who know my email address are gonna get 'pinged' through their lurk-sites when I post. | 22:57 |
| faceface | night all | 22:57 |
| willPow3r | night | 22:57 |
| kanzure | Can somebody go fetch the #diybio person? | 23:07 |
| kanzure | faceface needs to stick around longer | 23:08 |
| kanzure | Human powered vehicles: http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/whpsc2008/resultswednesday.htm | 23:09 |
| kanzure | Not that I care that much. Don't click. | 23:09 |
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