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| willPow3r | genehacker, teleport me a pizza | 00:31 |
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| genehacker | do you have a teleporter on the other end? | 00:31 |
| willPow3r | hmm you might have to teleport me a teleporter | 00:31 |
| genehacker | if not then I can't teleport you a pizza | 00:32 |
| willPow3r | i could use my transmogrifier to make one | 00:32 |
| genehacker | I could destroy a pizza then capture the information of the pizza, then I could send you the information on how to make that pizza | 00:33 |
| willPow3r | so its not necessarily teleportation in the classical star trek sense | 00:33 |
| willPow3r | because more than one copy can be made from the destruction of the one pizza | 00:34 |
| genehacker | nope | 00:34 |
| genehacker | the way I could teleport something | 00:35 |
| genehacker | would be to 3d scan it, then destroy it | 00:35 |
| genehacker | and have someone 3d print it | 00:35 |
| genehacker | thus it's teleporting | 00:36 |
| willPow3r | teleport, n. : to transfer or transmit instantaneously without physically traversing the space in between but rather by psychic or advanced technological means | 00:36 |
| genehacker | yeah | 00:37 |
| willPow3r | right | 00:37 |
| genehacker | it | 00:37 |
| willPow3r | so i suppose it is then. | 00:37 |
| genehacker | it's more of ghettoport than teleport though | 00:37 |
| willPow3r | lol | 00:37 |
| willPow3r | if my "printer" can't print with the same colors that are "scanned"... | 00:38 |
| willPow3r | are there standards on this? | 00:38 |
| genehacker | oh shit, riots broke out in oakland | 00:47 |
| Splicer | I just watched the clip... the cops mind was on something else. It's an interesting psychological effect. | 01:15 |
| genehacker | yeah, I find it more unfortunate more than interesting | 01:19 |
| genehacker | sigh, if only we had the resources to modify our brains so this type of thing wouldn't happen | 01:19 |
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| willPow3r | we do have the resources. they're called guns | 02:23 |
| Splicer | We're human... so we make misstakes | 02:30 |
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| faceface | is there a global brain? | 02:47 |
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| UtopiahGHML | faceface: http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/SUPORGLI.html | 02:56 |
| faceface | ty | 03:52 |
| UtopiahGHML | (eventually http://public.lanl.gov/jhw/Publications_files/WatkinsCollectiveIntelligenceBook-1.pdf too ) | 04:03 |
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| kanzure | um | 07:51 |
| kanzure | So, as some of you know, I've been at my dorm since last night to visit with Steve. | 07:54 |
| kanzure | Andrew called me a few moments ago. My father died last night. | 07:55 |
| UtopiahGHML | sorry to hear that | 07:57 |
| kanzure | "I have four living grandparents and I intend to have four living grandparents when the last star of the Milky Way burns out." | 08:04 |
| wrldpc | I'm sorry. | 08:33 |
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| kanzure | Where the hell is the Alcorchopter when you need it? | 08:37 |
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| wrldpc | "We shall have to work faster." | 09:46 |
| wrldpc | "we will unmake Death." | 09:50 |
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| faceface | kanzure_: condolences | 11:07 |
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| kanzure_ | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7817849.stm | 13:54 |
| kanzure_ | algae biofuel test flight | 13:54 |
| kanzure_ | oops, nevermind | 13:54 |
| kanzure_ | the title lies | 13:54 |
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| wrldpc | wtf | 15:37 |
| wrldpc | bbiab | 15:37 |
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| kanzure_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Brain <-- Marshall Brain hosts (and is 'The Voice') for "Factory Floor" (basically "How It's Made") | 16:00 |
| UtopiahGHML | guy from SIAI last published video | 16:01 |
| UtopiahGHML | is his Robotic Nation interesting? | 16:01 |
| kanzure_ | Marshall Brain is always interesting | 16:03 |
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| genehacker_ | http://blog.wired.com/cars/2009/01/aviation-bio-fu.html | 17:15 |
| genehacker_ | wired on biofuel | 17:16 |
| * kanzure_ points to the logs | 17:16 | |
| genehacker_ | well they aren't very pro biofuel | 17:18 |
| genehacker_ | heh didn't even mention algae | 17:18 |
| genehacker_ | well if worst comes to worst we can always sell it as cattle feed | 17:18 |
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| kanzure_ | the Slashdot article lied, it said 'algae' in the title but it wasn't true | 17:23 |
| kanzure_ | that might have been in the firehose though | 17:23 |
| kanzure_ | http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2009/jan/HQ_09-003_Antarctic_Balloons.html | 17:24 |
| kanzure_ | This seven-million-cubic-foot super-pressure balloon is the largest | 17:24 |
| kanzure_ | single-cell, super-pressure, fully-sealed balloon ever flown. When | 17:24 |
| kanzure_ | development ends, NASA will have a 22 million-cubic-foot balloon that | 17:24 |
| kanzure_ | can carry a one-ton instrument to an altitude of more than 110,000 | 17:24 |
| kanzure_ | feet, which is three to four times higher than passenger planes fly. | 17:24 |
| kanzure_ | " | 17:24 |
| kanzure_ | " | 17:24 |
| kanzure_ | Spaceship 1 was only about 3 to 4 tons loaded weight and launched at | 17:24 |
| kanzure_ | 50,000 ft from White Knight 1. | 17:24 |
| kanzure_ | So a higher launch from balloon with less fuel (less weight) seems | 17:24 |
| kanzure_ | nearly within reach." | 17:24 |
| genehacker_ | http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/01/replicatingrna.html | 17:24 |
| genehacker_ | ribozymes | 17:25 |
| genehacker_ | yeah you know they launch balloons like that in texas? | 17:25 |
| kanzure_ | hrm, it doesn't mention Ellington.. he's a ribozyme-fan. (and aptamer fan, of course) | 17:25 |
| kanzure_ | ` | 17:26 |
| kanzure_ | "We have two enzymes, a plus and a minus," Joyce explains. "The plus assembles the pieces to make the minus enzyme, and the minus enzyme assembles the pieces to draw the plus. It's kind of like biology, where there is a DNA strand with plus and minus strands."` | 17:26 |
| kanzure_ | `To put it in info speak, we have a channel of 30 bit capacity for transferring information," Joyce said. "We can configure those bits in different ways and make a variety of different replicators. And then have them compete with each other."` | 17:27 |
| kanzure_ | a retarded RNA polymerase would be nice too, btw | 17:28 |
| kanzure_ | as sort of a "meh, until we get a retarded DNA polymerase engineered" substitute | 17:28 |
| genehacker_ | yeah it would | 17:28 |
| genehacker_ | so you have any ideas for what a 405nm laser would be useful for? | 17:29 |
| kanzure_ | interesting two-actor replication system they have there .. you don't just squeeze in another thing to be replicated though, that's not quite how it works | 17:29 |
| kanzure_ | well in this context a 405 nm laser could be used to send information to the theoretical retarded DNA polymerase :p | 17:30 |
| kanzure_ | via chromophore activation and deformation of the polymerase enzyme | 17:30 |
| genehacker_ | 405 nm is borderline ultraviolet, | 17:30 |
| genehacker_ | you know you might be able to use a 532 nm green laser pointer to analyze what rocks are made of? | 17:33 |
| genehacker_ | http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2008/pdf/2331.pdf | 17:34 |
| genehacker_ | green laser pointers oddly make calcite glow orange | 17:35 |
| nsh | "Joyce's chemicals are technically hacked RNA enzymes, much like the ones we have in our bodies, but they don't behave anything like those in living creatures. But, these synthetic RNA replicators do provide a model for evolution — and shed light on one step in the development of early living systems from on a lifeless globe." | 18:22 |
| nsh | this is bad english | 18:22 |
| nsh | do not write like this. | 18:22 |
| nsh | kanzure, wanted to ask you something | 18:22 |
| nsh | do you know of, or how i might find, a page or site with some projections of moore's law for storage capacity? | 18:23 |
| nsh | that's reasonably uptodate | 18:23 |
| kanzure_ | http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/01/replicatingrna.html | 18:27 |
| kanzure_ | I was half expecting Aubrey de Grey to show up with a lightsaber and fight in hand-to-hand combat with Death, but alas, Aubrey must still be stuck getting plane tickets, his long beard stuck in a door, or drunk in a pub (it's sort of his thing). | 18:27 |
| bkero | Haha | 18:28 |
| * bkero tries to picture Aubrey drunk in a bar. | 18:29 | |
| genehacker_ | ??? | 18:34 |
| * willPow3r tries to picture Aubrey sober | 18:35 | |
| genehacker_ | heh | 18:35 |
| genehacker_ | he is pretty crazy | 18:35 |
| genehacker_ | it's not a beard kanzure it's a longevity cocoon | 18:35 |
| nsh | lol | 18:37 |
| kanzure_ | Steve and I were thinking about some designs for mass automated longevity tissue experiments. | 18:38 |
| genehacker_ | how do you make sure it's not cancer? | 18:39 |
| kanzure_ | this was just an idea for doing flash freezing (or attenuated freezing with different curves to get rid of crystals/imperfections) | 18:41 |
| kanzure_ | and then thawing plus microelectrode arrays and other methods of automatically assessing whether or not it's living, or if the tissue sample needs human review | 18:41 |
| genehacker_ | well it's easy to freeze small samples and revive them | 18:41 |
| kanzure_ | ok so increase surface area gradually and then use symbolic regression (functional induction) to figure out if there's some complex function describing the change in the attenuation cycle for temp. that you could use | 18:42 |
| kanzure_ | or use bayesian analysis, that too | 18:42 |
| genehacker_ | you can freeze mice in LN2 you know | 18:42 |
| kanzure_ | cite? | 18:43 |
| genehacker_ | hold on | 18:46 |
| genehacker_ | james lovelock did it | 18:46 |
| genehacker_ | you know gaia theory guy? | 18:46 |
| genehacker_ | http://www.damninteresting.com/index.php?s=lovelock | 18:47 |
| genehacker_ | gaia theory as in the earth is a huge organism | 18:49 |
| genehacker_ | oops not LN2 just icewater bath | 18:50 |
| kanzure_ | http://www.nybb.hs.columbia.edu/pathologist.htm how to properly prepare a brain for shipment to a medical location | 19:44 |
| kanzure_ | (alcor doesn't actually have a brain preparation protocol page, afaik) | 19:44 |
| genehacker_ | ??? | 19:47 |
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| ybit | nice: | 21:03 |
| ybit | git reset --soft HEAD^ | 21:04 |
| ybit | undo for git | 21:04 |
| genehacker_ | http://crave.cnet.co.uk/accessories/0,39101000,49300513,00.htm | 21:13 |
| genehacker_ | 2TB sd card | 21:13 |
| genehacker_ | s | 21:13 |
| genehacker_ | are in the future | 21:13 |
| genehacker_ | 2 TBs in a pocket | 21:13 |
| genehacker_ | think about it, 2TBs on a SD CARD! | 21:14 |
| genehacker_ | you could put one in a paper airplane full of songs and throw it to that far off cubicle and achieve unprecedented bandwidth | 21:17 |
| ybit | http://www.tony-b.org/ :: kind of addicting | 21:44 |
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| bkero | 2TB using the exFAT filesystem | 22:48 |
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| genehacker_ | it's still 2TB | 23:37 |
| genehacker_ | just think you could strap em to carrier pigeons and start a pigeon net | 23:37 |
| genehacker_ | the RIAA will never be able to stop that! | 23:37 |
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