| --- Day changed Wed Oct 15 2008 | ||
| willPow3r | and no i'm not racist. | 00:09 |
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| ybit | kanzure, is the cad.py file located http://fab.cba.mit.edu/about/fab/ in fabuntu? | 00:26 |
| ybit | you do have fabuntu right? | 00:27 |
| kanzure | http://fabuntu.org/downloads/ | 00:27 |
| kanzure | No, I don't have fabuntu. /me fetches it. | 00:27 |
| fenn | it's rather small @277mb | 00:28 |
| ybit | i'll grab it tomorrow while i'm on a stable comp. | 00:29 |
| fenn | they don't really explain what it is, eh? | 00:29 |
| kanzure | CBA/fablab on some site somewhere explains it a bit | 00:30 |
| kanzure | something about a handful of extra scripts for using the equipment | 00:30 |
| ybit | okay, yeah, cad.py is included | 00:30 |
| ybit | btw, i'm sure most of you have seen this page: http://fab.cba.mit.edu/content/tools/ | 00:34 |
| ybit | it still makes me drool | 00:34 |
| * fenn is unimpressed | 00:34 | |
| kanzure | ybit: wrong link. | 00:35 |
| kanzure | http://fab.cba.mit.edu/about/fab/inv.html | 00:36 |
| fenn | what the fuck: 3M #1126 copper tape with conductive adhesive 6"x36 yds @$236.44/roll | 00:41 |
| willPow3r | http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:expandcategory?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087¤t-category-id=02695ADDF94544E5A11D24AEBC064493&tab=1#tab-container-3 | 00:42 |
| fenn | nevermind, i guess that is a lot of tape | 00:42 |
| kanzure | ? lenovo, laptops? | 00:42 |
| willPow3r | i wish i would have seen that before i blew 2k on my new u110 | 00:42 |
| bkero | I can give anyone here IBM employee pricing on any Lenovo laptops. | 00:45 |
| willPow3r | how much could you get a u110 for? | 00:46 |
| bkero | I dunno | 00:47 |
| willPow3r | do you get like 35% off or something? | 00:47 |
| bkero | Let's see. | 00:48 |
| bkero | They start at $1486.65 | 00:48 |
| ybit | para el enlaces (fablab inventory web link), gracias capit?n kanzure | 00:48 |
| willPow3r | bkero, before emp. pricing? | 00:49 |
| bkero | After | 00:49 |
| willPow3r | they start at 1899 w/out, but are on sale for 1749 right now | 00:51 |
| willPow3r | so about 22% | 00:52 |
| willPow3r | which is significant. wish i had known sooner | 00:52 |
| bkero | I ordered new macbook today. | 00:54 |
| bkero | I have 2 new laptops coming in the following weeks. | 00:54 |
| * bkero goes home | 00:54 | |
| * fenn cries in his milk | 00:55 | |
| willPow3r | fenn, melamine milk? | 00:56 |
| fenn | old-laptop milk | 00:56 |
| kanzure | How the fuck do you people afford these things? | 00:56 |
| willPow3r | there is one significant advantage to having an old laptop | 00:56 |
| willPow3r | kanzure, u are familiar w/ the credit crunch, right? | 00:56 |
| willPow3r | the linux drivers. | 00:57 |
| fenn | willPow3r: i'd just buy a new one with linux installed | 00:57 |
| willPow3r | linux wont even install on mine | 00:57 |
| kanzure | willPow3r: What? | 00:57 |
| kanzure | Credit crunch, huh? | 00:57 |
| kanzure | That doesn't explain how you can afford this. | 00:57 |
| willPow3r | i used to be in the air force and i collect funds from them now to go to school | 00:58 |
| kanzure | And this allows multiple laptops? | 00:58 |
| willPow3r | military doesn't pay [i]nearly[/i] as bad as the media makes it sound | 00:59 |
| fenn | it's a job.. | 01:00 |
| willPow3r | "cell phones for soldiers"?? pull-fucking-leeze. they make so much money in combat zones | 01:00 |
| fenn | that pisses me off, because they just grind them all up into toxic sludge to extract the gold, and then i can't get any cellphones to play with | 01:00 |
| kanzure | but I see this in general all across campus | 01:02 |
| willPow3r | kanzure should join the army | 01:02 |
| kanzure | if I join the army, you'll see a death star deployed in under three months | 01:02 |
| kanzure | secret backup garage w/ nitrogen-based rockets | 01:02 |
| kanzure | I have this psychosis; I don't tell you guys nearly as much as I probably should | 01:02 |
| willPow3r | ehh. not impressed. | 01:02 |
| kanzure | Have you seen my journals? :-/ | 01:02 |
| willPow3r | do they have pics of you in caves in afghanistan by chance? | 01:03 |
| kanzure | Yes, but I was in metal armor. | 01:03 |
| willPow3r | oh, medevial style | 01:03 |
| kanzure | Nah. | 01:03 |
| willPow3r | it would have been cool though. | 01:08 |
| willPow3r | kanzure, is this you: http://heybryan.org/shots/2008-05-23_bryanhead.png | 01:16 |
| kanzure_ | Can somebody help me become more paranoid? | 01:30 |
| fenn | aw, it's like reprap only less pretentious: http://fab.cba.mit.edu/classes/MIT/863.07/11.05/fabaroni/ | 01:31 |
| kanzure | "How to Make (Almost) Anything" is a very famous class. | 01:32 |
| kanzure | I recall reading about one year where the class decided to build a 747 while stranded on an island. That sort of thing. | 01:32 |
| fenn | huh? | 01:33 |
| kanzure | Slashdot comment id 5820149 | 01:33 |
| kanzure | Maybe. | 01:33 |
| fenn | sounds like sarcasm to me | 01:34 |
| fenn | (not that i can find the comment you're talking about) | 01:34 |
| kanzure | http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aslashdot.org+build+an+airplane+how+to+make+anything&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 | 01:35 |
| kanzure | Blargh. | 01:35 |
| fenn | yay, no results | 01:37 |
| kanzure | http://membranes.nbi.dk/publications.html | 01:39 |
| kanzure | http://superkuh.ath.cx/users/superkuh/Library/BrainDynamics/On%20the%20action%20potential%20as%20a%20propagating%20density%20pulse%20and%20the%20role%20of%20anesthetics.pdf | 01:39 |
| kanzure | http://superkuh.ath.cx/users/superkuh/Library/BrainDynamics/Global mapping of pharmacological space nbt1228_Paolini.pdf | 02:34 |
| kanzure | Wouldn't that reek of fenn's global ontological crisis | 02:34 |
| -!- mind|distracted is now known as mindspillage | 04:09 | |
| xp_prg | hi all! | 05:01 |
| gene | you know people don't tend to like the concept of self-replicating machines | 05:37 |
| gene | they keep telling me that self-replicating robots are bad | 05:39 |
| gene | They have obviously watched too many movies | 05:39 |
| boogles_ | Life is a self-replicating machine | 05:44 |
| fenn | how many movies have self-replicating robots anyway? i can only think of one: the terminator series | 05:44 |
| fenn | oh and the matrix | 05:44 |
| fenn | any more? | 05:45 |
| willPow3r | didn't fortress have those? | 05:57 |
| willPow3r | w/ christopher lambert? | 05:58 |
| gene | people see robots as bad beacause movies paint robots as bad | 06:02 |
| gene | Hollywood stereotypes robots | 06:03 |
| gene | will you must be old | 06:06 |
| fenn | ooo james cameron is doing battle angel alita | 06:08 |
| gene | and steven spielberg is doing ghost in the shell | 06:10 |
| fenn | ew | 06:10 |
| fenn | that doesn't even make sense | 06:10 |
| bkero | lol | 06:10 |
| bkero | Keanu Reeves is diong Cowboy Bebop | 06:10 |
| gene | really? | 06:11 |
| gene | spielberg wants to do ghost in the shell | 06:11 |
| gene | he better not do what he did to indiana jones | 06:11 |
| bkero | Keanu Reeves is spike in a live-action Cowboy Bebop | 06:12 |
| gene | I am not familiar with that anime, please wait while plot summaries are loaded... | 06:13 |
| bkero | what | 06:19 |
| bkero | You know GitS but not Bebop? | 06:20 |
| bkero | Bebop is my third favorite anime. | 06:20 |
| bkero | The soundtrack is a close first. | 06:20 |
| fenn | awesome soundtrack | 06:22 |
| fenn | i love 'we qui non coin' | 06:23 |
| bkero | I like the entire thing :) | 06:24 |
| fenn | http://fennetic.net/pub/irc/Cowboy Bebop OST 3 - 14 - We Qui Non Coin.mp3 | 06:24 |
| fenn | strangely it has nothing to do with the plot in that particular episode | 06:26 |
| fenn | erm, but i guess you'd have to know japanese to understand what it's about | 06:26 |
| fenn | (it's about a girl whose dog ran away) | 06:27 |
| bkero | Yea | 06:27 |
| bkero | I listen to the soundtrack in alphabetical | 06:27 |
| bkero | I have all 3 OSTs, the Movie soundtrack, and Vitaminless | 06:27 |
| fenn | vitaminless is just the same songs live, right? | 06:28 |
| bkero | No | 06:29 |
| bkero | Vitaminless is actually by the seatbelts | 06:30 |
| bkero | It's Yoko Kanno's band doing covers of Yoko Kanno songs. | 06:30 |
| bkero | Damn, it seems there's a bunch more seatbelts I need | 06:31 |
| fenn | ooo spooky, search for "sharon apple theory" http://www.gabrielarobin.com/mainsite/gr.html | 07:38 |
| fenn | the new sifter interface is refreshingly functional | 08:27 |
| fenn | or maybe it's just the sub-second response time | 08:29 |
| kanzure_1_ | http://www.interfacecontrol.com/sml/sml/mainpage.htm Spacecraft Markup Language. | 15:20 |
| kanzure_1_ | http://www.yeda.de/dreammarkup/index1.php Dream Markup? | 15:22 |
| kanzure_1_ | http://www.interfacecontrol.com/sml/sml/mainpage.htm Spacecraft Markup Language. <-- Phreedom. Since you missed it. | 15:23 |
| Phreedom | kanzure_1_: thanks. will take a look | 15:24 |
| kanzure_1_ | fenn: it occurs to me that the 'interface'/flow metadata might already be somewhat implemented with CAPs in ebXML CPP situations | 15:24 |
| kanzure_1_ | http://fcmlgroup.org/index.php?id=1&L=2&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=&cHash= Facility Control Markup Language | 15:27 |
| kanzure_1_ | Everybody Wants To Be A Markup Language | 15:28 |
| kanzure_1_ | Next they're going to want me to design an XML-compatible microprocessor ... | 15:28 |
| kanzure_1_ | Explanation of cpp: http://www.developer.com/xml/article.php/2247851 | 15:37 |
| kanzure_1_ | "The CPP is a formal description file that lists what an organization can do in terms of ebXML operations." | 15:37 |
| kanzure_1_ | Except obviously we don't want it in terms of 'organizations' but instead 'parts'. | 15:37 |
| kanzure_1_ | http://web.mit.edu/mecheng/pml/why_pml.htm <-- Hrm. | 15:54 |
| kanzure_1_ | " | 15:57 |
| kanzure_1_ | Within lower order pairs there are six general types of couplings - spherical, planar, cylindrical, revolute, prismatic and screw, as shown in Figure 7, There are six lower order kinematic pairs -, spherical, planar, cylindrical, revolute, prismatic and screw can be represented easily in the Physical Markup Language." | 15:57 |
| kanzure_1_ | fenn: is the male/female socket distinction useful enough to keep? | 16:14 |
| xp_prg | hi all! | 17:13 |
| * kanzure_1_ leaves. | 17:44 | |
| * bkero stays. | 17:49 | |
| bkero | lolmicrolanguages | 17:49 |
| -!- xp_prg4 is now known as xp_prg | 19:34 | |
| fenn | yep otherwise you try to put a nut in a nut | 19:57 |
| fenn | which is possible, but not with the same size thread | 19:57 |
| nsh- | saywhat? | 20:02 |
| splicer | I have a completely unrelated question... does anyone know how a chemical sperm count kit works? | 20:04 |
| nsh- | my friend malthius simbad al-internet probably does | 20:05 |
| * nsh- asks | 20:05 | |
| splicer | took me a while to get that ;) .. i couldn't find it there | 20:06 |
| splicer | they look like this: http://www.reallifesolutions.co.uk/FORHIMfertilmarqtech.htm | 20:08 |
| splicer | some reaction turns the thing blue in proportion to the amount of sperm | 20:09 |
| splicer | but i can't understand how it works | 20:09 |
| nsh- | how the staining works? | 20:09 |
| nsh- | or how the comparison works? | 20:09 |
| splicer | yeah... it it pH driven? | 20:10 |
| splicer | staining | 20:10 |
| splicer | is it just a stain, like gram staining? | 20:10 |
| * nsh- would suspect so | 20:11 | |
| nsh- | http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/reprod/semeneval/morph.html looks informative | 20:11 |
| splicer | you´re right... I'm an idoit | 20:12 |
| splicer | ; ) thanks | 20:12 |
| nsh- | np, happy sperming | 20:12 |
| kanzure_ | Hrm, it's not supposed to rain in Texas. | 20:14 |
| splicer | it's sperm | 20:15 |
| splicer | sorry about that, I'll do it somewhere else | 20:16 |
| fenn | not pH, semen is highly buffered regardless of sperm content. it's probably a bradford assay? | 20:18 |
| kanzure | fenn: Charles Collis is adciv.org | 20:20 |
| splicer | fenn: About the pH, I overcomplicated it... I imagined some reaction with the sperm that would make the solution acidic. I was far off. | 20:20 |
| splicer | fenn: I think there is a lot of protein in the solution compared to the amount of sperm | 20:22 |
| kanzure_ | Also, I've been unable to find mathematical models of the destruction of algal membranes by different methods of energy transfer. Since I've not been able to find anything, I'm considering bruteforcing it .. i.e., total energy content of the membrane, anything greater than that will bust it. Thoughts? | 20:23 |
| bkero | Unequal energy distribution around the membrane? | 20:23 |
| fenn | you can break the membrane at room temp. with the right enzymes | 20:24 |
| kanzure_ | fenn: enzymes are another method, that's true. | 20:24 |
| fenn | i'm just saying it's not about energy content | 20:24 |
| fenn | strain in the membrane, for physical methods | 20:24 |
| * fenn suddenly has the urge to rap | 20:24 | |
| kanzure_ | There was a big list going last Saturday. | 20:25 |
| * bkero raps his knuckles against fenn's head.. | 20:25 | |
| bkero | fenn: You should walk into C-money's office and break out some rap. | 20:25 |
| kanzure_ | Anyway, for mechanical contact methods, what are some good assumptions to make? | 20:26 |
| kanzure_ | I don't know what characterizes breakability/burstability really. | 20:26 |
| fenn | mechanical contact is probably not very good for single cell algae | 20:26 |
| kanzure_ | for instance, I could make up arguments about the energies in the bonds between the atoms in the membrane, but that's not anywhere near true | 20:26 |
| kanzure_ | that's true, but I need to come up with something | 20:26 |
| kanzure_ | for the general categories. | 20:26 |
| fenn | we used a "pressure cell" i think it was.. you pump water at high pressure through a tiny orifice, the sudden pressure drop across the orifice bursts the cell | 20:27 |
| kanzure_ | yes, yes, pressure is also on the list alreaduy | 20:27 |
| kanzure_ | *already | 20:27 |
| kanzure_ | "A model of neuronal bursting using three coupled first order differential equations" surely this implies a reference to a more general paper? | 20:28 |
| xp_prg | kanzure I did some work on biobench, is it ok if I use google app engine, it is free and works with python which is perfect for using sybioss code | 20:28 |
| fenn | bursting could mean a zillion different things | 20:28 |
| kanzure | xp_prg: What are you talking about? | 20:28 |
| xp_prg | biobench implementation software | 20:29 |
| kanzure_ | fenn: Ah, yes, bursting => action potential bursting :/ | 20:29 |
| kanzure | xp_prg: I don't want anything dependent on Google unless you can disconnect from the internet and it still works. | 20:29 |
| kanzure | if you're http'ing over to google, that's failure. | 20:29 |
| xp_prg | ok, google app engine will work without google | 20:30 |
| kanzure | is it a javascript download? | 20:30 |
| xp_prg | no it is a very powerful cloud computing offering from google | 20:30 |
| xp_prg | just google for it | 20:30 |
| kanzure | what the fuck | 20:30 |
| kanzure | that would require google | 20:30 |
| xp_prg | it hosts web apps | 20:30 |
| kanzure | " Provides the possibility for developers to host theirs web application on the company's servers." | 20:30 |
| kanzure | yeah, that's failure | 20:30 |
| kanzure | don't do it. | 20:30 |
| xp_prg | no the engine itself can run without it! | 20:30 |
| xp_prg | :( | 20:31 |
| willPow3r | failure == gau | 20:31 |
| willPow3r | gay* | 20:31 |
| xp_prg | hahah will | 20:31 |
| xp_prg | kanzure but it can run without google man! | 20:31 |
| fenn | is it just me, or is the intelligence level of the room falling steadily? | 20:31 |
| kanzure | No, I've noticed it too. | 20:32 |
| xp_prg | kanzure just trust me it works without google it will be ok | 20:32 |
| kanzure | Then why are you asking me? | 20:32 |
| xp_prg | just keeping you in the loop is all :> | 20:32 |
| kanzure | " The Breakdown of Cell Membranes by Electrical and Mechanical Stress" <- Aha. | 20:32 |
| xp_prg | kanzure did you read in Sci Am about causing neurons to fire with light?! | 20:33 |
| kanzure | " Electric field-induced breakdown of lipid bilayers and cell membranes: A thin viscoelastic film ..." <- Excellent. | 20:33 |
| kanzure | xp_prg: Yes. | 20:33 |
| xp_prg | that rocked!!!! | 20:33 |
| kanzure | Optogenetics has been around forever though :-) | 20:33 |
| kanzure | Ed Boyden does a lot of that. | 20:33 |
| kanzure | Our labs do too. | 20:33 |
| kanzure | I find this ridiculously awesome: http://jcs.biologists.org/cgi/content/full/114/11/2009 "life without a cell membrane". | 20:54 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/Life_without_a_cell_membrane.pdf | 20:57 |
| fenn | woah.. it's like fluowen | 20:57 |
| kanzure | ? | 20:57 |
| kanzure | No definitions were found for fluowen. | 20:57 |
| fenn | er, flouwen | 20:57 |
| kanzure | " Light-induced changes in membrane potential in Spirogyra" | 20:57 |
| kanzure | dependent on the amount of chloroplast in the cell. Fun. | 20:58 |
| fenn | no-javascript pulldown menus: http://www.grc.com/menudemo.htm | 21:07 |
| kanzure | for 80 micrometers^3 solution of of erythrocytes, with some unknown molarity, it takes about 3.25kV/cm to rupture the bastards. | 21:11 |
| kanzure | (for the records: http://www.biophysj.org/cgi/reprint/14/11/881.pdf ) | 21:11 |
| kanzure | page 888 table 1 | 21:11 |
| fenn | i'd wager the voltage/distance is the defining characteristic | 21:12 |
| fenn | you can probably increase the field concentration with tiny conductive needles | 21:12 |
| kanzure | 3.25 kV for 80 um^3 is not good. | 21:12 |
| kanzure | what's the rule of thumb, diesel engines are 80% efficient? | 21:13 |
| kanzure | with some sort of kV output that I forget. Bah. Back to searching. | 21:13 |
| fenn | hmm 80 um^3 = 80 femtoliter | 21:14 |
| fenn | generally higher voltages are more efficient, but diesel is like 25% efficient at most | 21:15 |
| kanzure | that's reason to cry. | 21:15 |
| kanzure | higher voltages are more efficient? | 21:15 |
| fenn | i dont really see what volume has to do with the process | 21:15 |
| kanzure | What the fuck have I been learning in these years of electronics classes | 21:15 |
| kanzure | presumably volume means there's more cells. | 21:15 |
| fenn | higher voltage = less current for the same power; power dissipation goes as the square of current | 21:16 |
| fenn | no i mean, why the fuck are they even mentioning the volume | 21:16 |
| kanzure | what I want is per cell, it's true, but they might be doing something 'special' with their setup. like not counting their cells. | 21:17 |
| fenn | uf. dielectric breakdown doesn't mean what you think it does | 21:17 |
| fenn | hmm.. i read some old cranky stuff about sending electricity into a diseased area at the resonant frequency of the bacteria/parasites, and this would 'pop' them | 21:19 |
| kanzure | so, | 21:20 |
| kanzure | since each membrane has a 'membrane potential' value that we can measure, would my equation involve that variable to determine the voltage I'd need to kill it? | 21:21 |
| fenn | what do you mean "membrane potential"? | 21:22 |
| kanzure | There was this awesome page in a medical terminology text I shelf that talked about a form of "therapy" where they electrocute the hell out of a diseased area. | 21:22 |
| kanzure | Voltage across the membrane = membrane potential | 21:22 |
| kanzure | No? | 21:22 |
| fenn | ok | 21:22 |
| fenn | in bacteria this is typicalle about 1.2V or so | 21:22 |
| fenn | usually less | 21:23 |
| fenn | i'm picturing something like two nanotube forests intermingling, (one is upside down) and small droplets of water suspended in the oil pass by and make a breakdown path between the nanotubes | 21:25 |
| fenn | but this just seems too high tech | 21:26 |
| kanzure | Agreed. | 21:26 |
| fenn | what was wrong with thermal depolymerization? | 21:27 |
| kanzure | Is 'electroporation' enough? The techniques that labists were using to transfer DNA into cells. Would they expel their lipids at the same time? That sounds counterintuitive .. if DNA is going to be transferred, they want to keep energy caches. | 21:27 |
| kanzure | I don't care what's wrong with it .. I'm attempting to be all good about this and do a direct comparison of the models for the members of the list. | 21:28 |
| fenn | electroporation is brutal, most of the cells die | 21:28 |
| kanzure | 'cell lysis' is another phrase that has just turned up in a result .. should have been more obvious to use that. | 21:28 |
| kanzure | ' Automatic spark gap control for spark source mass spectrometry ' <-- there's a spark gap spectrometer method? | 21:29 |
| fenn | emission spectroscopy | 21:29 |
| fenn | um, yeah | 21:30 |
| fenn | and plasma desorption | 21:30 |
| kanzure | ' Reagentless mechanical cell lysis by nanoscale barbs in microchannels for sample preparation' http://biopoems.berkeley.edu/publications/DiCarlo-mechanical-LabChip2003.pdf ... almost your nano-electrocution method. | 21:30 |
| fenn | but better since it doesnt need electricity | 21:31 |
| kanzure | 'barbs' on that scale can rupture membranes? That doesn't sound right -- it's always been my understanding that the smaller things are, the less likely things are going to be ruptured by much of anything. I.e., the bigger bubble will surely burst, but as you scale it down, the "sharp tip" is increasingly losing relative "sharpness". | 21:32 |
| kanzure | 'integrated in microfluidic channels'. Oh crap. Was hoping that read 'implemented in microfluidic channels'. | 21:33 |
| fenn | well looks like it works | 21:33 |
| fenn | what was wrong with thermal depolymerization? | 21:35 |
| kanzure | nanospheres with nanobarb spikes? | 21:35 |
| kanzure | I didn't say anything was wrong with it | 21:35 |
| kanzure | gah | 21:35 |
| kanzure | Are you not listening? | 21:35 |
| kanzure | I don't care what's wrong with it .. I'm attempting to be all good about this and do a direct comparison of the models for the members of the list. | 21:35 |
| fenn | ok, it's just.. the most straightforward way to skin a cat is to cut the skin off it | 21:35 |
| kanzure | with a boiler? | 21:36 |
| fenn | yeah basically you pressure cook whatever and it turns into oil, salts, and some dissolved gases | 21:37 |
| fenn | 300C for 15 mins | 21:37 |
| kanzure | of course, you'd want constant flow, so what's the energy requirements on boiling? | 21:37 |
| fenn | theoretically zero, practically i have no idea | 21:38 |
| kanzure | okay, so just assume initial investment energy in boiling will be made up | 21:38 |
| kanzure | and then just worry about thermal heat dissipation | 21:38 |
| fenn | or maybe half the energy required to raise water to 300C | 21:38 |
| fenn | also, it doesnt boil since it's under pressure | 21:38 |
| kanzure | especially with respect to heat dissipation of any specimen you take out | 21:38 |
| kanzure | pressurized systems. fun stuff .. | 21:39 |
| kanzure | Need to run. | 21:39 |
| fenn | maybe just a couple coils of stainless tubing would work | 21:40 |
| -!- splicer is now known as Splicer | 22:41 | |
| -!- Splicer is now known as splicer_sleeping | 22:41 | |
| bkero | Hm | 23:11 |
| bkero | So if you chop off the top half of a rat except for it's spinal cord and soak the leftovers in neurotransmitters, the legs kick. | 23:12 |
| kanzure | bkero: Working late in the lab? | 23:22 |
| bkero | kanzure: Heh | 23:23 |
| bkero | I work at google right now | 23:23 |
| bkero | Back to the lab in January | 23:23 |
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