2009-02-04.log

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Aulereanyone in here familiar with computational linguistics?02:11
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UtopiahBack to Nature for the Next Technology Revolution http://www.researchchannel.org/prog/displayevent.aspx?rid=28232 04:01
Utopiah(by Babak Parviz, Ph.D, associate professor, Electrical Engineering, University of Washington)04:01
bkeroAnybody here good at algorithms?04:06
Utopiahhave the basics, why?04:12
bkeroHaving some issues with a programming assignment of mine04:14
Utopiah?04:16
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fenndo people really expect you to bother every previous employer/teacher/whatever every single time you apply for a job?08:55
nshgenerally you just give a couple of potential referees, and the hiring employer will ask them for references if they consider it necessary08:58
* nsh doesn't generally ask previous employers up-front for references08:58
nshsome have offered to pre-write them though08:58
nshbut employment is stupid anyway...08:59
fennof cours09:00
fennrecommend any alternatives?09:00
nshinvestment fraud seems to be paying well recently09:00
kanzureapparently you're supposed to make them write the letters of recommendation before you quit/leave/flip-them-off09:05
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kanzureand then just copy those forever.09:06
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fenndamn09:14
fennnobody ever told me that!09:14
fennhmm i want this on my HUD http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/gipfel.html09:26
fennbut for buildings too09:27
fennhmm.. differential gps would even allow tagging of inventory items down to the mm09:36
kanzureTHE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE13:24
kanzureSaul is married to O'Reilly's daughter13:24
kanzureinstructables is incest13:24
bkerowhat13:25
bkeroI've seen some incredibly badass stuff on instructables.13:25
kanzureYes, but there's just some problems with it.13:25
kanzureAnyway, I was talking with the unptnt guy (Dave) and his angel over lunch with Charlie.13:26
kanzureSo he completely destroyed my worldview. Instructables is the way it is because it's just incest. Make Magazine links over to instructables, instructables links back to Make.. not because it's "the scene" but because it's artificial (which is fine, but still)13:26
kanzureSaul Griffith.13:26
bkeroMake links back to Instructables because an outsourced community is much easier to generate news.13:27
bkeros/news/articles/13:28
kanzureSure.13:28
kanzureI don't think you understand though.13:28
bkeroPerhaps you need to broadsde me with it for me to understand.13:28
kanzureHaven't you seen us complaining about instructables, Make, Make Magazine, O'Reilly, etc. in here before?13:29
bkeroCan't say so13:29
bkeroI have my own qualms about O'Reilly though.13:29
bkeroMake is the new, hip Popular Science though.13:29
fennPopular Mechanics13:31
fennwithout all that focus on practical stuff13:31
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bkeroI still enjoy learning about impractical things.13:32
bkeroMany of the crazy impractical thoughts I had for operations of a datacentre turned out to be right on the money of what Google actually does. :)13:33
fennapparently they werent impractical13:33
bkeroThey are when I do them with a room full of computers.  They aren't when Google's doing them with hundreds of thousands.13:34
fennwhat i mean is popular mechanics had all sorts of articles like "how to build a lathe from stuff you have lying around" or "how to build a workbench" which is totally absent in Make13:34
fennyou mean like semi trailers full of motherboards and hard drives in huge piles?13:34
bkerofenn: I mean using lakes for cooling ;)13:34
bkeroand auto part stores13:35
fenngosh do they really?13:35
* fenn mumbles about low power architectures13:35
fennauto parts for what?13:36
kanzureapparently Dave's angel is also associated with the octopart group13:38
bkerofenn: Ask me in a PM sometime and I'll see what I can tell you without breaking NDA13:40
bkero:)13:40
fennoctopart is pretty neat13:40
kanzuredoesn't have a "buy now" button13:41
kanzureDave looks a bit like Alec13:41
kanzurelots of energy going on with Dave13:41
fenni think amazon patented the "buy now" button :)13:41
kanzureanyway, kits, "buy now" buttons, surfraw + octopart 13:41
kanzureAmazon Industrial API but only for 10+ orders of things13:41
kanzureneed to run off to class13:41
fennheh actually there is a buy now button13:41
kanzureit links over to another site13:42
bkeroThe 'buy now' links correlate to the site on the left13:44
bkeroRight now it seems only Farnell has a 'buy now' button, at least for opa2132's13:44
fenncoincidentally i'm messing around with audio amps right now13:45
bkeroI've got an OPA2132 in my headphone amp. :)13:46
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bkeroHaha, did you guys see http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/03/232221 ?13:52
kanzure3_yes, it's already screwing up though16:00
kanzure3_it turns out that Ray regrets doing it because of the poor management of Space U16:00
kanzure3_Diamandis? that's the guy, or something16:00
fennisunet.edu?16:01
kanzure3_I think so.16:02
fennwww.isunet.edu16:02
fenni wonder how to go about getting a .edu domain16:02
fennyou'd think they would just get space.edu16:04
bkeroSounds like a great way to take $25,000 from some kids with a twinkle in their eye.16:08
proctofenn: you need to be accredited16:12
proctoin the US16:12
proctoapply somewhere here: http://www.chea.org/16:13
fennhttp://net.educause.edu/edudomain/show_faq.asp?code=EDUELIGIBILITY16:14
fennpostsecondary.. that's kinda unfair isnt it?16:14
kanzure3_I'm looking for a diagnosis16:22
kanzure3_it's not hypochondriac16:22
kanzure3_and it's not agoraphobia16:22
kanzure3_it's where a person is too disgusted with the world to go outside16:22
kanzure3_what's the word?16:22
fennpostmodern16:22
fennhikikomori16:23
kanzure3_yes, it's like that 16:23
kanzure3_although there's a more popular english term fori t16:23
kanzure3_*it16:23
kanzuretodo: write "Strategies to Prevent Total System Failure"16:55
kanzure3_Joseph will talk about the end of scarcity on the Speculist's popular17:12
kanzure3_podcast Wednesday, February 4 10:30 PM Eastern / 7:30 PM Pacific.17:12
kanzure3_Joseph Jackson17:12
kanzure3_http://www.blog.speculist.com/archives/001979.html17:12
kanzureguess that's 9 my time.17:15
kanzurehm.17:16
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kanzure3_http://nerdbazaar.com/18:51
kanzure3_http://delicious.com/earms18:52
kanzure3_http://vimeo.com/1037507 Institute for the Future - video on ponoko, david ten have18:58
gene_wow Make and Instructables are almost like some sort of news illuminati19:25
gene_let's talk about seasteading19:31
gene_apparently at the bottom of the ocean are huge caches of high grade metal ores just waiting to be exploited: http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/gold-underwater-mining/30219:32
gene_the problem is getting to them19:32
gene_and the legality of such actions19:33
gene_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule19:35
gene_apparently19:35
gene_you have to share your profits with the UN or something19:36
gene_or you have to buy a liscense from the UN to pick up rocks on the bottom of the ocean19:37
gene_rocks rich in a little element named gold19:42
gene_http://scienceblogs.com/deepseanews/2007/05/gold_rush_to_the_deep_seafloor.php19:56
gene_Damn,  apparently the UN "owns" the ocean19:56
kanzure3_http://partsregistry.org/Assembly:Robotic_assembly20:19
kanzure3_http://ginkgobioworks.com/ <- the guys doing that20:19
gene_damn20:25
gene_Kanzure20:25
gene_I've got a burning question20:25
gene_how the heck do they repair nuclear reactors?20:26
gene_do they use robots or people willing to become eunuchs20:26
gene_holy cow20:29
gene_automatic assembly of biobricks?20:30
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gene_http://ranier.hq.nasa.gov/telerobotics_page/Photos/ManufWorkcell.jpg20:32
gene_take a look at this20:32
gene_http://ranier.hq.nasa.gov/telerobotics_page/photos.html20:33
kanzure3_http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1404046&dl=ACM&coll=portal Free factories: unified infrastructure for data intensive web services20:34
gene_http://ranier.hq.nasa.gov/telerobotics_page/Photos/VisualCalibration.jpg20:35
gene_hmmmm...20:35
gene_If I could only find the paper that goes with this20:35
kanzure3_http://www.robiotec.com/20:37
kanzure3_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHlxKhCSbpA20:37
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gene_http://ranier.hq.nasa.gov/telerobotics_page/Photos/RSIAlgorithm.jpg20:40
gene_look at the grainyness on that photo20:40
gene_they might have been doing this in the 80s20:41
kanzure3_http://www.symyx.com/20:41
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gene_http://brl.ee.washington.edu/publications/Rep127/images/FigBH1.jpg20:57
gene_I could watch that video you sent me all day long21:08
kanzureRND? yeah 21:08
kanzure3_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s3IlIE4Yuk21:09
kanzure3_skip the first 3 minutes or something21:09
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kanzure3_http://www.blogtalkradio.com/fastforwardradio22:00
kanzure3_Can anyone figure out how to actually access this stream?22:00
gene_http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0805/0805.0230.pdf22:17
gene_I wonder what it'd take to actually make one these22:17
gene_a balloon filled with electrons22:17
gene_500million volts/ meter22:18
gene_where can I get that22:18
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kanzure3_http://www.haque.co.uk/papers/hardsp-softsp-open-so-arch.PDF23:08
gene_hmmmm.... physicists are very theoretical23:16
gene_how do I fill a balloon with electrons?23:16
kanzureoooh23:18
kanzureApril 3rd, here in Austin, Jerry Seinfeld live :)23:18
kanzure3_http://www.austin360.com/calendar/events2/etc/userEventDisplay.jspd?eventid=10069523:19
gene_speaking of entertainment and such, did you ever finish haruhi?23:24
gene_or at least watch the first couple episodes23:24
kanzureyes23:24
gene_you watched them in chronological order right?23:25
kanzureNo.23:25
kanzureEpisode numerical order.23:25
gene_damn non-standardized systems23:25
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gene_now it says if one could build a giant tube of electronic gas covered in insulator surrounded by positive charge, one could make a quasi-superconducting balloon and fly levitating future cars on it23:30
gene_http://books.google.com/books?id=u-UqR8zIDEAC&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=kinetic+anti-gravitator&source=bl&ots=5FgHGaiC6E&sig=FMcXMRyQm8Natjo-m1Z4w7aG7UI&hl=en&ei=3neKSZrdBJ6DtweKzbmTBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result23:30
gene_check out this paper too23:30
gene_make something stand on the end of a loop of cable23:31
gene_I want to build one23:31
kanzure3_well that was interesting, listening to Joseph Jackson go on about abundancy topics23:52
kanzure3_he was actually kind of coherent23:52

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