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kanzure | How's xp_prg's work going ? | 00:00 |
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splicer | it seems to me Austin Texas is the transhumanist mecca | 00:00 |
kanzure | Bay Area is the most sacred .. that's where everyone is. That or Boston. | 00:01 |
splicer | hehe | 00:02 |
splicer | googling 'boston transhumanist' the first entry is a video by wrldpc | 00:04 |
splicer | small world | 00:04 |
wrldpc | no shit | 00:04 |
splicer | fact! | 00:05 |
kanzure | Splicer: Smaller than you might suspect. I get recognized at a Make Faire more than I recognize other people. | 00:05 |
splicer | we'll you're kindof famous | 00:05 |
wrldpc | So Alec Resnick from nublabs is in Austin for MAKE? | 00:05 |
wrldpc | That's cool. | 00:05 |
kanzure | wrldpc: Yes, Alec's there. | 00:05 |
wrldpc | Yeah you're a legend, Bry. | 00:05 |
kanzure | We had our awkward moment together. | 00:05 |
wrldpc | he sold you a hard drive? | 00:06 |
kanzure | "Yeah Bryan, I'm Alec. Alec Resnick." "Oh fuck." "yeah." "So the hard drive is in the mail?" "Yep." | 00:06 |
kanzure | No, I'm just dumping shit on it. | 00:06 |
wrldpc | Is any of this stuff from Convergence 08 up yet? | 00:06 |
kanzure | this? | 00:06 |
wrldpc | I mean | 00:06 |
wrldpc | not C | 00:06 |
kanzure | Splicer: What do you mean by famous, or wlrdpc, how am I legend if I haven't actually done anything? | 00:07 |
wrldpc | uh, the Singularity Summit | 00:07 |
wrldpc | No, it's what you're doing. | 00:07 |
kanzure | Sitting around yelling at everyone? :-) | 00:07 |
wrldpc | heh | 00:07 |
wrldpc | yes. | 00:07 |
wrldpc | compiling data. | 00:07 |
splicer | Kanz: your tracks are everywhere | 00:08 |
wrldpc | mwahahaha | 00:08 |
wrldpc | I need to make songs about this stuff. I'm largely useless. | 00:09 |
splicer | hehe: wrldpc: I whish I could do what you do | 00:09 |
wrldpc | ha | 00:10 |
wrldpc | don't flatter me! :P | 00:10 |
wrldpc | but thanks. | 00:10 |
wrldpc | oh yeah wait | 00:10 |
wrldpc | wish you could do what I do .. | 00:10 |
wrldpc | you mean nothing substantial? | 00:10 |
wrldpc | it's actually VERY EASY. | 00:10 |
splicer | there is a sort of laid back art thing you do | 00:11 |
splicer | is kanz doing anything substanisal? | 00:12 |
splicer | hehehe | 00:12 |
kanzure | Somebody tell xp_prg that http://bloodgate.com/graph-easy/ already uses javascript/ajax/prototype and just needs to be wired into the backend synbioss stuff. | 00:16 |
kanzure | It would be a simple task to just edit it such that nodes are given some extra information like 'type' or something. The disply format sent to the graphviz backend is just dia/dot format, but there can be extra information that the user client state has for the design/system such as the 'type' for the node of course. | 00:17 |
kanzure | wget -p fails to get javascritp requisites for a page. | 00:21 |
kanzure | /cgi-bin/graph/graph-easy-render <-- Any ideas on what this is? It's somewhere on the bloodgate.com server. | 00:28 |
kanzure | I'm sure it's somehow using Graph::Easy from CPAN, but that's not the encapsulating script there. | 00:29 |
kanzure | http://search.cpan.org/~tels/Graph-Easy/bin/graph-easy | 00:29 |
fenn | splicer: is anyone doing anything substantial? | 00:29 |
kanzure | No. | 00:29 |
kanzure | http://bloodgate.com/cgi-bin/graph/graph-easy-render <-- huh, shows an output without actually sending it anything | 00:30 |
kanzure | Looks like it's just generating HTML output of a graph. Hrm. Maybe it's just Graph::Easy set in HTML output mode. | 00:30 |
kanzure | i.e., as http://bloodgate.com/graph-demo/ | 00:31 |
kanzure | bug on graph-easy with the edge-adder; needs to allow you to select the nodes that you want to create edges to (if that was something that is to be allowed of course ..) | 00:34 |
kanzure | Instead of forcing you to type it in, I mean. | 00:35 |
kanzure | more bugs: https://mailman.research.att.com/pipermail/graphviz-interest/2007q3/004721.html | 00:37 |
splicer | fenn: I noticed when I said that that maybe I should have shut up. It has to do with an old discussion with kanz about how maybe it's better to do one thing well and finish it than many many things concurrently. | 00:41 |
fenn | except "and finish it" means it becomes your career and you have no life | 00:43 |
splicer | not finishing things can be that too | 00:43 |
fenn | sure | 00:43 |
kanzure | Splicer: I didn't answer you because when you asked whether or not I'm doing anything substantial it reminded me to go do Stuff. | 00:44 |
kanzure | fenn: Steve suggested I try to get gene playing chess, since that's a situation where you need some sufficiently broad overview of the possibility space before you make your move. Of course, that might not work since I didn't understand that when I started playing (I was more focused on actually making moves, and didn't discover the point to strategizing until later.) | 00:45 |
kanzure | Was Firefox's tools for debugging javascript ever able to capture AJAX requests? | 00:47 |
kanzure | Hrm, maybe there's something built into prototype just for this purpose. | 00:47 |
kanzure | Huh, so according to graph.js there's just a direct request in Graph_update_graph() with 'code' being sent over to the perl script (don't know what the 'postfix' variable is doing there); | 00:58 |
kanzure | there's also a parser above that chunk of code for parsing the request .. which is just some chomp()ing / formatting fixes that are directly written to the page (HTML or SVG stuffs, etc.) | 00:58 |
kanzure | if we wanted to be jerks we could just wire this in directly to partsregistry.org's Dsomethingsomething output service but I don't recall there being much information there | 01:04 |
kanzure | where is synbioss getting its modeling information from? | 01:04 |
kanzure | They're doing various ODEs, such as on that biomodelwiki page that I linked to once before, but that information isn't readily available from partsregistry.org :-/ | 01:05 |
xp_prg | kanzure what is up with the project page? | 01:47 |
kanzure | Hrm. | 01:59 |
kanzure | Huh. Wrong username. | 01:59 |
-!- kanzure is now known as kanzure_ | 01:59 | |
drazak | kanzure_1_: you here? | 02:34 |
kanzure | Heh. I wonder for how long I would have tried brctl, bridge-utils, ipmasq, and friends with the wrong type of ethernet wire. | 03:13 |
kanzure | (Not that anything's working with the right ethernet cabling anyway though.) | 03:13 |
kanzure | Server should be back up later tonight. | 04:13 |
kanzure | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/3218944/Japans-young-turn-to-Communist-Party-as-they-decide-capitalism-has-let-them-down.html <-- I like how everyone misses all of the real issues in this article. | 04:17 |
-!- mindspillage is now known as mind|wandering | 05:24 | |
kanzure | "Spatio-temporal electrical stimuli shape behavior of an embodied cortical network in a goal-directed learning task" | 14:06 |
kanzure | http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2559979 | 14:07 |
kanzure | http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0003355 Granger causality between spiking neurons | 14:09 |
kanzure | "Causal Measures of Structure and Plasticity in Simulated and Living Neural Networks" <-- DeMarse's group. | 14:10 |
* drazak sits on kanzure until he gives him nature molbio and nature biochem | 14:35 | |
nsh_ | hmmm | 14:40 |
-!- nsh_ is now known as nsh | 14:40 | |
nsh | kanzure, what real issues in the japanese-students->communism article? | 14:41 |
kanzure | How undefined 'jobs' are in the first place. The young Japanese guys go to their communist parties after they realize that the current policies suck. So they band together with communism? As if the inherent nature of "communist" policies won't turn out to suck as much too? | 14:43 |
* nsh nods | 14:44 | |
nsh | regardless of the degree to which the other camp's prospects are inherently better, the very act of migration from the prevailing regieme has a destabalising influence that is a necessary precursor to the precipitation of novel solutions | 14:47 |
nsh | *regime | 14:47 |
nsh | you have to pull apart the lego bricks before you can build a new model | 14:47 |
nsh | so it's not necessary the final result of these people's adoption of communist policies that is important | 14:48 |
nsh | but the flux in transition between the two dogma | 14:48 |
kanzure | Meh. I thought the Japanese were smarter than this. | 14:49 |
nsh | the deconstructionary period allows for the import of new ideas | 14:49 |
* nsh smiels | 14:49 | |
nsh | *smiles | 14:49 |
nsh | read: http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=17756068 | 14:49 |
kanzure | http://flickr.com/photos/steevithak/sets/72157608138769364/ Austin Maker Faire photos | 15:01 |
kanzure | Somebody please ping heybryan.org and check to see that the IP is not 66.112.232.108. | 15:13 |
drazak | nope, .98 | 15:14 |
kanzure | Yay. | 15:14 |
kanzure | Okay. | 15:14 |
kanzure | Server is back up. | 15:14 |
kanzure | Mostly. There's a few things I haven't done yet. But there's 400 GB of extra data on it now. | 15:15 |
drazak | including nature molbio/biochem? | 15:24 |
kanzure | Not as such. I just have a giant dir of (most of?) all Nature papers. | 15:25 |
drazak | :o | 15:26 |
drazak | linksies | 15:26 |
kanzure | This will take forever to load: http://localhost/nature/ | 15:27 |
kanzure | blah | 15:27 |
kanzure | http://heybryan.org/nature/ | 15:27 |
kanzure | 122,000 papers, so the indexing process sucks. | 15:28 |
drazak | how big's the dir? | 15:28 |
kanzure | 8 MB. | 15:28 |
kanzure | 8 MB index, 40 GB of papers. | 15:28 |
kanzure | Yay it just started loading for me. | 15:29 |
drazak | that's no fun, they're not by actual paper issh | 15:30 |
drazak | :S | 15:30 |
drazak | s/issh/issue/ | 15:30 |
kanzure | I don't see YOU stealing nature. | 15:30 |
drazak | ? | 15:31 |
drazak | I'd steal it | 15:31 |
-!- nsh_ is now known as nsh | 15:46 | |
kanzure | http://bloodgate.com/graph-easy-beta/ | 15:48 |
kanzure | k. got it. | 15:52 |
kanzure | http://heybryan.org/graph/ | 15:53 |
UtopiahGHML | The graph-easy AJAX interface failed to load properly. | 15:54 |
UtopiahGHML | Please enable Javascript and reload the page. | 15:54 |
kanzure | blah | 15:54 |
kanzure | http://heybryan.org/graph/tels.zip (dir now shows) | 15:54 |
ybit | http://www.smartmobs.com/2008/10/15/lecture-videos-run-on-fast-forward/ -- heh, didn't know so many did this, i thought i was one of the few | 17:04 |
UtopiahGHML | :) | 17:06 |
* nsh isn't clevel enough | 17:26 | |
elias` | mplayer -af scaletempo ftw | 17:26 |
nsh | to spell | 17:26 |
kanzure | " But the students say they can absorb the information faster than the professors deliver it." <--- Yay. | 17:27 |
elias` | it's weird only like debian-multimedia's version seems to have the filter though | 17:27 |
kanzure | We possibly have a deal with Chris Sypolt with http://onlinemetals.com/ | 17:28 |
kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThyssenKrupp | 17:30 |
kanzure | Ah. " ThyssenKrupp is one of the world's largest steel producers." | 17:30 |
kanzure | And onlinemetals.com is the best they can do? | 17:30 |
kanzure | I was talking with Chris and he's excited about the B2B ebXML stuff. I offered my services to him, to do it freely and quickly, and he does want to go through with it, though it sounds like they were resistant to my offer. | 17:30 |
kanzure | ' As of 2008 25.01% of the company shares are held by the Alfried Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach Foundation.' | 17:31 |
kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfried_Krupp_von_Bohlen_und_Halbach | 17:31 |
elias` | I think it might be worth it to design and manufacture a mobile device that had something like these: OMAP3530 and FPGA for reconfigurable computing. Also internal HSDPA, GPS, (digital?) video input that is possibly split to HD encoder/recorder and AR processing, maybe digital video output, some wifi probably and bluetooth | 17:31 |
kanzure | ' often referred to as Alfried Krupp, was a member of the 400-year Krupp dynasty of industrialists in Germany, and head of the Krupp company, which is now part of ThyssenKrupp, during World War II. ' | 17:31 |
elias` | Pandora sells for ?200 and has many of the features, with only an initial batch of 3000 units | 17:31 |
kanzure | elias`: You refer to "the ultimate connection configurator." | 17:31 |
kanzure | Everyone always wants to make the ultimate 'port' system. USB + RS232 + RCJ45 + LTP + firewire + .. etc. | 17:32 |
elias` | yeah. :p | 17:33 |
kanzure | Not that I'm stopping you. | 17:33 |
kanzure | I wonder what the difference between an 'industrialist' and 'capitalist' is. | 17:33 |
kanzure | Is there an 'industrialism'? Hrm. On Wikipedia, 'industrialist' redirects to 'Business magnate'. | 17:33 |
kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Businesspeople_in_mining | 17:34 |
kanzure | How many of these are not dead? Yes, I know, semantic mediawiki would answer this for me. Blah. | 17:34 |
UtopiahGHML | http://seedea.free.fr/share/ebooks.txt | 17:34 |
UtopiahGHML | anybody want 1 book from the collection ? 5min before deletion | 17:34 |
kanzure | Yes. | 17:35 |
kanzure | All of it. | 17:35 |
kanzure | Size? | 17:35 |
UtopiahGHML | all of 1 book, good idea, which one? | 17:35 |
kanzure | No, all of the books. | 17:35 |
UtopiahGHML | well my pipe can't handle it, 15ko/s upload or so | 17:36 |
UtopiahGHML | it's 3Gb total | 17:36 |
kanzure | I can handle that. | 17:36 |
UtopiahGHML | 4min left | 17:37 |
kanzure | UtopiahGHML: Why are you removing it? | 17:37 |
UtopiahGHML | light traveler philosophy, being zen and minimalist | 17:37 |
UtopiahGHML | ok, no request? | 17:42 |
kanzure | UtopiahGHML: Maybe the Leibniz collection. | 17:54 |
UtopiahGHML | http://seedea.free.fr/share/Leibniz,%20Gottfried%20Wilhelm.tar | 17:59 |
kanzure | I'm getting 100 KB/sec. | 18:02 |
kanzure | Okay, 30. | 18:02 |
nsh_ | what is it, UtopiahGHML? | 18:03 |
kanzure | Leibniz papers. | 18:03 |
nsh_ | Leibniz's complete works? | 18:03 |
nsh_ | ah | 18:03 |
kanzure | Hah. | 18:03 |
nsh_ | in english? | 18:03 |
kanzure | No, not his complete works. | 18:03 |
nsh_ | pft, work harder | 18:03 |
nsh_ | :-) | 18:03 |
kanzure | Leibniz is me hero. | 18:04 |
* nsh_ smiles | 18:04 | |
kanzure | Leibniz must have been an Asimov. Asimov would wake at six and not stop writing until midnight, when he would proceed to sleep and begin the cycle once more. | 18:06 |
kanzure | However this makes me wonder how it gave Leibniz time to think. | 18:06 |
-!- marcel_qo9h is now known as marcel | 18:08 | |
* nsh_ does his best thinking while writing | 18:09 | |
nsh_ | which is why i try to do as little of it as possible. | 18:09 |
nsh_ | one you start giving a trestle to your musings, you'll have a damnable garden in no time | 18:09 |
kanzure | Has anyone noticed how unused folders often are? | 18:14 |
kanzure | I always find it facinating to find somebody who has a lot of folders of really interesting things. | 18:14 |
kanzure | In the majority of cases, people with computers hardly have files to keep track of at all in the first place, which is unfortunate. | 18:14 |
kanzure | Okay. Enough complaining from me .. time to get back to work. | 18:15 |
kanzure | " Exmocare wristwatch .. physiological monitoring.. send alerts to loved ones via SMS, email, or instant messaging" (CPAN is installing Graph::Easy, so give me a break ;-) | 18:21 |
-!- splicer_ is now known as splicer | 18:22 | |
kanzure | it works: http://heybryan.org/graph/bloodgate.com/graph-easy/ | 18:34 |
kanzure | Don't forget to chmod the damn script. | 18:34 |
UtopiahGHML | ok, "To Digest" folder cleaned :) | 18:36 |
kanzure | Any digestable "To Digest" folder is definitively far, far too small. | 18:37 |
UtopiahGHML | that's why I deleted it | 18:38 |
kanzure | This is annoying. | 18:42 |
kanzure | The synbioss web service has no src download linkage. | 18:42 |
kanzure | http://neptune.cems.umn.edu/designer/interface1.php | 18:44 |
kanzure | http://www.cems.umn.edu/research/kaznessis/ | 18:46 |
kanzure | Yiannis@cems.umn.edu | 18:47 |
kanzure | Phone: 612-624-4197 | 18:47 |
kanzure | http://www.cems.umn.edu/about/people/facdetail.php?cemsid=20274 | 18:48 |
* kanzure is uberstalker | 18:49 | |
kanzure | http://www.cems.umn.edu/~yiannis/ | 18:49 |
splicer | that the recession is going to produce a shitload of really good manga and other art? | 18:50 |
kanzure | Ooh. | 18:50 |
UtopiahGHML | splicer: as in everybody become Otaku because virtual life is cheaper than real life? | 18:51 |
* kanzure is listening to Animeinforadio at the moment. | 18:51 | |
kanzure | Argh. Animenfo radio. | 18:51 |
kanzure | Anyway. I really hate this yiannis fellow so far. | 18:51 |
kanzure | Do we have any umn goons? | 18:51 |
kanzure | http://neptune.cems.umn.edu/designer/interface.js | 18:53 |
kanzure | http://neptune.cems.umn.edu/designer/tutorial1.html | 18:54 |
UtopiahGHML | http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/david_perry_on_videogames.html TED Talks David Perry: Will videogames become better than life? | 18:55 |
kanzure | Aha. | 18:57 |
kanzure | http://neptune.cems.umn.edu/misc/ | 18:57 |
splicer | Who was it that said the holodeck will be mans last invention? | 18:58 |
splicer | Scott Adams I think | 18:58 |
UtopiahGHML | for most WoW is enough | 18:59 |
UtopiahGHML | generations of potential philosopher and scientists are fucking up their life right now :) | 18:59 |
UtopiahGHML | leveling up! :-# | 18:59 |
splicer | I don't know.. maybe it's one of those things that the people in the culture like in another generation don't get. | 19:00 |
kanzure | UtopiahGHML: "And more, I would say that the so-called virtual realities are misnamed: they should be called something like "simulated experiences." Because they aren't real, and can never be so, any more than a map can be the territory." | 19:00 |
kanzure | "And more, for the same reason that a map is necessarily less detailed than the territory that it describes, a virtual reality can only ever be a pale shadow of the real thing. Such constructs might prove amusing, or even useful and illuminating, but how could they ever take the place of the essential reality that they represent?" | 19:01 |
splicer | Dunno, there is sci-fi and manga too | 19:01 |
UtopiahGHML | Serial Experiment Lain | 19:01 |
splicer | A videogame can be a good tool to express creativity | 19:02 |
UtopiahGHML | sure, Im actually trying to make my own video game | 19:02 |
* kanzure is a veteran game programmer. | 19:02 | |
kanzure | (I feel old.) | 19:02 |
UtopiahGHML | http://seedea.free.fr/wiki/index.php?n=Oimp.TheHealthVoyage | 19:02 |
procto | make a map as large as a territory, and it becomes a territory | 19:03 |
kanzure | It becomes _a_ territory, but never the original. | 19:03 |
procto | most tertainly | 19:03 |
kanzure | UtopiahGHML: Ah, a web-based game. | 19:03 |
UtopiahGHML | kanzure: yep, I believe you can do a lot with the web now | 19:04 |
procto | but virtual reality certainly* | 19:04 |
kanzure | I used to do those too. I had this stupid "Anime Universe" website with half a thousand members at one point. The goal was to become the strongest in the universe. ;-) | 19:04 |
procto | but VR doesn't try to make the original | 19:04 |
kanzure | I hated it back then and I hate it now. Web-based RPGs are teh suck. Go back to nethack please. | 19:04 |
kanzure | procto: The problem is how easily people can be confused. "Hey, look! It looks like the real thing, it's just as interactive, so what's the big deal?" Meanwhile, the infrastructure fails and crumbles in reality, .. etc. | 19:05 |
* UtopiahGHML doesn't want to enter another virtual/real debate | 19:05 | |
UtopiahGHML | simulation-argument.com | 19:06 |
UtopiahGHML | (Nick Bostrom) | 19:06 |
splicer | It's a forver debate | 19:08 |
kanzure | Simulation-argument.com is just about our universe being simulated, that's not what we're talking about. | 19:10 |
UtopiahGHML | anybody going to Convergence08 ? | 19:10 |
kanzure | Hrm. | 19:10 |
kanzure | Remind me of the time? | 19:10 |
UtopiahGHML | 15-16nov | 19:10 |
kanzure | Hrm. It's a weekend. | 19:12 |
kanzure | I can make it. I'm still deciding whether or not to go. | 19:12 |
UtopiahGHML | better decide in less than 30hours else it's 50bucks extra | 19:13 |
kanzure | What the fuck, entry fees? | 19:13 |
UtopiahGHML | yup | 19:14 |
UtopiahGHML | http://www.convergence08.org/register/ | 19:14 |
splicer | (I wonder if Pen and Teller will go) | 19:17 |
UtopiahGHML | in SF months ago Ive seen an expo on the Info-Bio-Nano-Cogno church :) | 19:17 |
UtopiahGHML | in an art exhib | 19:17 |
kanzure | So it would cost me at least $350 roundtrip, and that's only if there's somebody in San Jose willing to bunk me. Jef will I guess. | 19:18 |
UtopiahGHML | does your future worth it? | 19:25 |
UtopiahGHML | :) | 19:25 |
kanzure | What? | 19:25 |
kanzure | I went up to BioBarCamp earlier this year and it was indeed worth it. There were more transhumans packed in there than they cared to admit. | 19:26 |
UtopiahGHML | was in the Bay Area? | 19:27 |
kanzure | Yes. | 19:27 |
UtopiahGHML | kind of the place for transhumanists | 19:27 |
kanzure | UtopiahGHML: I was living with them. ;-) | 19:27 |
UtopiahGHML | been to burning man already? | 19:28 |
kanzure | Nah. I'll get to that eventually. | 19:28 |
facefaceface | where should I upload my lectures | 20:07 |
facefaceface | ? | 20:07 |
facefaceface | which site? | 20:07 |
UtopiahGHML | videolectures.net | 20:08 |
facefaceface | ty | 20:14 |
splicer | That is a really good site. I hadn't seen that before. | 20:35 |
UtopiahGHML | really good indeed | 20:35 |
UtopiahGHML | even if they don't *)&%& provide RSS feeds | 20:35 |
UtopiahGHML | (been asking them for 2 years by email, *&^&*^*(ing saying they would do it) | 20:35 |
splicer | There is that old cyberpunk proverb "Information wants to be free". It's very true. I'm still amazed by the fact that lectures from say Berkely and MIT are online... and the books on torrents. | 20:41 |
UtopiahGHML | Stanford too, INSEAD too, etc... yep | 20:42 |
UtopiahGHML | well Berkeley it's "supposed" to be ;) | 20:43 |
UtopiahGHML | Wharton too | 20:43 |
UtopiahGHML | amazing resources for free | 20:43 |
splicer | yeah, the best courses on those topics in the world. | 20:43 |
splicer | + having accesss to the videocasts is better than actually being there | 20:44 |
splicer | hmm. It seems Stanford keeps their lectures on iTunes. | 21:01 |
kanzure | http://heybryan.org/bioreactor/ Enjoy. | 21:13 |
* kanzure was just reading over the microencapsulation paper. | 21:13 | |
kanzure | Microalgae immobilization - Current techniques and uses.pdf | 21:21 |
kanzure | Hrm, that's not a bad one. | 21:26 |
fenn | ah no wonder mplayer sucked so much.. somehow i "upgraded" to the official lenny version that was missing x264 codec | 22:17 |
fenn | (of course it would just crash instead of saying so) | 22:18 |
drazak | hmph | 22:19 |
drazak | I need someone to do bioinformatics for me | 22:19 |
fenn | hire a university :) | 22:20 |
drazak | lol | 22:20 |
kanzure | oh fuck where'd my wiki go | 22:23 |
facefaceface | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=855606311301659628 | 22:23 |
fenn | is it just me or is maker's faire == american anime con? | 22:24 |
kanzure | anime? | 22:24 |
fenn | you know, robots with swords and lasers n stuff | 22:24 |
fenn | http://flickr.com/photos/steevithak/2951204307/in/set-72157608138769364/ | 22:25 |
fenn | moose trap | 22:25 |
kanzure | The R2 group was right next to Vern's setup :-) | 22:26 |
kanzure | Paul has finally figured out his linux setup for his cnc router, that was pretty neat | 22:26 |
kanzure | I was glad to see that he had figured out how to hack through that proprietary protocol | 22:26 |
fenn | i guess "wonderfest" would be more similar | 22:29 |
kanzure | it was weird seeing how much O'Reilly pushed themselves | 22:29 |
fenn | who's oreilly? | 22:29 |
kanzure | everywhere you looked you could buy "Maker Faire Gear" -- shirts, kits, magazines, | 22:29 |
kanzure | wtf | 22:29 |
fenn | the publisher? | 22:30 |
kanzure | O'Reilly = the evil guys behind Make | 22:30 |
kanzure | yes | 22:30 |
kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/open-rtms/Eaton%20-%20Electric%20field%20induced%20in%20a%20spherical%20volume%20conductor%20from%20arbitrary%20coils:%20application%20to%20magnetic%20stimulation%20and%20MEG.pdf | 22:33 |
kanzure | "Electric field induced in a spherical volume conductor from arbitrary coils: application to magnetic stimulation and MEG". Brainways, a company evidently doing deep brain TMS, is essentially based off of some guy doing some line integrals in | 22:33 |
kanzure | Mathematica to figure out an optimized coil design for deep brain stimulation, with a ref to Eaton's model to figure out field shapes from coil geometries. | 22:33 |
kanzure | fenn, you see that from the other day? | 22:33 |
fenn | i didnt read the paper | 22:40 |
fenn | your link is full of unicode turds | 22:40 |
kanzure | copied it from pidgin logs, lemme check to see if it's in the logs themselves | 22:41 |
kanzure | yes they are | 22:41 |
-!- nsh_ is now known as nsh | 22:43 | |
kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/open-rtms/Eaton%20-%20Electric%20field%20induced%20in%20a%20spherical%20volume%20conductor%20from%20arbitrary%20coils:%20application%20to%20magnetic%20stimulation%20and%20MEG.pdf | 22:43 |
fenn | why dont they just use commercial field simulators such as used for radar or motor design? | 22:44 |
kanzure | such as? | 22:44 |
fenn | i dont know, google electromagnetic FEM | 22:46 |
fenn | hieroglyphics in the morning makes me grumpy | 22:47 |
kanzure | yay search terms http://www.ece.osu.edu/~volakis/Book/radlab/FEM_for_EM.html | 22:47 |
fenn | when dealing with messy starting conditions, trying to come up with an elegant analytical solution just seems kinda silly | 22:49 |
kanzure | also, "FPGA" rTMS designs were discussed with Steve the other night .. I think I mentioned this in here .. nevermind. | 22:58 |
fenn | elias`: check out beagleboard | 22:59 |
fenn | no FPGA, but it could be grafted onto the GPIO somehow | 23:00 |
kanzure | Somebody give me a good reason *not* to go to Convergence08. | 23:02 |
fenn | danger of being infected with the groupthink virus | 23:04 |
fenn | (i think you should go, fwiw) | 23:05 |
kanzure | I'm trying to find a reason not to go | 23:09 |
kanzure | on the down side, nothing ever gets done at these | 23:09 |
kanzure | only at hackathons (well, sort of) | 23:09 |
fenn | you could engage in high-bandwidth data exchange | 23:10 |
fenn | people are more motivated to write scripts to sort your porn collection if they have a copy | 23:11 |
fenn | s/porn/journal article/ | 23:11 |
kanzure | $330 roundtrip on the plane tickets. then $70 for the entry fee. | 23:12 |
kanzure | I wonder if there's the possibility of using lab money for this. | 23:20 |
bkero | Lab money for bkero's plane ticket and accomodations? | 23:25 |
bkero | 8) | 23:25 |
fenn | it's not so far-fetched | 23:26 |
fenn | heh "hybrid vigor institute" anyone wanna guess what their bias is? | 23:28 |
fenn | "ACCOUNT FOR INTANGIBLE COST, NOT VALUE" | 23:30 |
fenn | sigh.. revolution of lowered expectations strikes again | 23:31 |
pppk | hey bryan, do you have any media from SB4.0? | 23:54 |
kanzure | Not yet. | 23:57 |
pppk | you're expecting some? | 23:57 |
kanzure | Surely at least some flickr photos? | 23:58 |
pppk | meh, lame | 23:59 |
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