| --- Day changed Thu Nov 06 2008 | ||
| kanzure_ | Hi. | 00:47 |
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| fenn | why does skdb redirect to "HAGGER?????????"? | 02:01 |
| fenn | http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Skdb | 02:01 |
| gene_ | kanzure, you there? | 02:03 |
| gene_ | you want to drive the sonicator at a higher frequency? | 02:03 |
| gene_ | so someone was talking about an ultrasonic deathray the other day? | 02:05 |
| fenn | yikes | 02:06 |
| fenn | planar wave explosion reflected off a high density parabolic disc = bad news at the focal point | 02:07 |
| gene_ | kanzure told me someone built one | 02:07 |
| gene_ | and it worked | 02:07 |
| fenn | define "worked"? | 02:08 |
| kanzure_ | burned somebody's hand? | 02:08 |
| kanzure_ | What was that about, again? | 02:08 |
| fenn | converting compressed air to electricity for paint spraying robots | 02:08 |
| gene_ | link Kanzure? | 02:08 |
| fenn | via ultrasonics/piezo | 02:08 |
| kanzure_ | No link. | 02:08 |
| gene_ | and it set stuff on fire? | 02:09 |
| fenn | this was someone's top secret project (no longer top secret now that there's a patent i guess) | 02:09 |
| fenn | it set stuff on fire on accident sometimes | 02:09 |
| fenn | it's basically a high powered dog whistle | 02:09 |
| kanzure_ | :) | 02:10 |
| gene_ | and it had a parabolic dish that focused it? | 02:10 |
| fenn | no | 02:10 |
| fenn | that was me being random | 02:10 |
| fenn | hrm. so i guess i'll fix the weird redirect | 02:10 |
| gene_ | whoa disconnected there | 02:11 |
| kanzure_ | Anyway, we have an acre with at least two 2500 sq foot plots at Brackenridge Field Labs. | 02:11 |
| kanzure_ | plus green house. | 02:11 |
| fenn | "For great justice and epic lulz." bah | 02:11 |
| kanzure_ | What we need to do is submit the greenhouse to MTV for "pimp my greenhouse". Throw in a hammock and it'll be totally pimped out. | 02:11 |
| gene_ | so it was a device that converted compressed air to electricity via ultrasound for robots? | 02:12 |
| gene_ | how big are we scaling up to? | 02:12 |
| kanzure_ | At least 10,000 gallons. But the BFL greenhouse will be about 500 gallons. | 02:13 |
| gene_ | how big is that? | 02:13 |
| kanzure_ | 10,000 gallons is 1300 cubic feet. | 02:14 |
| gene_ | ok | 02:14 |
| gene_ | anyway so this secret ultrasonic thing could set stuff on fire like a deathray or not? | 02:15 |
| kanzure_ | Anyway, if the fluid dynamics ends up working out for the membraneless filter, then we're going to do a portable filtration system to wire up at the field lab. | 02:15 |
| gene_ | ok | 02:16 |
| fenn | gene_: it was more of a side effect than anything, but you could design an ultrasonic deathray if you wanted | 02:18 |
| kanzure_ | Have you emailed the ME302 parts yet? | 02:18 |
| gene_ | YES | 02:18 |
| kanzure_ | Including the front plate? | 02:18 |
| kanzure_ | The side plates, I mean. | 02:18 |
| fenn | the messerschmitt parts? | 02:18 |
| gene_ | the cover | 02:18 |
| gene_ | no | 02:18 |
| kanzure_ | I've seen some emails with the trigger sldprt file, but not the cover. | 02:18 |
| kanzure_ | Yeah, so email us what you have | 02:19 |
| kanzure_ | otherwise we can't really help you | 02:19 |
| gene_ | I did | 02:19 |
| kanzure_ | The cover? | 02:19 |
| gene_ | that's what I have | 02:19 |
| kanzure_ | You just said "no". | 02:19 |
| * fenn hides | 02:19 | |
| gene_ | I haven't even started on the cover | 02:20 |
| kanzure_ | OK, that's kinda important to tell us. | 02:20 |
| kanzure_ | The rest of us would have started on it .. | 02:20 |
| gene_ | oh wait | 02:20 |
| gene_ | I might have something | 02:20 |
| gene_ | I can't find a reference point to work with on the cover | 02:21 |
| kanzure_ | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/me302/project/ has the sldprt files, btw. | 02:23 |
| gene_ | ok | 02:23 |
| gene_ | so I would like to read up on that ultrasonic deathray | 02:24 |
| gene_ | do you have the logs? | 02:24 |
| kanzure_ | fenn has told you more than is in the logs | 02:24 |
| gene_ | ok | 02:24 |
| fenn | gene_: google site:linuxcnc.org fingerburner | 02:24 |
| fenn | you might want to grep USPTO | 02:25 |
| fenn | inventor: les watts, something like that | 02:26 |
| gene_ | dang | 02:26 |
| gene_ | you do cnc? | 02:26 |
| fenn | eh, *sulks* | 02:26 |
| kanzure_ | gene_: CNC plays a big part in most of our ideas, but sadly not a big role in our garages | 02:26 |
| gene_ | heh | 02:27 |
| fenn | i am too scatterbrained to finish any projects | 02:27 |
| gene_ | you could do cnc with legos if you really wanted to | 02:27 |
| fenn | suffice to say, the lathe servos are mounted, all that needs doing is the electronics | 02:27 |
| gene_ | heh | 02:28 |
| fenn | just visited IU robotics club tonight, looks like the new "leader" or whatever is fairly clueful (physics grad student) | 02:28 |
| gene_ | so it looks like this finger burner isn't a deathray | 02:32 |
| gene_ | it just gets hot | 02:32 |
| kanzure_ | I never said deathray. | 02:32 |
| fenn | you must admit that solid state electricity generation is cool | 02:33 |
| fenn | well, no moving parts at least | 02:33 |
| kanzure_ | Input? | 02:33 |
| fenn | compressed air | 02:33 |
| gene_ | ha | 02:34 |
| gene_ | thermoacoustic is cooler though | 02:34 |
| gene_ | probably much more efficient too | 02:35 |
| -!- kanzure_ changed the topic of #hplusroadmap to: no philosophy, and no talk about energy or efficiency without groundtruthing | 02:36 | |
| * kanzure_ will try to follow the new /topic | 02:36 | |
| gene_ | ok | 02:37 |
| gene_ | oh an kanzure | 02:37 |
| gene_ | you really don't want to adjust the frequency on the sonicator | 02:38 |
| kanzure_ | Yes I do. | 02:38 |
| kanzure_ | And decrease the wattage from 200 to 1. | 02:38 |
| kanzure_ | 02:38 | |
| kanzure_ | I suppose I should yes I would. | 02:38 |
| kanzure_ | There's a distinction between actually doing it and wanting to do it, and I'm not going to use it for that. | 02:38 |
| gene_ | no | 02:40 |
| gene_ | you really don't | 02:40 |
| gene_ | and can't | 02:40 |
| gene_ | the sonicator only works at it's resonant frequency | 02:40 |
| kanzure_ | Replace the crystal. | 02:41 |
| gene_ | or maybe multiples of such | 02:41 |
| gene_ | then you have to machine a new horn | 02:41 |
| gene_ | out of titanium | 02:42 |
| gene_ | oh yeah did I mention this: | 02:43 |
| gene_ | "SONICATOR Cell Disruptor can be used effectively as a tissue homogenizer and disintegrator. Its use is especially interesting on difficult tissue such as muscle and skin which cannot be disrupted easily by other methods. " | 02:45 |
| kanzure_ | That was in the packet. | 02:45 |
| gene_ | yeah | 02:45 |
| kanzure_ | I don't have a copy. | 02:45 |
| gene_ | so don't touch the sonicator | 02:46 |
| kanzure_ | I know what 200 watts means. | 02:46 |
| gene_ | unless you want to be homogenized | 02:46 |
| gene_ | Heck, this thing can even disrupt hair | 02:46 |
| gene_ | they also make the claim that it will break any cell or organism | 02:48 |
| gene_ | but then again | 02:48 |
| gene_ | they don't exist any more | 02:49 |
| gene_ | we also have to be real careful with it | 02:53 |
| fenn | what dont exist any more? | 02:55 |
| kanzure_ | "They" | 02:55 |
| gene_ | they got bought out | 02:55 |
| fenn | is "SONICATOR" some company name? i thought it was a generic tool description | 02:56 |
| gene_ | no | 02:56 |
| fenn | whew, well at least i dont have to worry about "them" anymore | 02:56 |
| gene_ | the sonicator also can't touch anything solid | 02:57 |
| fenn | maybe it would sound cooler if you called it a "disruptor" | 02:57 |
| gene_ | or else something very bad will happen | 02:57 |
| kanzure_ | fenn: I'm not a fan of this ambiguity either. | 02:57 |
| gene_ | it's a sonicator | 02:57 |
| gene_ | a sonicator can be used as a disruptor or any number of things | 02:58 |
| fenn | like stimulating cat nerves | 02:58 |
| gene_ | not this thing | 02:58 |
| gene_ | nerves and brain tissue are the easiest things to homogenize | 02:59 |
| fenn | what frequency does it run at? | 02:59 |
| gene_ | 20khz | 02:59 |
| fenn | oh right that works on cavitation | 03:00 |
| gene_ | it can also completely remove all the CO2 from beer within 30 seconds | 03:00 |
| fenn | fascinating | 03:01 |
| gene_ | yeah | 03:01 |
| fenn | can it blow bubbles? | 03:01 |
| gene_ | yeah | 03:01 |
| gene_ | lots | 03:01 |
| gene_ | lots of bubbles filled with nothing at all | 03:01 |
| kanzure_ | fenn: It wouldn't stimulate cat nerves at 20 kHz and 200 watts applied at the plane of intersection with the ultrasound. | 03:02 |
| gene_ | that expand and contract so fast they glow | 03:02 |
| fenn | kanzure_: naturally | 03:02 |
| kanzure_ | Rather it would homogenize. | 03:02 |
| kanzure_ | fenn: Okay. Just making sure. | 03:02 |
| gene_ | oh yeah | 03:02 |
| kanzure_ | We seem to be talking about one too many things here. | 03:02 |
| kanzure_ | I'm leaving. | 03:02 |
| gene_ | one important thing kanzure | 03:02 |
| gene_ | don't cross the streams | 03:02 |
| gene_ | ! | 03:02 |
| kanzure_ | Which streams? | 03:02 |
| fenn | << and >> | 03:03 |
| gene_ | I have to leave now | 03:03 |
| kanzure_ | What? | 03:03 |
| fenn | um, i mean, stdin and stdout | 03:03 |
| gene_ | it's a joke | 03:03 |
| fenn | yeah well, if you're leaving, and you're leaving, them I'M LEAVING | 03:04 |
| kanzure_ | I'm not really leaving. :-/ | 03:04 |
| kanzure_ | Just ignoring everyone. | 03:04 |
| kanzure_ | So we're trying to implement gene's membraneless filtration system | 03:09 |
| kanzure_ | pump + garden hose + hose splitter at the end that will supposedly have algae coming out one end and water the other | 03:10 |
| fenn | some kind of cyclone separation? | 03:10 |
| * fenn is thinking hilsch vortex tube | 03:11 | |
| kanzure_ | apparently it's supposed to be like centrifugation except you don't move the container, since it's just a tube in a circular pattern | 03:11 |
| kanzure_ | s/circular/spiralular/ | 03:11 |
| kanzure_ | *spiraling | 03:11 |
| fenn | kanzure_: if you havent seen ghost in the shell SAC, you should at least watch episode 11 | 03:13 |
| kanzure_ | Which one was episode 11? | 03:14 |
| kanzure_ | I only remember the episode counter randomly jittering around when I've seen it on television. | 03:14 |
| fenn | hum. it's not that important, just sort of reminded me of your aspie-admiring ways | 03:14 |
| kanzure_ | Kind of random | 03:15 |
| fenn | its about kids with "closed shell cyberbrain disorder" or somesuch | 03:15 |
| fenn | and they are superhackers being used by the gov't (or something?) | 03:15 |
| kanzure_ | Something about some shadowy character controlling these peoples, | 03:15 |
| fenn | the laughing man | 03:16 |
| kanzure_ | some background plot that extends for a good number of episodes | 03:16 |
| kanzure_ | right | 03:16 |
| * kanzure_ forgot the name "The Laughing Man" | 03:16 | |
| fenn | i thought i wouldn't be one of those deaf dumb mute | 03:16 |
| kanzure_ | ? | 03:16 |
| fenn | weirdly enough google doesn't know | 03:16 |
| fenn | it's the words rotating around the laughing man logo | 03:17 |
| fenn | and in paint written by the catatonic kid | 03:17 |
| kanzure_ | I was searching around last night for autism+catatonia. | 03:17 |
| kanzure_ | Not much showed up. It's hard for me to verbalize the problems I'm starting to notice that are growing worse. | 03:18 |
| fenn | "the problems" = you? or the world? or you + the world interacting? | 03:18 |
| kanzure_ | Me. | 03:18 |
| kanzure_ | Not interacting with "the world" (if you mean as in 'other people'). | 03:18 |
| fenn | right | 03:19 |
| kanzure_ | Off of the stimulants, it's like a catatonia, or generalized anxiety of generally doing things, I don't know what to call it. I don't "do things" but I clearly _do_ do things, because I end up outside at the 7-11 or subway, or pacing around and giggling maniachially, etc. | 03:21 |
| kanzure_ | It's not a lack of 'motivation' or 'will power' or 'volition', because that's completely there, but some sort of motor execution issue maybe. But I don't know if I'm just making up random excuses. | 03:22 |
| kanzure_ | Do you know how it is when you're writing some particularly complex source code, and not only is it complex and new, but you don't do it in small chunks, and you just do it all at once, and the confusion of mapping out all aspects just leads to a general inability to go do it? | 03:23 |
| kanzure_ | That's exactly the feeling I get when I have to go get something from, say, the backpack or shelf. | 03:24 |
| kanzure_ | How weird is that? | 03:24 |
| kanzure_ | Hah! | 03:58 |
| kanzure_ | http://courses.utexas.edu/ | 03:58 |
| kanzure_ | "We appreciate all of the UNIX/Linux voting going on." | 03:58 |
| kanzure_ | Results: 5990 - XP, 5629 - Vista, 49230 - Linux, 6130 - Mac OS X, 809 - Other | 03:59 |
| willPow3r | its nice to see that linux is far more prolific than macos x | 04:06 |
| kanzure_ | Are you being sarcastic? | 04:07 |
| willPow3r | actually, i dont understand the metric. so n/m. | 04:07 |
| kanzure_ | It's a poll. | 04:07 |
| kanzure_ | It's funny because it's easy to cheat. | 04:07 |
| kanzure_ | And thus the linuxpeople cheat. | 04:08 |
| willPow3r | ah. for the lulz. | 04:08 |
| -!- percent is now known as jihaaaad | 04:49 | |
| kanzure_ | scooter - turn up that blaster <- Clearly infringes upon the Terminator 2 theme. | 04:54 |
| gene_ | huh? | 04:57 |
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| --- Log opened Thu Nov 06 07:00:55 2008 | ||
| -!- Irssi: #hplusroadmap: Total of 18 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] | 07:00 | |
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| willPow3r | AHHAHA YES!!!11 http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ | 13:00 |
| UtopiahGHML | (for those who like recursion : http://fractalyze.blogspot.com/ ) | 13:01 |
| willPow3r | very pretty. fractals are amazing | 13:02 |
| UtopiahGHML | if you like that you might enjoy ContextFreeArt.org that has been posted here before | 13:03 |
| willPow3r | i've seen stuff on there | 13:04 |
| willPow3r | u guys use twitter at all? | 13:04 |
| UtopiahGHML | kanzure-_: does and his father too ;) | 13:04 |
| UtopiahGHML | I don't but I might change, that or other form of microblogging | 13:05 |
| UtopiahGHML | but more for personal notetaking than anything else | 13:05 |
| UtopiahGHML | (especially not about making my life public) | 13:05 |
| willPow3r | i just signed up for it tonight. looks like a mini version of facebook, more or less | 13:05 |
| UtopiahGHML | it's like your status line in IM/Facebook yes | 13:05 |
| willPow3r | thats all it is. | 13:07 |
| UtopiahGHML | but you can subscribe to other people's Twitts | 13:07 |
| willPow3r | if u sign up, let me know, i'll add you | 13:09 |
| UtopiahGHML | (I loved how Julien from http://fractalyze.blogspot.com/2007/01/fractalyze-00.html did the whole blog as a fractal too, I mean you see the progress as each step using the result of the preceding one, a learning process with a visual result) | 13:10 |
| UtopiahGHML | sure, Ill think about saying sth interesting first then Ill Twitt ;) | 13:10 |
| -!- percent is now known as jihaaad | 18:02 | |
| xp_prg | kanzure have you seen this: http://www.celldesigner.org/ ? | 20:17 |
| nsh | anyone have access to Phys. Rev. Lett. ? | 22:02 |
| nsh | specifically: "Evolution of long-range fractal correlations and 1/f noise in DNA base sequences." | 22:03 |
| UtopiahGHML | kanzure-_: have you discussed with Disjkstra? is he still in Austin's Uni? | 23:48 |
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