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| kanzure | "Buffon opened his treatise by considering a simple question: why will a human being purchase a lottery ticket when the chances of them dying in the next 24 hours are greater than the chances that they will win?" | 00:05 |
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| fenn | hope springs eternal | 00:49 |
| fenn | 17:09 < anonimasu_> you know what I hate? | 00:49 |
| fenn | 17:09 < anonimasu_> not having a engineering degree. | 00:49 |
| fenn | 17:09 < anonimasu_> there are all theese nice papers on everything on IEEEE.. | 00:49 |
| fenn | 17:10 < anonimasu_> like if you google for how to mount lasers to sharks there's a paper about it.. | 00:49 |
| fenn | 17:10 < anonimasu_> and you cant be member of IEEEE, unless you are a engineer or at a institution.. | 00:50 |
| kanzure | where is anonimasu? ##electronics ? | 00:53 |
| fenn | #emc | 00:53 |
| kanzure | I've talked with him before I think | 00:53 |
| kanzure | ah | 00:53 |
| fenn | prolly asleep now | 00:53 |
| kanzure | fuck | 00:53 |
| fenn | just thought it was funny - he was searching for air bearing info | 00:54 |
| fenn | and the papers are all on ieee | 00:54 |
| * fenn goes to bedsky | 00:56 | |
| kanzure | my grandfather, the one with the massive brain, was named belsky | 00:58 |
| kanzure_ | great grandfather | 01:20 |
| kanzure | *cough* | 01:56 |
| kanzure | Victor Deeb is appearing at nubtalks in boston | 01:56 |
| kanzure | who are our boston people in here? | 01:56 |
| kanzure | http://crossintotheabyss.org/about4.htm hm | 02:02 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/school/Chemistry/2008-10-02.png <- What the hell syntax is this? Commas? | 03:04 |
| kanzure | mysql db is up | 04:26 |
| ybit | "Auction of Over 50 Major Semiconductor Fabrication Tools & Support Equipment" | 04:58 |
| ybit | http://www.go-dove.com/auctions/AuctionDetail.asp?auctionID=11912 | 04:58 |
| kanzure | hrm | 04:58 |
| * ybit gets some sleep | 04:58 | |
| kanzure | sleep is for the weak! etc | 04:58 |
| kanzure | (8) Applied Materials P5000 CVD's (2) Novellus Concept II CVD's (7) Kokusai Vertron III LPCVD furnaces Kokusai CX9620 Diffusion Furnace Mattson 4100 Rapid Thermal Processor LAM 4728 Dry Etcher (2) Thermawave 2600 Film Thickness Measurement Systems KLA/Tencor 2132 Wafer Defect Inspection Tool KLA/Tencor AIT Patterned Surface Wafer Defect Inspection Tool KLA/Tencor CRS1010S Ultrapoint Confocal Wafer Review Ststion KLA/Tencor Quantox 6400 Metrology In | 04:59 |
| kanzure | yay now I know which companies to stalk | 04:59 |
| ybit | sleep is for the drugless | 05:43 |
| ybit | btw, i'm not sleeptyping, just working on prying myself away from information | 05:43 |
| faceface | people can control robot arms using stomach muscles - anyone know of a 'passive' typing device? | 07:45 |
| faceface | i.e. high res brain monitor for typing? | 07:45 |
| faceface | you mean he really had a big brain? or a metaphor for intelligence? | 07:48 |
| Utopiah | faceface: hi, check http://seedea.free.fr/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Content.Concepttreefmri I started a comparisom matrix in the end | 07:50 |
| faceface | ty | 07:51 |
| faceface | I figure if I ever lost a hand, I'd try to build a new one on a computer | 07:51 |
| Utopiah | Tech Talk: Machine Learning under Changing Environment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcQ4ec7z3XM at minute 15min or so gives example so you could check their Japanese lab, I didn't take the time to do so but it seem very similar | 07:51 |
| Utopiah | build or grow? | 07:52 |
| Utopiah | or let it build itself , kinda similar | 07:52 |
| Utopiah | but... you know speech recognition make progresses, you can check that *today* | 07:53 |
| Utopiah | good point about SR : it's super cheap. | 07:53 |
| Utopiah | and there is nearly no learning curve | 07:53 |
| -!- biopunk is now known as splicer | 12:15 | |
| kanzure | apparently the thing that you see people tugging behind their bikes is a 'y-frame' http://www.carryfreedom.com/Y-Frame.html according to openmanufacturing | 12:26 |
| fenn | no it's a y-frame trailer because the goofy way the hitch attaches | 12:42 |
| splicer | you guys are up at this hour? | 12:55 |
| fenn | is there something special about 9 am? | 12:55 |
| splicer | my bad | 12:57 |
| splicer | (somehow i held the belief that your morning started in about 6hrs) | 12:59 |
| fenn | my schedule rotates | 13:03 |
| fenn | so the city inspector and landlord's stooge barge into my house one day | 13:04 |
| fenn | then a couple days later i receive a notice that the city planning department "received a complaint" imagine that | 13:05 |
| fenn | they want me to remove all construction materials and equipment | 13:05 |
| fenn | with $100 fine the first day, $200 the next, up to $7500 at which point presumably they "initiate legal proceedings" | 13:06 |
| fenn | this is all for having some boards laying in my driveway mind you, and i dont have any neighbors | 13:07 |
| nsh | tell them to fuck off | 13:15 |
| nsh | i can't believe people are allowed to arbitrarily levy fines on you at a whim | 13:15 |
| nsh | there's gotta be something wrong with that | 13:15 |
| faceface | fenn, just fine them back | 14:31 |
| faceface | 'we have rules sir' - yeah, I got a bunch of 'rules' too | 14:32 |
| kanzure___ | https://www.fbo.gov/download/9bc/9bce380aafb19f9ad3bda188bfc1ab20/DARPA-BAA-08-65.doc <--- DARPA Mathematical Challenges | 16:14 |
| kanzure___ | 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 20, and 23 look interesting. | 16:16 |
| fenn | fine numbers, all of them | 16:16 |
| kanzure___ | on the document | 16:26 |
| * kanzure___ hasn't actually looked at the document, just got an email from the extropy mailing list | 16:26 | |
| kanzure___ | anybody have ideas for interesting queries to run on the database? | 16:40 |
| kanzure___ | I've been running a few multitable select queries but they don't really have any meaning | 16:41 |
| kanzure___ | "select all flows in an entire system" is a doable one, showing the chain of material or whatever. | 16:41 |
| fenn | nope no ideas | 16:52 |
| kanzure | fenn: re: social contracts, | 20:43 |
| kanzure | debian's came *after* they had something, I do believe. | 20:43 |
| kanzure | http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1997/threads.html#00017 | 20:44 |
| fenn | yes of course | 20:44 |
| kanzure | http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1997/msg00005.html | 20:44 |
| kanzure | hah | 20:44 |
| fenn | but with all this yammering about "open" it started to seem like nobody had the same idea of what "open" meant | 20:44 |
| kanzure | "debian rides space shuttle" :) | 20:44 |
| kanzure | that's true | 20:45 |
| kanzure | it's interesting though, it seems like the people are on the same note more or less | 20:45 |
| kanzure | except a few oddballs | 20:45 |
| kanzure | despite having no terminological common ground other than referencing other projects | 20:45 |
| kanzure | Hm. | 20:48 |
| kanzure | http://www.spi-inc.org/ "Software for the Public Interest" SPI is a non-profit organization which was founded to help organizations develop and distribute open hardware and software. | 20:49 |
| kanzure | oh, in the device drivers sillyness sense | 20:49 |
| fenn | device drivers? | 20:51 |
| fenn | i'm just talking about open manufacturing | 20:51 |
| kanzure | I linked to a site that had 'device drivers' | 20:52 |
| kanzure | it said 'open hardware' | 20:52 |
| kanzure | but meant it in the sense of documentation for software projects | 20:52 |
| kanzure | sorry | 20:52 |
| fenn | huh. i know seb kuzminsky | 20:53 |
| kanzure | eh? | 20:53 |
| kanzure | /join ##distros | 20:53 |
| kanzure | crap | 20:53 |
| kanzure | I fail | 20:53 |
| fenn | (he wrote the software for that space shuttle experiment) | 20:54 |
| fenn | and some device drivers for emc | 20:54 |
| kanzure | somebody remind me to figure out how to be smarter than ieee xplore, it's more important than nature | 21:07 |
| kanzure | also | 21:07 |
| kanzure | matweb has finished | 21:07 |
| fenn | yay | 21:07 |
| fenn | now what | 21:07 |
| kanzure | you want? | 21:07 |
| kanzure | well | 21:08 |
| kanzure | conversion into usable format | 21:08 |
| kanzure | right now it's mostly html | 21:08 |
| kanzure | but it's in tables | 21:08 |
| kanzure | (apparently their brilliant Excel format was also just HTML) | 21:09 |
| kanzure | 2.4 GB of HTML. | 21:11 |
| * kanzure doesn't know what this is http://fabuntu.org/downloads/reprap-fablab.zip | 21:12 | |
| kanzure | ybit: find me the better way to download neurocommons' db please :) | 21:14 |
| kanzure | you mentioned it before | 21:15 |
| kanzure | I have completely forgotten it | 21:15 |
| fenn | so i havent really looked at matweb, is there basic materials stuff like metal alloys, ceramics, plastics? | 21:16 |
| kanzure | yes | 21:16 |
| kanzure | hm. good news :) the files are deflating at about 80 to 80% via zip | 21:17 |
| fenn | figures if it's html | 21:17 |
| fenn | can probably chop out a lot of crap | 21:17 |
| kanzure | if I wasn't so lazy right now I'd work on yet another html::parse thingy in perl to extract out the data and throw it into something less like htmlk | 21:18 |
| kanzure | *html | 21:18 |
| kanzure | blah, only 2.1 GB left on the server | 21:19 |
| fenn | for example they have both SI and (random english units) | 21:19 |
| kanzure | while it's zipping | 21:20 |
| kanzure | me being my typical clueless self :) | 21:20 |
| fenn | well you should only need 480MB | 21:21 |
| kanzure | apparently "part mating" is what I should be calling "surface ontology bullshit" | 21:21 |
| kanzure | hm? | 21:21 |
| fenn | if it's zipping 80% compression | 21:21 |
| kanzure | are you calculating it by bytes and the number of digits for each of the numbers? | 21:21 |
| kanzure | ah | 21:21 |
| kanzure | well. yes. | 21:21 |
| kanzure | still deflating | 21:52 |
| kanzure | hah | 22:03 |
| kanzure | impressive | 22:03 |
| kanzure | uploading :) | 22:04 |
| fenn | what was the final size? | 22:04 |
| kanzure | 480 | 22:04 |
| * fenn struts | 22:04 | |
| kanzure | 480 MB in 48 seconds | 22:05 |
| kanzure | god I love this connection | 22:05 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/matweb.zip | 22:05 |
| kanzure | ybit: did you get the link? | 22:34 |
| ybit | my computer sucks | 22:35 |
| ybit | i don't recall pasting a link to download the data any faster | 22:35 |
| ybit | i looked at the logs, and the only link that isn't broken is: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/Banff2007Demo | 22:35 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/matweb.zip | 22:36 |
| ybit | there's also http://sparql.neurocommons.org/ | 22:36 |
| kanzure | ^ is what I meant | 22:36 |
| kanzure | No, I meant my matweb.zip link | 22:36 |
| ybit | oh | 22:36 |
| ybit | neurocommons = matweb, now? o.O | 22:36 |
| ybit | :P | 22:36 |
| kanzure | no no no | 22:36 |
| kanzure | matweb finished | 22:36 |
| ybit | ah | 22:36 |
| kanzure | I sent the link 20 minutes before you logged out | 22:36 |
| ybit | yeah, i saw that in my logs | 22:37 |
| ybit | i didn't log out, that was my computer not liking vibrations | 22:37 |
| ybit | and this link was somewhat interesting: http://neurocommons.org/page/Special:Allpages | 22:37 |
| ybit | they have information for downloading the entire dataset yourself... | 22:38 |
| ybit | hmm, not sure where i saw that.. | 22:38 |
| ybit | maybe this is what you are looking for: http://neurocommons.org/page/RDF_distribution#Loading_and_installing | 22:41 |
| kanzure | aha | 22:41 |
| ybit | do you meet the hardware requirements though? | 22:43 |
| ybit | if you want to run the server, it is recommended to have 8gb of memory | 22:44 |
| ybit | and if you just want the data... | 22:44 |
| ybit | """ | 22:44 |
| ybit | The Neurocommons Virtuoso database itself currently occupies about | 22:44 |
| ybit | 50 gigabytes, but will be expanding as some of the feeds grow and as new | 22:44 |
| ybit | feeds are added, so leave yourself plenty of room for growth. Maybe 300G. | 22:44 |
| ybit | """ | 22:44 |
| ybit | but the total needed as mentioned in http://ftp.neurocommons.org/export/NEUROCOMMONS_INSTALL.txt is ~400gb | 22:46 |
| kanzure | http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2008/09/turles-all-way-up.html | 23:02 |
| kanzure | oh wait | 23:04 |
| kanzure | that isn't about turtles at all | 23:04 |
| kanzure | :( | 23:04 |
| ybit | fenn, have you got wildcat-cat to run yet? | 23:23 |
| kanzure | http://www.awareresearch.com/ | 23:24 |
| kanzure | wildwhat? | 23:24 |
| ybit | kanzure: http://code.google.com/p/wildcat-cad/ | 23:26 |
| fenn | ybit: no | 23:26 |
| kanzure | oh, -cad | 23:26 |
| kanzure | not -cat :) | 23:26 |
| fenn | is it linux-ready yet? | 23:26 |
| ybit | i thought it was, but i didn't see a release for linux in svn | 23:27 |
| kanzure | dear lazyweb | 23:31 |
| kanzure | please hijack fabuntu for me | 23:31 |
| kanzure | kthnxbai | 23:31 |
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