| --- Day changed Tue Oct 07 2008 | ||
| splicer | quiet day in #hplusroadmap | 06:25 |
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| bkero | Boo | 06:25 |
| bkero | I'm always here, might not always talk. | 06:26 |
| splicer | didn't see you there | 06:26 |
| splicer | channelghost | 06:26 |
| splicer | diybio seems to have has some activity for once | 06:28 |
| kanzure | Huh. Mr. Craigslist is speaking at the uni. | 13:04 |
| ybit | http://superstructgame.org/ | 14:21 |
| ybit | http://www.maplight.org/ | 14:21 |
| ybit | http://claimid.com/ | 14:22 |
| ybit | http://transitionculture.org/ | 14:22 |
| ybit | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftransitionculture.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FKinsaleEnergyDescentActionPlan.pdf&ei=6W_rSJ-lO5CSggTErp3WDA&usg=AFQjCNEn8kSEsxEtTFOlRwSmcpqKb58Hew&sig2=x_FZeprFTimZPOp75sWtEw | 14:22 |
| ybit | links found due to superstruct video on the 'ultimate threat' | 14:23 |
| ybit | probably not the greatest links | 14:24 |
| ybit | sucks using a virtual keyboard | 14:24 |
| nsh | hrmm | 14:26 |
| nsh | someone should work a common scientific game framework | 14:26 |
| nsh | for making constructive games such as the protein folding one | 14:26 |
| nsh | harness the recreasphere | 14:27 |
| ybit | google could do this w/ lively, bkero, hint hint :) | 14:32 |
| bkero | What what? | 14:33 |
| nsh | wait | 14:34 |
| nsh | isn't lively a joke? | 14:34 |
| nsh | like a puritan-kid's version of second life | 14:34 |
| nsh | oh that's it | 14:35 |
| ybit | ..just as soon as the data is opened and and i can run it on me linux box. | 14:35 |
| nsh | it's ms-chat in 3d | 14:35 |
| * nsh smiles | 14:35 | |
| ybit | damn it sucks to type by clicking | 14:35 |
| nsh | please explain why you have no keyboard, using the medium of ms-paint (or equivalent) | 14:36 |
| ybit | if i type, there's a good chance my screen will go blank and i will have to restart this mammoth | 14:37 |
| ybit | but i'm typng now because my hands are starting to cramp :P | 14:37 |
| nsh | superstruct looks interesting | 14:38 |
| nsh | hmm | 14:38 |
| ybit | hand* | 14:38 |
| nsh | what kind of errors is the keyboard causing? | 14:38 |
| ybit | i suspect there's a shortage somewhere and so any vibration from say using they keyboard or especally moving the screen will cause it to go blank | 14:40 |
| nsh | laptop? | 14:45 |
| * nsh having wiring problems too :-/ | 14:45 | |
| bkero | Buy a better keyboard ;) | 14:45 |
| ybit | hehe | 14:48 |
| ybit | anyone ever tried rearranging their keyboard keys to dvorak layout? | 14:49 |
| ybit | silly me for doing that once | 14:49 |
| nsh | i rearranged the keys but they still typed querty :-((( | 14:50 |
| nsh | (jk) | 14:50 |
| ybit | :P | 14:50 |
| bkero | I wouldn't want to change anything on my keyboard. :3 | 14:50 |
| kanzure | ybit: /me is already on claimid. But it's just another openid site. | 16:38 |
| kanzure | nsh: scientific framework game? I'm sure you could do this in general for certain classes of computing problems, and then project this over biological domains. | 16:39 |
| kanzure | Gah. 'gene' is now telling me about the latest tests for MWI | 16:44 |
| kanzure | I asked him to list as many interpretations of quantum mechanics as he knew, as quickly as he could | 16:45 |
| kanzure | 'one world interpretation' | 16:45 |
| kanzure | 'multiple world interpretation' | 16:45 |
| kanzure | and he stopped. :( | 16:45 |
| kanzure | kids these days. | 16:45 |
| kanzure | nsh: scientific framework game? I'm sure you could do this in general for certain classes of computing problems, and then project this over biological domains. | 18:23 |
| * nsh nods | 18:24 | |
| kanzure | hrm | 18:27 |
| kanzure | so the professor has two 150 gallon tanks to unload and lug up 10 flights of stairs | 18:27 |
| kanzure | wants me there in 30 minutes | 18:27 |
| kanzure | now, I was under the presumption that I was still doing shape optimization | 18:27 |
| kanzure | in fact, I'm sure of it | 18:27 |
| * kanzure listens to his boxen crunch | 18:27 | |
| kanzure | guess we're just going to be doing tubs apparently | 18:27 |
| kanzure | O.o | 18:27 |
| UtopiahGHML | anybody using some social feed rinsing tool? as in you and your friends rate item within your feedclient then you choose to read only well rated feeds (or they would just appear bigger) | 18:30 |
| kanzure | no | 18:30 |
| kanzure | because everyone except me sucks | 18:30 |
| kanzure | http://strangeandhappy.com/2008/09/27/stranger-and-happier-a-positive-science-fiction-manifesto/ | 18:31 |
| UtopiahGHML | what about people who have friends they trust? | 18:31 |
| fenn | neat video demoing many basic machining operations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCL7S4eGELM&feature=related | 18:32 |
| fenn | repeats halfway through for some reason | 18:32 |
| UtopiahGHML | ok Im starting a SocialReading idea that would make a mashup with bloglines+greasemonkey+website | 18:32 |
| UtopiahGHML | any suggesiton on this? | 18:32 |
| fenn | bloglines? | 18:33 |
| UtopiahGHML | online feed reader | 18:33 |
| kanzure | whatever you do, do not make it a website | 18:33 |
| kanzure | good god man. you mustn't. | 18:34 |
| UtopiahGHML | ? | 18:34 |
| bkero | Starting an idea? | 18:34 |
| kanzure | a good client would be nice | 18:34 |
| kanzure | with a server daemon like a tracker | 18:34 |
| UtopiahGHML | a standalone client on online client, same mechanism in the end | 18:35 |
| UtopiahGHML | bkero: adding an iteam in my idea box | 18:35 |
| kanzure | ah, just an ideabox entrant .. mostly when I start an idea that just means implementation as well since otherwise it just fizzles out and dies | 18:36 |
| * kanzure has yet to submit his fixes to akregator for streamlined news reading + sharing | 18:36 | |
| kanzure | it was basically just an extra shortcut and some backend code to format the silly html/rss stuff into a better format | 18:36 |
| kanzure | and then uploaded it to my blog | 18:36 |
| UtopiahGHML | well before writting it and using resources on an idea I need to know if it already exist and what is valuable in it else I would never have any focus... | 18:37 |
| UtopiahGHML | you refine and select before investing | 18:37 |
| kanzure | a few days ago I was mentioning doing this with PDFs for SCIENCE (yes, you must shout it) and then using Autozen/AutoScholar for reading the papers automatically on an idle monitor, but whatever | 18:37 |
| kanzure | oh, there's probably a few sites doing that IIRC | 18:37 |
| fenn | kanzure: re positive science fiction, "the world is not, and never will be, a monolithic entity seeking to destroy the ecosystem and enslave the population"; this realization came to me when i was a week into a 100% raw diet.. i think most people are under constant chemical assault from inside their bodies, and it manifests as a feeling that everything is trying to attack you | 18:37 |
| bkero | What's a PDF? | 18:37 |
| kanzure | bkero: Pure evil. | 18:37 |
| bkero | Hum | 18:38 |
| bkero | Is there a better alternative? | 18:38 |
| kanzure | plain text | 18:38 |
| bkero | Why doesn't anybody use it? | 18:38 |
| fenn | because it's not pretty enough | 18:38 |
| bkero | Isn't there something as pretty as PDF but not evil? | 18:39 |
| * fenn shrugs | 18:39 | |
| kanzure | fenn: You think food 'poisoning' (at the scale that is non-toxic) is finding a route from physiology to psychology and there's some manifestation / idle realization of this bombardment to them? Is it possible that, instead, they're just clueless? | 18:39 |
| fenn | bkero: i dont think pdf is evil, just annoying | 18:39 |
| kanzure | why does it take my machine so much power to render pdf ? | 18:39 |
| kanzure | I can hardly open 10 or 20 at a time. | 18:39 |
| bkero | Isn't there something less annoying than PDF? | 18:39 |
| kanzure | PS, sort of | 18:40 |
| bkero | What's hte problem with PS? | 18:40 |
| kanzure | but it's nearly like PDF IMO | 18:40 |
| fenn | if there were a pdf->html converter that preserved formatting and images, i wouldnt mind at all | 18:40 |
| nsh | ohai | 18:40 |
| UtopiahGHML | kanzure: didn't understand you in the end does it exist or not? | 18:40 |
| kanzure | fenn: ah, but consider the problems with writing HTML rendering engines | 18:40 |
| bkero | Yea, except PS is open source and plaintext. | 18:40 |
| fenn | PS is just as slow as pdf (but at least it's greppable) | 18:40 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: I vaguely recall something like that maybe existing. Delicious comes to mind. | 18:40 |
| kanzure | fenn: can't they just as easily put an image as the page for ps files? :/ | 18:40 |
| fenn | so i have 6 gigs of pdf's i want to grep occasionally.. not sure how to deal with that | 18:41 |
| bkero | OS X can index them | 18:41 |
| bkero | Beagle MIGHT be able to. | 18:41 |
| kanzure | fenn: there's a nice perl pdf cpan thingy that I've used before | 18:41 |
| kanzure | but I didn't bother with indexing or doing any type of search with it | 18:41 |
| kanzure | there's a method for extracting/reading text in a pdf | 18:42 |
| fenn | kanzure: "put an image as the page"? | 18:42 |
| kanzure | "scan a page" without OCRing | 18:42 |
| fenn | why would you do that? | 18:42 |
| kanzure | fuck if I know | 18:42 |
| kanzure | many have done it with PDF | 18:42 |
| fenn | that's just stupidity, not a problem with pdf | 18:42 |
| fenn | they might as well post TIFF files and charge fees (oh hai USPTO) | 18:43 |
| kanzure | the real alternative to every-science-paper-as-PDF is publishing actual, runnable, code | 18:43 |
| kanzure | so instead of a bajillion papers about models about X, you have the actual models about X> | 18:44 |
| fenn | ah that would be nice | 18:44 |
| kanzure | since there's a bottleneck at the journals and the publishers anyway, they might as well enforce at that point | 18:44 |
| kanzure | yeah | 18:44 |
| kanzure | then we don't have to read crappy graphy files | 18:44 |
| fenn | instead of that pseudo-math notation algorithm stuff | 18:44 |
| kanzure | (although gnuplot files would be nice) | 18:44 |
| bkero | All scientific papers should be written in latex and rendered when a display is needed! | 18:45 |
| kanzure | when I investigated it, latex wasn't too friendly in the syntax department | 18:45 |
| kanzure | for mathematics, mathml might be doing better, or something like it | 18:46 |
| UtopiahGHML | http://www.aiderss.com/ Use PostRank. to score, filter and track performance of any RSS feed. | 18:46 |
| kanzure | for chemistry, chemml, etc. | 18:46 |
| bkero | What? Latex is perfectly fine. | 18:46 |
| kanzure | have you seen some of the syntax? | 18:46 |
| kanzure | it's more of a markup than a semantic thing for the content | 18:46 |
| bkero | My RESUME is written in LaTeX. | 18:46 |
| kanzure | I mean, it's nice to be able to make it all fancy, but | 18:46 |
| kanzure | yes, yes, I'm sure it is | 18:46 |
| bkero | I write all papers for school in latex above 1 page. | 18:46 |
| fenn | latex is a typesetting language | 18:47 |
| kanzure | heh, so at one point I was proposing to the neurocommons guys that we just use a reverse latex generator | 18:47 |
| fenn | the point is to go beyond typesetting | 18:47 |
| kanzure | feed in the PDFs, get out the original possibilities for latex | 18:47 |
| kanzure | given an understanding of the BNF/DTD for latex | 18:47 |
| kanzure | ;-) | 18:47 |
| fenn | i though SGML was supposed to fix all this | 18:47 |
| kanzure | and how the conversion from the typeset to the graphics works | 18:47 |
| UtopiahGHML | (duh I was actually already using AideRSS...) | 18:47 |
| kanzure | hrm | 18:47 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: :) | 18:47 |
| kanzure | fenn: SGML was supposed to fix a lot of things apparently | 18:47 |
| bkero | $\frac{2x_{2}-1}{2*10^{x}}$ | 18:47 |
| kanzure | the latest email I sent to the openmanufacturing list | 18:47 |
| kanzure | with all of the crappy links to egXML and stuff | 18:48 |
| fenn | gah it's worse than perl | 18:48 |
| kanzure | apparently those were initiatives after SGML but kind of from the same W3C people | 18:48 |
| fenn | kanzure: why did you send that email anyway? it looks like an ai dump | 18:48 |
| kanzure | (except moving over to the business sector a bit. B2B, EDI, ebxml, etc.) | 18:48 |
| kanzure | fenn: did you see the bottom | 18:48 |
| bkero | No it's not. I could have also written the same thing as $ \frac{2 x_2 - 1}{2 * 10^x} $ | 18:48 |
| kanzure | there was actual content | 18:48 |
| kanzure | :( | 18:48 |
| UtopiahGHML | (maybe AideRSS only allow to use 1 total ranking and not build your community or select a subpart of it) | 18:49 |
| kanzure | I wish my RSS aggregator / reader client wasn't so stupid | 18:50 |
| kanzure | it just loads everything all at once when I go into the main folder | 18:50 |
| bkero | Get a smarter rss reader | 18:50 |
| kanzure | nobody writes programs correctly .. just always assume there's enough RAM | 18:50 |
| kanzure | no, I'm pretty sure this doesn't exist yet | 18:50 |
| kanzure | even though it should | 18:50 |
| * UtopiahGHML uses Bloglines beta | 18:50 | |
| kanzure | a dynamic memory allocation library of sorts | 18:50 |
| kanzure | so that when there's more items, you *cut off* the loading gasp | 18:50 |
| kanzure | until the user is within scrolling range | 18:50 |
| kanzure | gasp | 18:50 |
| fenn | kanzure: but that's so not elegant!!1 | 18:51 |
| kanzure | elegant as loading it all at once? | 18:52 |
| kanzure | heh' | 18:52 |
| kanzure | huh. giant liquid nitrogen tank. yay. | 18:54 |
| kanzure | get to lug /that/ up 3 floors. | 18:54 |
| bkero | I saw four of those on the streets of new york walking around yesterday. | 18:54 |
| bkero | Why would those be out in the open like that? | 18:54 |
| kanzure | well, sometimes on farm land I also see giant tanks | 18:55 |
| kanzure | probably not liquid nitrogen | 18:55 |
| kanzure | but the same general structure: GIANT CYLINDER | 18:55 |
| UtopiahGHML | anybody using RSS intensively, can you imagine loosing your list of feeds (and the OPML)? | 18:55 |
| bkero | No, they said 'LIQUID NITROGEN' on the side. | 18:55 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: I am very RSS intense. | 18:55 |
| kanzure | I have 150,000 unread feed items and about 1000 subscriptions. | 18:55 |
| UtopiahGHML | so can you imagine loosing this? | 18:55 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/bookmarks/ is my old OPML | 18:55 |
| bkero | Don't subscribe to the general Digg list. :P | 18:55 |
| kanzure | nope, because I have it extensively backed up | 18:55 |
| UtopiahGHML | ... | 18:56 |
| UtopiahGHML | the point of imaging is to go beyond what is expected, imagine! | 18:56 |
| kanzure | okay, all of my hard drives fail | 18:56 |
| UtopiahGHML | imagining | 18:56 |
| kanzure | everyone's hard drives fail | 18:56 |
| fenn | bkero: possibly to keep the nitrogen from asphyxiating everyone in a closed room? | 18:56 |
| bkero | Mine don't. | 18:56 |
| kanzure | fenn: nahh | 18:56 |
| kanzure | bkero: bah, you and your stupid flash :) | 18:56 |
| fenn | does it not evaporate that fast? | 18:56 |
| bkero | Indeed. 8) | 18:56 |
| kanzure | fenn: I'm actually not sure. That's something worth checking. | 18:57 |
| kanzure | All of the labs here keep their gas tanks inside, including liquid nitrogen. | 18:57 |
| bkero | Yea | 18:57 |
| fenn | iirc the evaporation rate was surprisingly slow, but also the mass of air in a room is surprisingly small | 18:57 |
| bkero | At the University of Montana we kept it in a facility. | 18:57 |
| bkero | THese were on STREET CORNERS | 18:57 |
| UtopiahGHML | so what do you do now that your RSS are lost? | 18:57 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: I rerun my RSS crawler. | 18:58 |
| UtopiahGHML | based on keywords? | 18:58 |
| fenn | bkero: maybe they were cleverly disguised government surveilance robots | 18:58 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: No, I've just been keeping track of blogs that are referenced in the feeds that I already read. | 18:59 |
| kanzure | like multiple references | 18:59 |
| kanzure | blog X, blog Y, both mention blog Z, so maybe I should start to take a hint, etc. | 18:59 |
| UtopiahGHML | nice, made a visual map out of it? | 18:59 |
| kanzure | not yet. | 18:59 |
| kanzure | and the code isn't even fully function really | 19:00 |
| kanzure | *functional | 19:00 |
| kanzure | fenn: so I'm happy about links2 -g | 19:00 |
| UtopiahGHML | as long as you have the data, RDF? | 19:00 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: what? | 19:00 |
| fenn | what does links2 -g do? | 19:00 |
| kanzure | framebuffer graphical browser in cli | 19:00 |
| fenn | oh | 19:00 |
| kanzure | no css | 19:00 |
| kanzure | but other than that :) | 19:00 |
| kanzure | does have some javascript support apparently | 19:01 |
| kanzure | fenn: so I was thinking I'd finally try to transfer over from konqueror/opera soon .. maybe while still in KDE, though preferably not .. | 19:01 |
| UtopiahGHML | if your multiple references are in a structured way, eventually with an explicit XML schema or RDF then it should be no problem to build the graphics | 19:01 |
| kanzure | I just need a way to manage 'tabs' or my browsing through tabs | 19:01 |
| kanzure | so either the vertical KDE taskbar or something else | 19:01 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: yes, I agree | 19:01 |
| * fenn patiently waits for dillo+css to get finished | 19:01 | |
| * kanzure thinks dillo might be going down the path of duke nukem | 19:01 | |
| fenn | increasing number of websites are not working with konqueror anymore | 19:02 |
| UtopiahGHML | (Vimperator + FF for effective browsing) | 19:02 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: firefox crashes with more than 10 tabs :/ | 19:02 |
| fenn | paypal didnt work today in konq | 19:02 |
| kanzure | with Opera I can do 300 to 400, but with system slowdowns | 19:02 |
| kanzure | fenn: isn't it in paypal's favor to work with konqueror? | 19:03 |
| UtopiahGHML | 400 tabs... | 19:03 |
| kanzure | or does it not have the SSL/HTPS or other certificate standards? | 19:03 |
| UtopiahGHML | how many screens do you have? 20? :P | 19:03 |
| fenn | kanzure: nobody uses konqueror in a statistically significant sense | 19:03 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: 8 monitors | 19:03 |
| UtopiahGHML | lol | 19:03 |
| UtopiahGHML | picture | 19:03 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: hold | 19:03 |
| * UtopiahGHML holds | 19:03 | |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/shots/2008-07-22_bryandorm.png | 19:03 |
| kanzure | friend => http://heybryan.org/shots/inspiration/Superkuh_Jan22_06_desk_112956055_53fe3cf020.jpg | 19:03 |
| kanzure | same friend => http://heybryan.org/shots/inspiration/physicaldesktop.jpg | 19:04 |
| UtopiahGHML | Im sure accross all your browsing you never cam accross the concept of information overload ;) | 19:04 |
| kanzure | other friend => http://heybryan.org/shots/inspiration/notstevebutjoe/IMG_0853.JPG | 19:04 |
| kanzure | "information overload" | 19:04 |
| fenn | UtopiahGHML: problem with FF isn't the key bindings, it's the fact that it's a RAM hog | 19:04 |
| kanzure | insert typical rant here | 19:04 |
| kanzure | have I done an 'information overload' rant yet? | 19:04 |
| kanzure | fenn: and the single threadedness. | 19:05 |
| kanzure | or I don't know if that's what's really going on | 19:05 |
| fenn | they're related | 19:05 |
| kanzure | how does opera do it? is it doing multiple threads? | 19:05 |
| fenn | single process leads to memory fragmentation | 19:05 |
| UtopiahGHML | man you have only CRT are you trying to build a sauna? | 19:05 |
| fenn | is that a stack of graphics cards? | 19:05 |
| kanzure | yeah :( | 19:05 |
| kanzure | (to fenn) | 19:05 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: I probably have cancer. :/ | 19:06 |
| UtopiahGHML | like everybody else... | 19:06 |
| fenn | hey i have that same chair | 19:06 |
| kanzure | mine? I used to have kuh's chair | 19:06 |
| kanzure | it was a good chair too | 19:06 |
| ybit | "Improved Dissemination of Scientific Literature and Data with Userscripts" | 19:07 |
| UtopiahGHML | IMG_0853.JPG is the best one :) | 19:07 |
| ybit | http://blueobelisk.sourceforge.net/wiki/Userscripts | 19:07 |
| UtopiahGHML | the guy is in the basement to keep it cold | 19:07 |
| UtopiahGHML | love it :P | 19:07 |
| kanzure | that's Steve's brother :) | 19:07 |
| kanzure | ybit: are they scraping PDF links? | 19:07 |
| kanzure | with greasemonkey? | 19:07 |
| kanzure | guess not | 19:08 |
| kanzure | just scraping various syntaxes or links for other things. pdb visualization. jmol. etc. | 19:08 |
| bkero | Too many CRTs | 19:08 |
| bkero | That's a BUNCH of cancer | 19:08 |
| bkero | WHOA lots of cancer | 19:08 |
| kanzure | anyway | 19:10 |
| kanzure | vertical taskbar or something else. | 19:10 |
| bkero | No taskbar :P | 19:10 |
| kanzure | by 'something else' I mean back to CLI | 19:10 |
| kanzure | bkero: I'm talking about ways to manage 400 tabs at once | 19:10 |
| kanzure | or really not 'tabs' but rather just stuff that you've been thinking about recently | 19:10 |
| bkero | vimperator | 19:10 |
| kanzure | god, are you even listening to us? | 19:10 |
| UtopiahGHML | any idea of the price per hour of 8 CRTs like that? | 19:10 |
| kanzure | uh, free | 19:11 |
| kanzure | I picked up a few of them for no cost | 19:11 |
| UtopiahGHML | energy wise I mean | 19:11 |
| fenn | 15:10 < God> dammit kanzure how many times do i have to tell you | 19:11 |
| bkero | I think he meant in kw/h | 19:11 |
| kanzure | oh | 19:11 |
| kanzure | fenn: eh? | 19:11 |
| UtopiahGHML | I hope you don't pay for CRTs ;) | 19:11 |
| kanzure | heh | 19:11 |
| kanzure | I paid full price! yep | 19:11 |
| fenn | a pound of flesh nearest your heart | 19:12 |
| kanzure | ? | 19:12 |
| UtopiahGHML | I meant in $ not in cancer :P | 19:12 |
| UtopiahGHML | http://www.eatliver.com/i.php?n=3555 | 19:12 |
| ybit | "[18:55] <UtopiahGHML> anybody using RSS intensively, can you imagine loosing your list of feeds (and the OPML)?" -- no imagination needed this past weekend | 19:12 |
| UtopiahGHML | Oil addict | 19:12 |
| UtopiahGHML | It's time to confront the addiction and get some much needed help. | 19:12 |
| kanzure | so in the CLI situation, 'tabs' would just be in files? directories? and then just use ls to search your current dir of things you're browsing about on the web? (this is obviously easier with plan9 I bet) | 19:12 |
| UtopiahGHML | ybit: owned? | 19:13 |
| ybit | pw3nd iow? | 19:13 |
| bkero | Have you looked into tab navigation through vimperator? | 19:13 |
| kanzure | I don't like the idea of having to mv, ls, cp, rm, for each of the tabs. there'd be that finite limit of, what, four columns of file names, and then 80 lines of text since it's cli? | 19:13 |
| kanzure | bkero: no, how does it work? is it like tab navigation in elinks? | 19:14 |
| kanzure | or tab navigation in opera for that matter? CTRL+TAB and such. | 19:14 |
| bkero | Neither | 19:14 |
| UtopiahGHML | it's VIMperator =] | 19:14 |
| bkero | It's a firefox plugin | 19:14 |
| kanzure | so what, ESC + colon + shift + x + colon + percent + z + address pointer to the tab that you want + colon + shift + tty7 + .. | 19:15 |
| fenn | kanzure: how do you sort tabs? alphabetically? chronologically? some sort of adaptive algorithm? | 19:15 |
| UtopiahGHML | do you auto-colorize them? | 19:15 |
| * ybit has mentioned it two too many times (vimperator) | 19:15 | |
| kanzure | fenn: in opera I'm a wimp and I just sort them based off of the mental process that I was having at that moment .. so there's a subset of the list of tabs that represents things that I was thinking about at that moment; sometimes, as you can imagine, this is in the middle of another list. heh' | 19:15 |
| fenn | i mean how do they appear on the screen so you can select which tab to display | 19:16 |
| kanzure | hold | 19:16 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/shots/2008-01-02-shareyouropml.png | 19:16 |
| bkero | Tabs Menu or Find In Tabs don't work well for you? | 19:17 |
| fenn | i'm thinking something like a binary search tree | 19:17 |
| bkero | There are a ton of tabs extensions on addons. | 19:17 |
| fenn | er, not binary | 19:17 |
| kanzure | do you see my vertical tab list? | 19:17 |
| kanzure | bkero: oh, I'm aware of it | 19:17 |
| * UtopiahGHML wonders if Vimperator could actually auto-manage tap positionning like Irssi does it with window and eventually on better algo (should work with extension on just autocommand) | 19:17 | |
| kanzure | but first of all, firefox is already out of the question | 19:17 |
| fenn | a search tree where you press keys to get to each subtree | 19:17 |
| kanzure | firefox has excellent support for tab plugins | 19:17 |
| kanzure | fenn: eh? so, each of the alphanumerics is tied to a tree? | 19:18 |
| kanzure | for a maximum of 256 different root nodes? (or whatever) | 19:18 |
| bkero | Why is firefox out of the question? | 19:18 |
| fenn | well, probably 8 for asdf hjkl | 19:18 |
| kanzure | can't handle more than 10 or 20 tabs | 19:18 |
| kanzure | bkero: are you even listening to us? | 19:18 |
| kanzure | seriously, we just talked about this | 19:18 |
| kanzure | 10 minutes ago | 19:18 |
| kanzure | fenn: so, what, click key, expand tree, see children nodes? | 19:18 |
| kanzure | so just typical tree navigation? | 19:18 |
| bkero | Firefox crashes for you with 10 tabs open? | 19:19 |
| kanzure | well, 40 | 19:19 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/shots/June8th02007_browsers_SonyVAIO_PCVRS510.PNG | 19:19 |
| kanzure | ^ lots of browsers :p | 19:19 |
| bkero | I consistently have over 50, and I even get GOOD battery life. | 19:19 |
| bkero | (using shiretoko) | 19:19 |
| kanzure | bkero: One of my most favorite firefox extensions: http://heybryan.org/shots/June11th02007_Andrewbox.PNG | 19:19 |
| bkero | But it was fine with vanilla 3.0.x too, even the betas(mostly) | 19:19 |
| fenn | kanzure: or you could display a 4x4 grid and press two at a time to select column/row | 19:20 |
| fenn | more than that and it's probably too much to grok instantly | 19:21 |
| bkero | Vertical tabs | 19:21 |
| kanzure | bkero: Vertical hierarchical tabs :) there's a vertical tab extension for firefox and it sucks (I'm currently using it, I don't know why, but I'm also not currently using iceweasel either, so it's probably just lethargy) | 19:21 |
| fenn | speaking of lethargy, i'm taking this herbal supplement called "maca" and it seems to help with my lack of motivation | 19:22 |
| fenn | er, but i ran out yesterday so that's probably why i'm on IRC right now instead of doing something productive | 19:23 |
| UtopiahGHML | what's the point of having > 10 tabs? (or anything higher than what your screen can show the title on) | 19:23 |
| kanzure | (1R,3S)-1-methyltetrahydro--carboline-3-carboxylic acid ? | 19:23 |
| ybit | fenn, are you still mostly a raw foodist? | 19:24 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: Did you see my screenshots? Opera easily shows me more than 50 or 60 tab titles at once. | 19:24 |
| fenn | ybit: it's difficult to maintain the necessary foresight to ensure that you have raw food, especially in midwest america | 19:24 |
| UtopiahGHML | kanzure: did you see the second part of my question? | 19:24 |
| fenn | ybit: so no, unfortunately | 19:24 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: Keeping stuff in active memory, then. | 19:24 |
| ybit | fenn, i'm about 40% raw | 19:25 |
| kanzure | It's much more easily to scroll for a quick second than go through five bajillion folders in a bookmarking folder | 19:25 |
| kanzure | folder menu thingy | 19:25 |
| fenn | ybit: one of my wild ideas is to move to thailand | 19:25 |
| ybit | random :P | 19:25 |
| ybit | for raw food? :) | 19:25 |
| fenn | not random, there's lots of good food just growing on trees there | 19:25 |
| ybit | thought so | 19:25 |
| kanzure | hm => UTCS Colloquium/Architecture: Kunle Olukotun/Stanford University: "Toward Pervasive Parallelism: Parallel Applications without Parallel Programming" ACES 2.402, Monday, October 13, 2008 3:30 p.m. | 19:25 |
| ybit | my random idea is to live on the beaches near sao paulo | 19:25 |
| UtopiahGHML | kanzure: Vimperator does completion on keyword based on history (like the "awesome bar") so that's pretty fast too (even if you ahve to remember at least a keyword, I agree) | 19:26 |
| kanzure | anyway | 19:26 |
| fenn | yes brazil is good too | 19:26 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: so you have to remember the names of the pages? | 19:26 |
| kanzure | that kind of sucks | 19:26 |
| * UtopiahGHML spend 6 months in Curitiba, Parana (Brazil) | 19:26 | |
| kanzure | I just do visual remembering .. "I sort of opened up this awesome page three pages back and to the left" | 19:26 |
| kanzure | "so that would be about .. *here* in my list" | 19:26 |
| ybit | UtopiahGHML: how was it? i want to stay that long before deciding for sure | 19:26 |
| UtopiahGHML | ybit: excellent but it doesn't mean you would like it, why do you want to go there in the first place? | 19:27 |
| ybit | man i'm so afraid to type on this keyboard :P | 19:27 |
| fenn | ybit: can't you plug in a usb kb? | 19:27 |
| ybit | yes, but i dont have one. realized that this morning. it's in my aunt's apartment in nashville | 19:28 |
| * fenn looks around at the piles of usb keyboards | 19:29 | |
| fenn | you dont have _any_? | 19:29 |
| bkero | oh shit | 19:29 |
| kanzure | bkero: ? | 19:29 |
| bkero | in vimperator all tabs are buffers | 19:29 |
| kanzure | hm? | 19:29 |
| bkero | So you just hit :buffers | 19:29 |
| kanzure | and what? | 19:30 |
| bkero | and it pops up a new section on the bottom of the window that allows you to choose through tabs | 19:30 |
| kanzure | vertical list? | 19:30 |
| bkero | Yea | 19:30 |
| ybit | UtopiahGHML: geographically, it has ideal weather. less earthquakes and supposedly anything south of 10 degrees latitude has about a 1% chance of a hurricane | 19:30 |
| kanzure | with 400 tabs you'll be scrolling forever | 19:30 |
| bkero | You can search | 19:30 |
| ybit | and cheap property* | 19:30 |
| kanzure | what fields does it search. | 19:31 |
| * kanzure sighs. | 19:31 | |
| UtopiahGHML | ybit: yes it's cheap especially if you are a westerner ... obviously. Anyway if those are you only requirement then what would be something you would avoid? | 19:31 |
| bkero | url and title | 19:31 |
| kanzure | meh. easily changed. | 19:31 |
| kanzure | blah, I don't think that's a good method either | 19:31 |
| ybit | crime | 19:31 |
| ybit | UtopiahGHML: ^ | 19:32 |
| kanzure | "use a list or search" sounds like it's missing the big picture | 19:32 |
| fenn | oppressive political regimes | 19:32 |
| ybit | that too | 19:32 |
| UtopiahGHML | ybit: that's a business in Brazil you have gatted communities, it's very developped | 19:32 |
| ybit | but you can only for so long as a friend, *cough* phreedom *cough* pointed out this morning | 19:32 |
| ybit | run* | 19:32 |
| UtopiahGHML | security has a price, especially in a country with high income disparity | 19:32 |
| fenn | i think the real problem is overpopulation | 19:33 |
| fenn | apparently thailand had great success with their birth control program because of the buddhist culture | 19:33 |
| UtopiahGHML | overpopulation in Brazil? | 19:33 |
| UtopiahGHML | what does overpopulation even mean? | 19:34 |
| fenn | too many people in a given area | 19:34 |
| fenn | pictures like this make me want to run away: http://www.travel-earth.com/brazil/sao-paulo.jpg | 19:34 |
| ybit | overpopulation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sn5bjHAIFY | 19:34 |
| kanzure | fenn: holy crap | 19:35 |
| ybit | ignore the crappy commercial | 19:35 |
| kanzure | that's a nightmare | 19:35 |
| UtopiahGHML | hehe | 19:35 |
| * kanzure doubts that such a city could be effectively managed | 19:35 | |
| UtopiahGHML | Sao Paolo | 19:35 |
| UtopiahGHML | I had some coktails in the highest tower there, so... quiet city :) | 19:36 |
| ybit | if not sao paulo, then 5 hours away is rio de janeiro | 19:36 |
| UtopiahGHML | SP is the economical center | 19:36 |
| UtopiahGHML | Rio de Janeiro is the touristic center | 19:36 |
| ybit | http://toursonline.org/wp-includes/images/rio_de%20janeiro.jpg | 19:36 |
| UtopiahGHML | SP-Curitiba-Florianopolis in the industrial/economical core | 19:37 |
| UtopiahGHML | so what will be your activity there ybit ? that would change the location I guess | 19:37 |
| ybit | good question UtopiahGHML, it would be sweet to implement fablabs :) | 19:38 |
| UtopiahGHML | then I would recommand Florianopolis | 19:38 |
| UtopiahGHML | it's not far away from SP/Curitiba and also the little country south ;) | 19:38 |
| UtopiahGHML | and few hours away by car of gorgeous island and playa | 19:38 |
| UtopiahGHML | good party spots and surf spots | 19:38 |
| ybit | or work in bioeng|neuroeng|compneuro field | 19:38 |
| UtopiahGHML | top schools/uni are in SP especially regarding business | 19:39 |
| ybit | why florianopolis? | 19:41 |
| UtopiahGHML | 21:38 < UtopiahGHML> it's not far away from SP/Curitiba and also the little country south ;) | 19:42 |
| UtopiahGHML | 21:38 < UtopiahGHML> and few hours away by car of gorgeous island and playa | 19:42 |
| UtopiahGHML | 21:38 < UtopiahGHML> good party spots and surf spots | 19:42 |
| ybit | i was expecting you to say they would be more open the idea of fablabs throughout the area or that there are more engineering jobs there :) | 19:44 |
| * ybit figured such jobs would be closer to the larger cities | 19:45 | |
| UtopiahGHML | I said before that "SP-Curitiba-Florianopolis in the industrial/economical core" | 19:46 |
| ybit | ah | 19:46 |
| ybit | my apologies | 19:46 |
| ybit | florianopolis certainly is appealing to the eyes, and as a bonus, doesn't have a large statue of jesus hovering over the city, constantly taunting and tempting me to shoot a rocket toward it | 19:48 |
| UtopiahGHML | In Brazil, the most widespread form of gated community is called "condomÃnio fechado" (closed housing estate) and is the object of desire of the upper classes. Such a place is a small town with its own infrastructure (backup power supply, sanitation, and security guards). The purpose of such a community is to protect its residents from outside violence. The same philosophy is seen on closed buildings and most s | 19:49 |
| ybit | strange how the conversaton goes from raw food to blowing up jesus statues ;P | 19:50 |
| UtopiahGHML | condomÃnio fechado were pretty weird really | 19:52 |
| UtopiahGHML | one time I participate to some special voodoo ceremony | 19:52 |
| UtopiahGHML | and we did it in the poor country side after picking up some people in gatted community | 19:52 |
| UtopiahGHML | mix of very poor and very rich few miles away | 19:52 |
| UtopiahGHML | gathered together to have some weird religious custom originated in Africa | 19:53 |
| UtopiahGHML | and... a little white guy or 2 there... | 19:53 |
| UtopiahGHML | fuck, I hope they don't control me since with sacred voodoo dolls! | 19:53 |
| fenn | i believe the term is 'unholy' | 19:54 |
| UtopiahGHML | sorry | 19:54 |
| UtopiahGHML | unholy fuck, I hope they don't control me since with sacred voodoo dolls! | 19:54 |
| kanzure | "I believe Dr. Bowyers is making vast strides in engineering!" why'd I join the stupid cosmic engineers mailing list | 19:58 |
| kanzure | "we believe in warm glow fuzzy koodles outwards expansion help people waaah" | 19:58 |
| bkero | So I just decided that I want to use vimperator full-time. It'll even make me to learn vim better. :) | 19:58 |
| kanzure | alfjdalkfjadolfjka | 19:58 |
| kanzure | firefox .. tabs. it fails. :( | 19:59 |
| bkero | Working fine for me. | 19:59 |
| kanzure | at 40 | 19:59 |
| bkero | At 53 | 19:59 |
| kanzure | Leave it running for a few days, do your normal routine, don't close things, see what it's like at 100, 200, and so on | 19:59 |
| kanzure | you'll see. | 19:59 |
| bkero | It's been running for over a month | 19:59 |
| kanzure | at 53 | 19:59 |
| bkero | Yes | 19:59 |
| kanzure | I just said 100, 200, 300 | 20:00 |
| kanzure | why doesn't anybody listen to me | 20:00 |
| bkero | I've been up to about 80 with no discernable difference. | 20:00 |
| bkero | Maybe it's due to the good seek times on my SSD though. | 20:00 |
| kanzure | I just said 100, 200, 300 | 20:01 |
| kanzure | not 80 | 20:01 |
| fenn | hey i thought emacs was the text editor with a web browser in it | 20:01 |
| kanzure | why doesn't anybody listen to me | 20:01 |
| UtopiahGHML | (communication problem detected) | 20:02 |
| fenn | hold still for transcranial implant | 20:02 |
| bkero | emacs is a text editor with a EVERYTHING in it | 20:03 |
| UtopiahGHML | Vim rules | 20:04 |
| nsh | Quiet. | 20:04 |
| bkero | UtopiahGHML: try vimperator <3 | 20:04 |
| nsh | it's like arguing over which is the better kind of column, ionic or doric | 20:05 |
| UtopiahGHML | bkero: thanks but Ive been in #vimperator for a while now | 20:05 |
| bkero | :) | 20:06 |
| UtopiahGHML | have you done any small script or command for it? | 20:07 |
| kanzure | why doesn't bkero listen to anything that's going on | 20:08 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML and ybit have been talking about vimperator for the past hour | 20:08 |
| kanzure | I'm seriously questioning bkero's ability to read | 20:08 |
| UtopiahGHML | hey kanzure , you should try Firefox | 20:08 |
| kanzure | http://www.mirekw.com/ca/mjcell/mjcell.html ' Mirek's Java Cellebration (MJCell) is a Java applet that allows playing 300+ Cellular Automata rules and 1400+ patterns. It can play rules from 13 CA rules families: Generations, Life, Vote, Weighted Life, Rule tables, Cyclic CA, 1D totalistic, 1D binary, Neumann binary, General binary, Margolus neighborhood, Larger than Life, and some of the User DLLs. It allows also to experiment with own rules. ' | 20:09 |
| kanzure | god | 20:09 |
| kanzure | I feel like I'm talking to brick walls | 20:09 |
| bkero | I think I mentioned it first | 20:09 |
| UtopiahGHML | =] | 20:09 |
| ybit | awesome wm, xmonad, and the rest of minimalist setups are nice, but what about consistency and integration offered by kde, not to mention nepomuk | 20:09 |
| UtopiahGHML | lol | 20:09 |
| bkero | 01:29 < ybit> before long you will be using awesome wm with firefox and vimperator :) | 20:10 |
| bkero | 22:49 < ybit> for the browser, you really might want to try vimperator+firefox if you are using a tiled wm [kanzure] | 20:10 |
| bkero | 19:10 < bkero> vimperator | 20:10 |
| bkero | 19:13 < bkero> Have you looked into tab navigation through vimperator? | 20:10 |
| bkero | 19:15 * ybit has mentioned it two too many times (vimperator) | 20:10 |
| bkero | (sorry I don't date-stamp) | 20:10 |
| UtopiahGHML | case sensitive? | 20:10 |
| ybit | it's addicting indeed, but i have switched switch back and forth several times | 20:11 |
| ybit | mostly, when i am fed up with remember what keyboard commands do what | 20:12 |
| bkero | UtopiahGHML: Guess you mentioned it 8 minutes before me :) | 20:12 |
| ybit | remembering* ...and just want to get things done quicker | 20:12 |
| ybit | depends on my mood too :) | 20:13 |
| bkero | Ok, I'm up to 190 tabs. Let's see how long firefox 3.0.1 will last. | 20:13 |
| kanzure | bkero: of content pages or just blank tabks? | 20:14 |
| kanzure | *tabks | 20:14 |
| kanzure | **tabs | 20:14 |
| UtopiahGHML | how many tabs with Flash content? | 20:14 |
| kanzure | Firefox 2 was doing 10,000 blank tabs easily | 20:14 |
| ybit | UtopiahGHML: interesting info on brazil you presented, though i'm not sure where voodoo ties in with it :) | 20:14 |
| kanzure | heh | 20:14 |
| bkero | kanzure: I did a google search and loaded every link on 18 pages plus what I had open in another window | 20:14 |
| kanzure | wait, aren't you on some ridiculously suped up system? | 20:15 |
| bkero | uh | 20:15 |
| UtopiahGHML | ybit: slave trade, africa, culture, voodoo, getting in? | 20:15 |
| bkero | I'm on a Pentium 4 3.4GHz with 3GB RAM | 20:15 |
| kanzure | 3.4 GHz with 3 GB RAM | 20:15 |
| kanzure | yeah | 20:15 |
| ybit | ah, the history, i see | 20:15 |
| bkero | It's running at 2.4GHz now | 20:15 |
| kanzure | I'd say you're cheating :) | 20:15 |
| bkero | DUDE ITS A PENTIUM 4 | 20:15 |
| ybit | UtopiahGHML ^ | 20:15 |
| kanzure | ehh | 20:15 |
| kanzure | okay, handicap points | 20:15 |
| UtopiahGHML | ybit: history is a useful tool if you want to bet in a country ;) | 20:16 |
| bkero | Firefox is eating ~23-35% cpu, 350MB | 20:16 |
| ybit | okay, let's take it to the extreme, bkero: 15k tabs for 40 days! | 20:16 |
| kanzure | bkero: Tell me when it starts to eat into other stuff you're doing. That's when I get interested. | 20:16 |
| kanzure | I've noticed sometimes browsers taking up large percentages of CPU processing time but otherwise not screwing up everything else | 20:17 |
| kanzure | but other times, not so much | 20:17 |
| bkero | I've got gkrellm running on top, so we'll see when it does something | 20:17 |
| UtopiahGHML | with 10% java applets, 40% ajax, 10% flash, ... (not being exclusive too, etc...) | 20:17 |
| bkero | 21% cpu, 243 processes, 4 users, says gkrellm | 20:17 |
| ybit | nice screenshot kanzure, anyone know of something similar to share.opml.org ? | 20:20 |
| kanzure | yes, a directory on a server ... | 20:21 |
| kanzure | just collect people's OPML files :) | 20:21 |
| kanzure | export w/ FOAF XML | 20:22 |
| ybit | TOUCHE! | 20:22 |
| kanzure | heh | 20:23 |
| kanzure | (also, "touchy" is just as appropriate) | 20:23 |
| ybit | figured i'd get in on the caps lock since everyone uses them these days | 20:23 |
| ybit | haha | 20:23 |
| ybit | but, wtf: http://heybryan.org/shots/2008-01-02-shareyouropml.png | 20:23 |
| ybit | windows!? srsly? | 20:23 |
| kanzure | also, the solution to dealing with tabbing might be to consider graph compartmentalization, each browser session is a traversal of a graph, through the path and the overall connectivity into a pot, or a python egg, and just stash that away somewhere in your tree full o' nuts | 20:23 |
| kanzure | ybit: computers were down :( | 20:23 |
| kanzure | had to steal usage time on my brother's. | 20:24 |
| * kanzure goes off to sniff liquid nitrogen or something | 20:24 | |
| ybit | :P | 20:24 |
| kanzure | ybit: wait, that wasn't windows in share-your-opml methinks | 20:24 |
| bkero | kanzure: why not load firefox profiles depending on tree? | 20:24 |
| bkero | That would cut down on the sqllite slowness | 20:25 |
| ybit | yeah yeah, wrong link | 20:25 |
| ybit | i was thinking of http://heybryan.org/shots/June8th02007_browsers_SonyVAIO_PCVRS510.PNG | 20:26 |
| willPow3r | my ip has been banned from freenode for over a week now because i ran tor as an exit node for less than 2 hours | 20:59 |
| fenn | you should talk to a staff member | 21:01 |
| willPow3r | where can i find one of those? | 21:04 |
| fenn | i guess there arent any logged in and wearing their staff hat right now (/stats p should show them i think) | 21:06 |
| bkero | ask christel, she loves that ;) | 21:07 |
| bkero | Actually email kline@freenode.net | 21:07 |
| bkero | I set up that mail alias for RT for them :) | 21:07 |
| willPow3r | hmm. kline? | 21:11 |
| bkero | That's the message it should have given you when it banned you. | 21:11 |
| fenn | A k-line is a line in an ircd.conf file that can be used to prevent certain people, or people from certain computers or networks, from connecting to that server. | 21:13 |
| willPow3r | oh. | 21:13 |
| willPow3r | so i actually have to send an email? | 21:14 |
| willPow3r | thats so... 90's | 21:14 |
| bkero | It goes into RT, and you get assigned a ticket. | 21:14 |
| bkero | Then they see your tor gateway is down, and take you out of the lists. | 21:15 |
| willPow3r | efnet has a website that you can go to and input your ip addy to have it removed automatically | 21:15 |
| willPow3r | but i guess that network is more trusting/advanced than freenode | 21:16 |
| bkero | Freenode is pretty 90s | 21:16 |
| willPow3r | yeah, very pre-1337 | 21:17 |
| bkero | The people who run it are cool though | 21:17 |
| bkero | I mean they name the nodes after science fiction authors...and | 21:17 |
| bkero | http://www.openverse.com/~dtinker/agalmics.html | 21:18 |
| bkero | The guy who started freenode wrote that. | 21:18 |
| willPow3r | k, sent it off, we'll see what happens | 21:22 |
| willPow3r | Let's briefly compare photosynthesis with cellular respiration. | 21:34 |
| willPow3r | Both processes involve redox reactions. During cellular respiration, | 21:34 |
| willPow3r | energy is released from sugar when electrons asso,nated | 21:34 |
| willPow3r | with hydrogen are transported by carriers to oxygen, | 21:34 |
| willPow3r | forming water as a by-product. | 21:34 |
| willPow3r | biology is either amazingly fascinating or infinitely boring. can't tell. | 21:35 |
| willPow3r | bkero, thanks for the help re: kline | 21:40 |
| willPow3r | they took me off kline | 21:40 |
| bkero | willPow3r: no problem | 21:40 |
| fenn | willPow3r: you just need more pictures: http://youtube.com/watch?v=E8NHcQesYl8 | 21:41 |
| willPow3r | fenn, interesting, i never thought to look on utube | 21:42 |
| willPow3r | utoob rather | 21:42 |
| fenn | i particularly like part 2 | 21:44 |
| fenn | sure beats those stupid diagrams with circles and arrows | 21:45 |
| fenn | more of the same series: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nl8pSlonmA0 | 21:46 |
| kanzure | Guy who started freenode is dead. :( Niven I mean. | 21:56 |
| kanzure | willPow3r: You can also try http://heybryan.org/school/Biology/ and either the one that has 'metabolism' or 'respiration' in it, or http://heybryan.org/school/Biology/notes/output.html | 21:59 |
| * kanzure wonders where all of the youthful energy from /school/Biology/ went. | 22:00 | |
| kanzure | it was something about /having/ to do all of the work | 22:01 |
| kanzure | almost a fear. | 22:01 |
| willPow3r | maybe you're delusional about your past exuberance | 22:01 |
| kanzure | but look! the files! :) | 22:01 |
| kanzure | they're right there | 22:01 |
| willPow3r | files don't lie, as they say | 22:03 |
| kanzure | what? | 22:03 |
| willPow3r | oh, thats photos. n/m | 22:05 |
| willPow3r | pictures* | 22:05 |
| kanzure | what? | 22:06 |
| kanzure | hrm | 22:06 |
| willPow3r | you've never heard the saying "pictures never lie?" | 22:06 |
| kanzure | bkero: the problem with multiple sessions is this: http://heybryan.org/projects/social/sessdb/files/ ... you're back to the tab problem again. Soon the directory will be too large to support much. (And uh, for the record, that hasn't been updated since mid 2007. Obviously I've had more than a year to accumulate more session files.) | 22:07 |
| bkero | Er, are sessions = profiles? | 22:08 |
| kanzure | sort of. | 22:09 |
| kanzure | saved sets of tabs | 22:09 |
| kanzure | plus profile information | 22:09 |
| fenn | http://www.molecularmovies.com/showcase/index.html | 22:15 |
| kanzure | time for a link dump | 22:17 |
| kanzure | I knew I collected thousands of bookmarks on this for a reason :) | 22:17 |
| fenn | noooo | 22:18 |
| kanzure | http://www.laporte.isd.esc4.net/campuses/lphs/science/kicklighterr/preap/cell/respiration.htm http://home.comcast.net/~john.kimball1/BiologyPages/C/CellularRespiration.html http://biology.clc.uc.edu/courses/bio104/cellresp.htm http://biology.clc.uc.edu/courses/bio104/atp.htm http://www.utm.edu/departments/cens/biology/faculty_pages/respirat.htm http://homepages.ius.edu/GKIRCHNE/Glycolysis.htm http://projects.edtech.sandi.net/miramesa/Organelles/chemce | 22:21 |
| kanzure | also, http://dnatube.com/ | 22:22 |
| kanzure | the atp.htm is the 'cell respiration song' :) | 22:23 |
| kanzure | grumble grumble | 22:35 |
| kanzure | I should get around to fixing the python scripts that were exporting my ADR file into flat file directories | 22:35 |
| willPow3r | kanzure, did that chinese materials list downloader thing to work? | 22:57 |
| kanzure | yes :) | 22:57 |
| kanzure | I wonder if you could fit a foundry on the back of Iron Man. | 22:59 |
| willPow3r | are you going to publish the information? | 23:06 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/ | 23:07 |
| kanzure | matweb.zip | 23:07 |
| kanzure | I suggest you yell at me to convert it into MatML first | 23:07 |
| kanzure | before downloading the 480 MB zip file | 23:07 |
| willPow3r | what does it open with? | 23:30 |
| kanzure | presently it's a hunk of HTML | 23:30 |
| willPow3r | all their data was in html format? | 23:41 |
| kanzure | willPow3r: yeah :( | 23:43 |
| willPow3r | well, they *are* an industrializing nation | 23:44 |
| willPow3r | so they have an excuse | 23:44 |
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