2009-02-19.log

--- Day changed Thu Feb 19 2009
samroseyep, got a slow response from http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Skdb00:18
kanzureit's entirely possible that I'm currently splitting the account/connection. erm, it's hard to explain how this is working. 00:22
kanzure(or it might not be)00:22
kanzureit might be getting confused as to which MAC address to submit packets to, since it's supposed to be one MAC address per account, and one of my internet accounts is inactive at the moment (apparently)00:22
kanzureanyway.00:22
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kanzureHey davidnunez.08:09
davidnunezmorning08:16
kanzurehttp://www.doviak.net/debian/debian_install_guide.pdf the illustrated guide to installing debian08:54
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kanzuresamrose: hey11:30
kanzuresamrose: Nathan and I are going to have a phone call sometime later today, to synchronize each other on things11:30
kanzureI was wondering if you met him when he was visiting Factor E Farm.11:30
samrosekanzure, I would love to join you. I will be in meetings all day today at MacArhtur Foundation Grantee Gathering, so I can't (unless I am msireading that you were offering for me to join :-)  )11:31
kanzurewell, you misread, but you correctly predicted that Nathan and I would like the Factor E Farm guys, OSE, and such, and the Austin Fab Lab people to have a phone conference or something at some point11:33
kanzurehttp://www.dellsocialinnovationcompetition.com/apex/ideaView?id=087800000005GA5AAM The Farmery11:58
kanzure" The Farmery will be created with stacked shipping containers so that each container can be pre-manufactured and stacked to reduce production costs. Each container will have a 4 foot wide greenhouse attached to each long side. The crops will be grown hydroponically in vertical sacks holding the growing substrate that hang from rails inside the greenhouses that allow the crops to be rotated easily. Inside the container, specialty mushrooms will be grown. The bottom container will serve as the retail site for the food grown at the Farmery. The nutrients for the crops at the Farmery will come from composting local food wastes, so there is a constant cycle of turning the communities wastes into food."11:59
kanzurehttp://www.dellsocialinnovationcompetition.com/apex/ideaView?id=087800000005GA5AAM11:59
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fennwhat are the conveyor belts for? just put a clear wall on the shipping containers and be done with it14:05
fenn'if it ain't broke don't fix it"14:06
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kanzure_biofenn: so it turns out the machine shop doesn't know how to convert the model to gcode (or doesn't have 'mastercam' or something).15:03
kanzure_bioscore another point for "design for machinability" .. or not.15:03
* kanzure_bio compiles openfoam in the background15:04
fenni think there are packages on opennovation.org15:20
kanzure_bioblah15:56
kanzure_biothe response on the diybio list to the dopamine synthesis pathways is awesome15:57
kanzure_bioI immediately got two IMs from Andrew Hessel, and one from Tito15:57
kanzure_bioas soon as it hit the mailing list.15:57
kanzurehttp://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/Step-and-scan%20maskless%20lithography%20for%20ultra%20large%20scale%20DNA%20chips.pdf16:51
kanzureA maskless photolithography test bed was constructed to examine the requirements for stepper-based synthesis of Ultra Large Scale DNA chips (ULS-DNA chips). The test bed is based on a microscope optical layout with a 5 × reduction imaging lens and micro/nano controlled staging at the image plane. Spatial light modulation is enabled by a Digital Micromirror Device (Texas Instruments DMD 0.7XGA) and the positioning system is composed of a piezoelectric nano-positioner (nPoint Inc., Madison, WI) mounted on a high precision linear-motor stage (Newport Corp., Irvine, CA). With this test bed we examined the requirements of overlay and alignment in a stepper-based DNA microarray synthesis system. We demonstrated multi-field chip synthesis with a spot size of 3.15 μm at the 5 × reduction. All tests were verified by standard hybridization, and fluorescence microscopy. In addition to our demonstration of step-and-scan lithography for DNA chip synthesis, we drafted and modeled an imaging optic for a production scale tool capable of synthesizing DNA chips containing up to 20 million pixels.16:51
kanzurehttp://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V0W-4RMNYCM-5&_user=108429&_coverDate=06%2F30%2F2008&_rdoc=1&_fmt=full&_orig=search&_cdi=5657&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000059713&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=108429&md5=5c61a528aecd8d80e044e5e0978ed957#fig116:51
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xp_prgwhere do I get adp1 and rdp?17:27
kanzuredid you see the adp1 page on heybryan.org?17:33
kanzurehttp://heybryan.org/docs/Acinetobacter_instead_of_ecoli.html17:33
xp_prgon17:33
xp_prgsweet where do I get that man?17:34
xp_prghello?17:39
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xp_prgkanzure are you ignoring me?17:45
kanzureno17:48
kanzureI was buying food. give me a break.17:49
kanzureyou get it from a bacteria collection at some university17:49
kanzurelook it up in the diybio mailing list archives17:49
kanzurehttp://groups.google.com/group/diybio17:49
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kanzurehttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Natasha_Vita-More&diff=271954921&oldid=26870340418:18
kanzureso..18:18
kanzurehm, I have old #sl4 logs from 2002 now.18:27
PeerInfinityooh, where did you get them from?18:35
kanzureMichael Anissimov18:39
PeerInfinitynice :)18:45
kanzurefenn: I'd eventually like to hear your opinion on dave19:07
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kanzureHey Locke.19:10
LockeHello19:10
kanzureHey notTraveler.19:10
notTravelerhi, I'm just testing out the java IRC applet19:11
notTravelerhttp://cosmeng.org/chat/19:11
kanzureAh.19:11
kanzurehttp://heybryan.org/SSH2/ has a java SSH client that could be used to run irssi on a remote server19:12
LockeAnd I'm pretty much bound to the java IRC applet, not an IRC user naturally.19:12
LockeAnother OCE member here.19:12
kanzureHi there.19:12
PeerInfinity:)19:12
kanzureDid either of you see the "how to synthesize dopamine in a cell" post I made today?19:12
PeerInfinityooh, you already figured out how to change your text color?19:13
Locke...it's a single click, Peer.19:13
notTravelerah, so it is :)19:13
LockeNo, may I have a link?19:14
PeerInfinityhmm, the hplusroadmap archives only go up to July 2008:  http://heybryan.org/pipermail/hplusroadmap/19:22
kanzuresorry, my bad19:25
kanzurejust had a chat with Natasha on the phone19:25
kanzureno, it was on the diybio list19:25
kanzurehrm, finding a link19:26
kanzurehttp://groups.google.com/group/diybio19:26
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PeerInfinitythanks for the link :)19:27
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kanzurehttp://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/diybio.png19:37
PeerInfinitynice graph :)19:41
bkerokanzure: what's it a graph of?19:43
kanzurediybio :)19:43
kanzureI posted it a few moments ago19:43
kanzureOn Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nick Taylor wrote:19:43
kanzure> This list is great btw. Every day a couple of things turn up that make me go19:43
kanzure> "holy crap!"19:43
kanzureso I replied with http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/diybio.png19:43
PeerInfinityLOL!19:50
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kanzurehey gene.20:20
genelolwut20:21
kanzuredid you see the email I sent to diybio with the graph?20:21
kanzureOn Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nick Taylor wrote:20:21
kanzure> This list is great btw. Every day a couple of things turn up that make me go20:21
kanzure> "holy crap!"20:21
kanzureso I replied with http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/diybio.png20:21
geneheh20:21
geneI need to post the moore's law graph20:22
kanzurerefresh that image20:26
kanzureI originally had a parabola, but an exponential seems better20:26
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kanzurephone call with Nathan. Need to call Marcin up eventually.21:03
genehuh21:04
genesome of my posts to diybio didn't show up21:04
genegoogle blox?21:04
kanzurewhich posts in particular?21:04
kanzurethe group front page kind of hides them21:05
kanzurebut they got through to me21:05
kanzureI got a few of them today, were there more?21:05
geneon the $2521:05
* kanzure looks over http://www.genome.ad.jp/dbget-bin/get_linkdb?-t+alldb+rn:R0034521:05
genethermocycler21:05
kanzureyeah, it got through21:05
geneafter josh21:05
kanzure"21:06
kanzure"21:06
kanzureI'm willing to bet we could make an illuminator using a tanning bed21:06
kanzurelight or a UV disinfector.21:06
kanzureUV disinfector 185-365 nm, $139.99, but I think one might be able to21:06
kanzurefind a cheaper one:21:06
genewait a second21:06
kanzure"21:06
genenope21:06
genenot it21:06
kanzureoh, after josh?21:06
kanzurehrm21:06
geneso reply to author means only they can see it21:06
geneohhh21:06
kanzurehahah21:06
geneshit21:06
kanzureyeah :/21:06
geneNow I have to repost21:07
kanzureblah, 2 hours remaining on the genes.tar.gz download from KEGG21:08
geneholy shit though easy bake thermocycler21:11
kanzureheh21:12
genewe should make one at the fablab21:13
geneBTW since the fab lab has a vacuum pump21:13
kanzurebtw, sybr stains are like iodine drops added to the dna before you run your gel (IIRC)21:13
geneJUST IODINE!21:14
geneis it just iodine?21:14
kanzureno21:14
genefuck21:14
kanzureit's something else21:14
kanzuresorry21:14
kanzureI wonder if the patent is out yet21:14
kanzureyou could go look it up I guess21:14
geneif it was just iodine, we could do gels for dirt cheap21:15
genenone of that ethidium bromide crap21:15
kanzureor better yet, go look up the company that produces sybr gold,21:15
kanzureand then go look up when it was released (as a product)21:15
geneinvitrogen21:15
kanzurethen go look up who they hired a few years earlier21:15
genegoogle it21:15
kanzureand go read their theses21:15
kanzureand that will tell you what they were working on ;-)21:15
kanzureheh21:15
genehahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah21:15
genesince the fab lab has a vacuum pump21:16
kanzurebtw, I have a call with carolina biological tomorrow21:16
genethere's something I'd like to try21:16
kanzureyeah?21:16
geneI want to make a room temperature quasi-superconductor21:16
genecarolina biological?21:16
kanzureit's like invitrogen except a smaller company I guess21:17
genehttp://arxiv.org/abs/0805.023021:17
geneyeah I know them21:17
genewhat are you calling them for21:17
kanzureI want them to see if they'd like to hook up their API to my XML biology protocols21:18
genecarolina is pretty diy biology friendly21:18
kanzureso that we can automatically buy parts for kits for diybio21:18
kanzureyeah21:18
kanzureso that's why I'm calling21:18
kanzureI'm talking with their ecommerce director21:18
geneyou know there is a diybio meetup in San Francisco21:19
kanzureyes21:19
geneif they follow my suggestions21:20
kanzuredid you see the diybio map?21:20
genethey might be able to get us some GFP and e.coli fairly cheaply21:20
geneyou can clone the tubes of GFP gene right?21:20
genesame with lab grade e.coli too?21:21
kanzure"Microwave improved Escherichia coli transformation"21:23
kanzure"We found that giving calcium chloride competent cells a 1 min microwave pulse at the lowest power setting (180 W), instead of the classic 1–2 min 42°C heat-shock step, increases the transformation efficiency around threefold (3.3 ± 0.5). Moreover, when both treatments were given in a 2-min 42°C − 5 min on ice − 1 min microwave pluse sequence, an additional improvement of 1.6 was obtained, resulting in an overall increase in efficiency of approximately 5.3-fold compared to classical heat shock."21:24
kanzurehttp://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119400964/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=021:24
kanzure"Significance and Impact of the Study: This method might be useful to those laboratories that cannot afford an electroporation apparatus."21:24
genehahahahahaha21:26
genenice21:26
genepost it in diybio21:26
kanzureokay.21:32
kanzurehttp://astrometry.net/21:37
kanzurehttp://astrometry.net/gallery.html21:38
kanzurewonder if it's cross-referenced with respect to a star catalog21:38
kanzureone of the freaky awesome things to do would be to make it so that you could click the dots in the images, and find all other photos on flickr with those exact stars21:38
kanzurewhich would be one of those "holy shit these people are too spooky smart"21:38
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kanzurehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_p4t1Buv-I Amazing AeroGarden22:41
kanzure"The AeroGarden is the world's first indoor gardening appliance. Grow fresh herbs, produce, salad greens, flowers and more indoors, with no dirt, weeds or mess."22:41
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