| --- Day changed Sat Feb 21 2009 | ||
| fenn | i'm not convinced the author has anything at alll | 00:00 |
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| gene | what's a UHV | 00:00 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/projects/atoms/ | 00:00 |
| kanzure | ultra-high vacuum | 00:00 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/projects/atoms/ | 00:00 |
| gene | scroll down and read it fenn | 00:00 |
| kanzure | start at the part that mentions 'vacuum' | 00:00 |
| gene | the basic idea | 00:00 |
| fenn | gene: i read it. | 00:00 |
| gene | the whole damn thing? | 00:00 |
| fenn | yes the whole damn thing | 00:00 |
| gene | why? | 00:00 |
| fenn | because it's interesting | 00:01 |
| gene | I don't think you could use thin films | 00:01 |
| fenn | but i think the electrons would just recombine with the positive charges in the walls | 00:01 |
| kanzure | magnetic confinement? | 00:01 |
| gene | that's why you insulate them | 00:01 |
| gene | nope | 00:01 |
| gene | electrostatic | 00:01 |
| fenn | it reminds me of the space fountain for some reason | 00:01 |
| fenn | dynamic compression members | 00:02 |
| gene | BECAUSE IT IS | 00:02 |
| fenn | not exactly | 00:02 |
| fenn | there's no current necessarily | 00:02 |
| fenn | with a space fountain you need a return circuit | 00:02 |
| fenn | "a circuit" | 00:02 |
| gene | http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0704/0704.3466.pdf | 00:03 |
| gene | so here's the basic idea behind the AB tube | 00:03 |
| fenn | btw gene while you're still young i'd suggest making a well sorted index of interesting papers/ideas | 00:03 |
| fenn | so that 20 years down the road you dont have a huge pile of ccrap to sort through | 00:03 |
| kanzure | bibtex for every paper you've ever read | 00:03 |
| * kanzure glances at his archive of every paper he's ever read | 00:03 | |
| gene | you charge the outside of a well insulated rod positively and get electrons inside of it somehow | 00:04 |
| gene | because it's round it means the electrons on the inside experience no force at all attracting them to the walls | 00:04 |
| gene | if your tube is infinitely long and uniform... | 00:05 |
| gene | I think | 00:05 |
| fenn | i dont buy the "electrons experience no force at all attracting them to the walls" | 00:05 |
| fenn | its like the ringworld goofup | 00:06 |
| gene | you must be kidding me | 00:06 |
| fenn | everything's fine when you look at the equations, but when you run the numerical simulation it goes to shit | 00:06 |
| gene | didn't you take highschool physics | 00:06 |
| fenn | yes, equal potential inside of a conductor | 00:06 |
| gene | ever heard of the hollow planet problem? | 00:06 |
| fenn | mathematical masturbation | 00:06 |
| gene | DO NOT INSULT THE MATH GOD! | 00:07 |
| * fenn flings poo! | 00:07 | |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/ede.html math god | 00:07 |
| gene | ok | 00:07 |
| gene | now now | 00:07 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/edeism.html | 00:07 |
| gene | But really I don't see why it wouldn't | 00:07 |
| kanzure | "I learned-if that is the right word for knowledge which comes in a | 00:08 |
| kanzure | sudden flash of insight-I was given to understand that She manipulated | 00:08 |
| kanzure | whole sciences and thought systems as I might string words into a | 00:08 |
| kanzure | sentence. But her "sentences" were as huge and profound as the | 00:08 |
| kanzure | utterances of the universe itself She had reached truths and ways of | 00:08 |
| kanzure | knowing far beyond even the meta-philosophies of the alien Fravashi." | 00:08 |
| * kanzure digresses | 00:08 | |
| fenn | better without that last random sentence | 00:08 |
| gene | can we at least try to make one? | 00:08 |
| fenn | "who are the fravashi" | 00:08 |
| gene | just for the heck of it? | 00:08 |
| fenn | sure, please go ahead, try not to kill yourself or any bystanders | 00:09 |
| gene | I am having trouble figuring out how one would get electrons into it | 00:09 |
| fenn | an electron gun | 00:09 |
| gene | that you shoot through the positively charged outer wall? | 00:10 |
| fenn | seriously though, this shouldnt be your first HV or vacuum project | 00:10 |
| gene | good | 00:10 |
| gene | because it isn't | 00:10 |
| fenn | ah the real world intrudes | 00:10 |
| fenn | the math god is displeased | 00:10 |
| gene | made a weak vacuum pump | 00:10 |
| fenn | with silicone tubing? | 00:11 |
| gene | fenn I FUCKING WORSHIP THE MATH GOD | 00:11 |
| gene | in fact, if I don't my job becomes a lot harder | 00:11 |
| fenn | wha'ts your job? believing whatever you read? :P | 00:11 |
| gene | I'm an engineer | 00:11 |
| gene | in training | 00:11 |
| fenn | O RLY | 00:11 |
| gene | you know all those big buildings? | 00:12 |
| fenn | damn lag.. making me look like an ass | 00:12 |
| gene | math helps | 00:12 |
| gene | ok so first fab lab project | 00:14 |
| gene | make this: | 00:14 |
| kanzure | electrostatic recipricator | 00:14 |
| gene | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_thread/thread/de0d99cdab3a816c | 00:14 |
| gene | nah how about kinetic antigravitators | 00:15 |
| kanzure | because les would like an electrostatic recipricator | 00:15 |
| kanzure | but also because it sounds like a good idea- "not dying" and stuff | 00:15 |
| fenn | OMFG i just realized i forgot the PCB drills | 00:15 |
| kanzure | system failure after all this? | 00:15 |
| * fenn faints dramatically | 00:15 | |
| kanzure | how'd that happen. | 00:15 |
| fenn | by shuffling lots of stuff around between fishtubs (because i couldnt just take them all) | 00:16 |
| gene | fenn I'm sure a drill press will do just fine | 00:16 |
| gene | electrostatic recipricator | 00:16 |
| gene | hmmm.... | 00:17 |
| fenn | cutters/tooling and chucks/fixtures/accessories got sifted and mergedinto "machinist stuff" | 00:17 |
| gene | less chance of sappin | 00:17 |
| fenn | gene: i mean the drill bits | 00:17 |
| gene | semiconductors | 00:17 |
| gene | argh | 00:17 |
| fenn | see, there's nothing more fab-lab than PCB drill bits | 00:18 |
| fenn | it's the icon of post-industrial commodity | 00:18 |
| gene | why? | 00:19 |
| fenn | because they're basically impossible to make on your own | 00:19 |
| gene | what are they made from? | 00:19 |
| fenn | tungsten carbide | 00:19 |
| gene | ok | 00:19 |
| fenn | um, actually iron carbide with tungsten added | 00:20 |
| kanzure | I saw a cool use of tungsten carbide the other day | 00:20 |
| gene | O | 00:20 |
| kanzure | I think it was on how it's made season 10 episode blah, | 00:20 |
| gene | shit | 00:20 |
| kanzure | it was probably drill bits. | 00:20 |
| gene | O'RLY | 00:20 |
| gene | http://www.deskeng.com/articles/aaanjr.htm | 00:20 |
| fenn | gene how do you drill through the pcb? | 00:21 |
| fenn | i guess a laser could work.. wonder why nobody's doing that | 00:21 |
| gene | you make your own damn drill | 00:21 |
| gene | make the drill bit via ECM | 00:21 |
| kanzure | gene: do you have a bookmarks file? | 00:22 |
| gene | yeah | 00:22 |
| gene | a big one | 00:22 |
| kanzure | would you email it to me? | 00:22 |
| kanzure | yeah, we all have big ones | 00:22 |
| kanzure | my bookmarks file is 15,000 and 3.2 MB, but it's in Opera's ADR format | 00:22 |
| gene | why? | 00:22 |
| kanzure | I'd like to see yours | 00:22 |
| gene | o shit | 00:22 |
| kanzure | I collect them, harvest them | 00:22 |
| fenn | you will be assimilated. resistance is futile. | 00:23 |
| kanzure | <linkdump spam> | 00:23 |
| gene | I wonder if I have my old bookmarks folder | 00:23 |
| gene | hehheheheheh | 00:23 |
| gene | though I suspect that my old one suffers from a bit of link rot | 00:23 |
| kanzure | the wayback machine knows all | 00:23 |
| kanzure | yeah, so anyway, a zip file would be neat. | 00:24 |
| gene | well I don't know if it is as big | 00:25 |
| gene | it's not sorted | 00:25 |
| kanzure | that's fine | 00:25 |
| gene | you might find it interesting | 00:29 |
| kanzure | that's why I want it | 00:29 |
| gene | http://www.stuartcanvas.co.uk/sports/cricket/the_hover_cover.html | 00:32 |
| gene | enjoy this for now | 00:32 |
| gene | while I figure out how to send you my bookmarks | 00:32 |
| kanzure | zip file? | 00:33 |
| kanzure | why don't you have a server yet anyway? | 00:33 |
| gene | it's too bad all my flashloop links have rotted though | 00:33 |
| gene | uh | 00:33 |
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| gene | exporting | 00:49 |
| kanzure | lengthy? | 00:49 |
| gene | I don't think it will be too bad | 00:49 |
| gene | btw, how much americium is there in a smoke detector? | 00:49 |
| fenn | it says right on the device | 00:50 |
| gene | in grams not curies | 00:50 |
| fenn | xx microcuries | 00:50 |
| kanzure | fenn: when you said 1 am, you meant in general, right? | 00:51 |
| fenn | probably about 1 gram | 00:51 |
| gene | 1 gram? | 00:51 |
| fenn | not enriched or anything | 00:51 |
| gene | hahahahha | 00:51 |
| fenn | i mean not purified | 00:51 |
| gene | what do you mean not enriched? | 00:51 |
| fenn | i mean the pellet isn't all americium | 00:52 |
| fenn | its some other element that's been bombarded | 00:52 |
| gene | http://www.lateralscience.co.uk/spin/index.html | 00:53 |
| gene | I've heard it's fairly pure | 00:53 |
| fenn | kanzure: either way.. i'm feeling tired now though | 00:53 |
| gene | same here | 00:53 |
| kanzure | it's totally up to you. | 00:54 |
| fenn | ok i'm going to take a shower | 00:54 |
| kanzure | that doesn't tell me | 00:54 |
| fenn | doesnt tell you what? | 00:54 |
| gene | the critical mass of americium is 60 kg so it takes about 60000 smoke detectors to make a nuclear bomb | 00:54 |
| gene | yikes | 00:54 |
| kanzure | whether or not the shower is because you want to go out and about, or if it's because you tend to shower before sleeping | 00:54 |
| fenn | it's because i need a shower | 00:54 |
| kanzure | you sir play a tough game | 00:55 |
| fenn | hah | 00:55 |
| gene | shit | 00:55 |
| fenn | i'm going to take a shower and then go to bed | 00:55 |
| kanzure | okay. | 00:55 |
| gene | I should have gone to bed an hour ago | 00:55 |
| fenn | there's a cat in heat that woke me up early | 00:56 |
| fenn | sounds like she's dying right now | 00:56 |
| gene | ugh | 00:56 |
| * kanzure used to have a kitten that would chase him (playfully) at night | 00:56 | |
| gene | I have a dog, a deviously smart dog | 00:57 |
| kanzure | was not a tiger. | 00:57 |
| gene | not here | 00:57 |
| fenn | TMI | 00:57 |
| kanzure | ? | 00:58 |
| fenn | i know about you anime freaks | 00:58 |
| fenn | I KNOW | 00:58 |
| kanzure | I must be missing a reference | 00:58 |
| gene | pineapple salad fenn | 00:59 |
| kanzure | cats -> dogs -> anime? | 00:59 |
| fenn | deculture! yakk | 00:59 |
| gene | pineapple salad | 00:59 |
| gene | I just don't understand why | 01:00 |
| gene | all for that pineapple salad | 01:00 |
| * fenn goes hunting in the car for a can of pineapples, now that you mention it | 01:01 | |
| kanzure | http://www.yakkdeculture.com/music/ hm. | 01:02 |
| kanzure | minmay.. | 01:03 |
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| kanzure | yay, ted hall posts again to om | 07:48 |
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| kanzure | hm, marcin just called me | 12:25 |
| kanzure | had a good talk | 12:25 |
| kanzure | good thing to wake up to. | 12:25 |
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| wrldpc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntY01qoIdus | 13:47 |
| kanzure | what is it? | 13:55 |
| kanzure | ah, ray's movie | 13:55 |
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| kanzure | gene: bookmarks? | 14:40 |
| gene | ok Now I just need to figure out where I exported them to and remove all my passwords from it | 14:41 |
| gene | jkj | 14:42 |
| gene | I don't keep my passwords on my computer | 14:42 |
| kanzure | :p why would they be in the bookmarks anyway? | 14:50 |
| gene | joking | 14:54 |
| gene | so How do I send them to you? | 14:54 |
| gene | google talk | 14:54 |
| gene | how about via rocket? | 14:55 |
| fenn | lighttpd is about a minute's worth of setup time | 14:56 |
| gene | Kanzure can you give me your coordinates to with 3 feet? | 14:56 |
| gene | sent | 14:59 |
| gene | now listen lulzy muzak | 15:01 |
| gene | *listen to lulzy muzak | 15:01 |
| gene | I dare you | 15:02 |
| gene | http://gsl.erdc.usace.army.mil/gl-history/images/gl_img_99.jpg | 15:08 |
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| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/om.html | 15:34 |
| kanzure | updated the index of interesting threads. | 15:34 |
| kanzure | an attempt was made to keep it in order of interestingness, but it also happens to somewhat match chronological descending order. | 15:34 |
| fenn | "Everyone I know can shit out a government consortium"? | 15:36 |
| kanzure | sarcasm | 15:36 |
| fenn | oh | 15:37 |
| kanzure | or humor, it's kind of a mix | 15:37 |
| fenn | thanks for the index; i doubt i'll ever actually go back and read every message | 15:38 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/bookmarks/gene's_bookmarks.html | 15:38 |
| kanzure | fenn: I don't expect you to go back and read every message | 15:39 |
| kanzure | or anyone for that matter | 15:39 |
| kanzure | it's more so that we can show newbies this index. | 15:39 |
| kanzure | "just look here for interesting stuff to read." | 15:39 |
| kanzure | gene: http://www.rsc.org/publishing/journals/LC/article.asp?doi=b805137b microfluidic assembly blocks | 15:41 |
| kanzure | see, this is why I wanted your bookmarks, | 15:41 |
| kanzure | you probably totally forgot about that | 15:41 |
| kanzure | {" | 15:42 |
| kanzure | One of the runners-up for the biobricks lifeform category of our Mad Science Contest was Jonathan Cline who described what" | 15:42 |
| kanzure | btw, Jonathan Cline has moved to Austin as well, he and I are lunching some time soon | 15:42 |
| kanzure | heh, eric suggests installing some beds on a second floor in the fablab | 15:46 |
| kanzure | because it takes a few hours to get there even for people like me, letting some people stay the weekend to work on projects would be ideal | 15:46 |
| kanzure | I'd pay premium for a fablab hotel | 15:46 |
| kanzure | fwd'd. | 15:49 |
| gene | you know in japan, they have beds in the macdonalds | 16:05 |
| gene | http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/14/mcdonalds-hotel.html | 16:10 |
| gene | pics so it happend | 16:10 |
| gene | http://www.dannychoo.com/adp/eng/1096/Japan+Public+Sleeping.html | 16:11 |
| kanzure | fenn: eh. I've screwed up. natasha is going to stop by the fab lab today. I don't know what you should say to her, since she's more into arts. I think "$225, 80x10, transhumans encouraged". | 16:19 |
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| gene | who is natasha? | 16:42 |
| kanzure | http://natasha.cc/ | 16:50 |
| kanzure | transhumanist, she helped to co-found the Extropy Institute from the 80s | 16:50 |
| kanzure | think: jupiter brains, wearables, etc. | 16:50 |
| kanzure | fenn: how much is a hobby man year? is that "The Weekend Engineer tinkering in his shed" sort of stuff? | 16:53 |
| fenn | heheh "transhumans encouraged" | 16:53 |
| fenn | yes | 16:53 |
| kanzure | okay, she might not be stopping by, but has offered to do dinnre with me and max, so I might take her up on that deal | 16:54 |
| fenn | i cant seem to get any better data than that, since nobody really works on it full time | 16:54 |
| kanzure | sounds like something an academic study should have already covered (but I know they haven't) | 16:54 |
| kanzure | "should have" in the sense of an ideal world where people study reasonably important stuff | 16:54 |
| fenn | freitas set the replication time at 1 year | 16:56 |
| fenn | apparently it's somewhat arbitrary, depending on how much mass you want to ship as the seed | 16:56 |
| * kanzure was just writing a rant in response to your email | 16:56 | |
| kanzure | about mass as the basis for replication time | 16:56 |
| fenn | rant away | 16:56 |
| kanzure | pregnancy trimester length for humans versus whales | 16:56 |
| kanzure | versus amount of time to make a cruise ship versus erect a skyscraper | 16:57 |
| fenn | uh, which is faster? | 16:57 |
| fenn | how about amish barn vs skyscraper | 16:57 |
| kanzure | whales: 14 months. humans: 9 months. skyscraper: 106 days | 16:58 |
| kanzure | 106 days: http://www.ed.uiuc.edu/ups/curriculum2001/construction/phase2narr.html | 16:58 |
| kanzure | wtf? that might be a bad ref on the skyscraper.. | 16:58 |
| kanzure | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090127015621AA2BwZ1 | 16:59 |
| kanzure | oops, mathematical masturbation | 16:59 |
| fenn | that problem should have started with "If the time it takes..." | 17:00 |
| kanzure | I see the question "how long does it take to build a skyscraper" in "exercises for elementary students" pages, | 17:04 |
| kanzure | but no information on the internet | 17:04 |
| kanzure | that's one hard "search the internet" assignment. | 17:04 |
| fenn | question "How do you make a window? Is it easy or hard?" answer "A company makes them. They send them to the construction" ahh modern education.. | 17:04 |
| * kanzure twitches | 17:04 | |
| kanzure | tower of london: 4 years | 17:05 |
| kanzure | eiffel tower: 2 years | 17:06 |
| kanzure | sears tower: 2 years, 9 months | 17:06 |
| fenn | amateurs! | 17:07 |
| fenn | i would like to have a shared transhumanist literature bookshelf | 17:09 |
| fenn | because i can't bring myself to buy this stuff and find out it's just crap | 17:09 |
| kanzure | at the shop? | 17:11 |
| kanzure | or do you mean a "stuff to read" list? because anders has one, max has one, and I think there was even one with a few transhuman FAQs | 17:12 |
| fenn | at the shop | 17:12 |
| kanzure | okay. I'll bring transhuman-related books, scifi, etc., if les is okay with me storing them there | 17:12 |
| fenn | "stuff to read" lists have a habit of getting unreasonably large and unfeasible | 17:12 |
| kanzure | um. another source says the blue whale has a 2 yr pregnancy. | 17:12 |
| kanzure | which is 10 more months than the previous source. | 17:13 |
| kanzure | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.86854 | 17:20 |
| kanzure | "The Death Star Costs $15.6 Septillion" | 17:20 |
| kanzure | "First you'll need about 1.71 quadrillion cubic meters of steel, or, 134 quadrillion tons. That's about $12.95 quintillion (I had no ideas these numbers even existed) by modern day prices. Then, you need to get that into your construction site all the way out there in space, which, costs about $95 million per ton, which adds up to $12.79 septillion just to move your metal." | 17:20 |
| kanzure | hahah, why would you not have it in orbit already | 17:20 |
| fenn | you should become a death star construction consultant "i can save you 90% of death star construction costs!@" | 17:21 |
| gene | I want a wearable | 17:30 |
| gene | hey ask the guys who built isenhorn fortress | 17:30 |
| gene | they'll give you a good estimat | 17:30 |
| gene | damn | 17:31 |
| gene | it's too obscure | 17:32 |
| gene | can't find a google image of it | 17:32 |
| gene | http://www.logh.net/minglogh/LGHmap2.jpg | 17:33 |
| gene | giant self-sustaining fortress with liquid metal covering | 17:34 |
| kanzure | "Eric and I are in broad agreement on how this should be done. He is an extremely intelligent guy." - les | 17:35 |
| kanzure | that's an understatement. I keep wondering "who the fuck is this guy" because he seems to continue to impress.. | 17:36 |
| kanzure | http://yousuckatwebsites.com/web-trends/the-most-infamous-girl-in-the-history-of-the-internet <- so they claim it's not the UT tower because the number of windows is wrong | 17:43 |
| kanzure | but if you look out the window here, there's only three windows per row on the tower | 17:43 |
| fenn | so.. think i could join y'all for dinner tonight? | 17:44 |
| kanzure | just got an email, it's not happening. | 17:44 |
| kanzure | gene: do you want to eat tonight? | 17:44 |
| gene | yeah I saw that one | 17:45 |
| gene | of course I want to eat tonight | 17:45 |
| kanzure | do you want to hang out with fenn and I? | 17:45 |
| kanzure | *me | 17:45 |
| gene | Ah sure why not | 17:45 |
| gene | where? | 17:46 |
| kanzure | hrm | 17:46 |
| kanzure | um. | 17:47 |
| kanzure | there's a restuarant in front of the noodle house (where we ate with dave) | 17:48 |
| kanzure | it happens to also serve chinese food. | 17:48 |
| kanzure | there's also kerbey lane. | 17:49 |
| kanzure | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=food+near+24th+and+Guadalupe,+Austin+TX&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=48.555061,49.306641&ie=UTF8&ll=30.287346,-97.7424&spn=0.006513,0.006019&z=17 | 17:50 |
| fenn | oh no not kerbey lane again | 17:50 |
| kanzure | hm? | 17:50 |
| kanzure | (I think the place in front of the Noodle House is Ming's Cafe) | 17:50 |
| kanzure | is it possible to send a link to google streetview? | 17:52 |
| fenn | yes there's a "link" button in the upper right | 17:52 |
| kanzure | nope, that sends you to the map | 17:52 |
| gene | huh what's this kerbey lane place that everyone talks about ALL THE TIME | 17:53 |
| kanzure | am I missing a ref? | 17:53 |
| gene | around here people go there all the time | 17:53 |
| gene | no | 17:53 |
| kanzure | there's also the castilian cafe, but it closes at 6:30~, and is likely crowded by this time | 17:54 |
| kanzure | (and I get free food here, more or less) | 17:54 |
| kanzure | you're practically right across the street from kerbey lane, gene | 17:54 |
| kanzure | which would explain it. | 17:54 |
| gene | yeah | 17:54 |
| gene | I don't want school food | 17:54 |
| fenn | magnolia cafe has really awesome food btw | 17:55 |
| fenn | but that's the only two restaurants i know in town | 17:55 |
| fenn | it's kinda loud unfortunately | 17:55 |
| kanzure | one's off of South Congress, and the other's off of Lake Austin. | 17:55 |
| kanzure | gee.. | 17:56 |
| gene | we could choose some random barbecue | 17:56 |
| kanzure | how about Madam Mam's? | 17:57 |
| gene | or I could use MOZILLA'S FOODFINDER! | 17:57 |
| kanzure | guess I should be looking for a place that doesn't only serve things fenn won't eat. | 17:57 |
| kanzure | "food near 24th and guadalupe, austin tx" is about the right query. | 17:57 |
| fenn | you'd think they could overlay the map markers on street view | 17:58 |
| gene | hmmm... since your in town fenn, you might actually get an algae steak after all | 17:58 |
| fenn | whee | 17:59 |
| gene | what else are we to do with a tank full of algae? | 18:00 |
| gene | veggie heaven? | 18:00 |
| kanzure | I'd like to try ming's. | 18:00 |
| gene | ok | 18:00 |
| gene | let's do this | 18:00 |
| fenn | huh kerbey lane is a franchise | 18:02 |
| kanzure | it's right after the seven eleven gas station, with some amount of parking right next door at kerbey lane. | 18:02 |
| gene | hey fenn, want to see some reprap parts? | 18:02 |
| fenn | you betcha | 18:03 |
| fenn | do you have the electronics? | 18:03 |
| gene | no | 18:03 |
| fenn | steppers etc | 18:03 |
| gene | no | 18:03 |
| fenn | aw. that' the hard part | 18:03 |
| gene | but somebody else from actlab might | 18:03 |
| gene | who I emailed and didn't email me back | 18:03 |
| fenn | well, half a reprap is no good | 18:04 |
| fenn | anyway i'd like to see one just to get a feel for it | 18:04 |
| gene | I got some of the reprapable parts | 18:04 |
| gene | and I would have more right now, if the damn printer got fixed | 18:05 |
| fenn | "if i only had a lathe" | 18:06 |
| fenn | ming's is under the big tree? | 18:07 |
| gene | what time? | 18:07 |
| kanzure | yes | 18:07 |
| kanzure | whenever fenn gets here I guess | 18:08 |
| fenn | ok I'm off! | 18:08 |
| gene | call me | 18:08 |
| kanzure | ok | 18:09 |
| fenn | heh 'one block after the church of scientology' | 18:11 |
| fenn | you can't miss it! :\ | 18:11 |
| gene | yeah well within range of bombardment... | 18:12 |
| gene | IRC while driving? | 18:12 |
| kanzure | that block *is* my block :( | 18:12 |
| gene | but how? | 18:12 |
| kanzure | iphone? | 18:12 |
| gene | wifi or fancy 3g shit | 18:13 |
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| kanzure | Hey cis-action. | 21:47 |
| cis-action | hey kanzure | 21:48 |
| kanzure | You're a Harvard student? | 21:54 |
| cis-action | noooo | 22:19 |
| cis-action | ha ha misinformation | 22:20 |
| gene | how'd ya do that? | 22:21 |
| gene | are you sitting in an unmarked van on the campus? | 22:21 |
| cis-action | berkman center | 22:22 |
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| kanzure | where should I go to get a listing of all genes in a given organism, cross-referenced to all other possible names of each gene? | 22:37 |
| gene | NCBI | 22:43 |
| kanzure | a list. | 22:47 |
| kanzure | is there something specific from NCBI, or am I going to have to scrape some nasty page | 22:47 |
| kanzure | hm, the kegg genes.tar.gz file actually has a good number of organisms, nevermind | 22:50 |
| kanzure | will just have to parse the file. somehow. | 22:50 |
| kanzure | (the .tar.gz was 14 GB.) | 22:51 |
| gene | look up biology data formats | 23:08 |
| kanzure | why | 23:09 |
| gene | why not? | 23:09 |
| kanzure | well, because I've done that before? | 23:09 |
| kanzure | http://roboeco.com/evolutis | 23:30 |
| kanzure | wtf | 23:30 |
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| kanzure | http://teaminfinity.com/writings/UniversalDNA.txt | 23:41 |
| kanzure | http://web.archive.org/web/19961219032048/http://teaminfinity.com/ | 23:47 |
| kanzure | wtf is this shit? | 23:47 |
| kanzure | http://ewebber.freeshell.org/teaminfinity/chat.html | 23:48 |
| gene | I'm watching the fountain | 23:55 |
| gene | my WTFometer is reading at least 100 per second | 23:55 |
| gene | roboeco reads at 9230, I've never seen anything like this! | 23:58 |
| kanzure | why all of the weird colors | 23:59 |
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