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| kanzure | nice to see david cary posting to om | 07:53 |
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| -!- kanzure changed the topic of #hplusroadmap to: " ... and so was born the Second Law of the Civilized Worlds, which was that Man could not stare too long at the faces of the Computer or her children, and still remain as Man." | 08:05 | |
| -!- kanzure changed the topic of #hplusroadmap to: I am program, programmer, and that which is programmed. | 08:08 | |
| katsmeow-afk | who wrote that first one? | 08:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | medicinedrum.tribe.net ? | 08:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | Damien Broderick - 2001 - Literary Criticism - 466 pages ? | 08:10 |
| kanzure | David Zindell | 08:11 |
| * katsmeow-afk hasto go salvage parts from two IBM 370 data storage cabinets,, 12inch+ harddrives, 240v powersupplies, 500lbs | 08:11 | |
| kanzure | (is the author of both) | 08:11 |
| kanzure | katsmeow-afk: good luck. | 08:11 |
| kanzure | bring me back a souveniour. | 08:11 |
| katsmeow-afk | thanks | 08:11 |
| kanzure | preferably not the 500 lb gorilla though | 08:11 |
| katsmeow-afk | prolly useless, but i can retask parts | 08:11 |
| katsmeow-afk | the pwr supply capacitors in these things are each larger than 10 modern 2.5 harddrives taped together | 08:12 |
| katsmeow-afk | there's 2 24inch fanfold printers too, scrapped | 08:13 |
| kanzure | todo: fix find-all-cutsets.py unit test errors | 08:40 |
| kanzure | add in a few more unit tests from the papers (er, for given successful cutsets I mean) | 08:40 |
| kanzure | then throw in some code for the extract-state-quations.py script | 08:41 |
| kanzure | *equations | 08:41 |
| * kanzure waddles off | 08:41 | |
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| ybit | "Inkjet Printing of Viable Mammalian Cells" http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.biomaterials.2004.04.011 | 09:29 |
| ybit | http://filebin.ca/gprkwz | 09:33 |
| ybit | anyone have access to "Three dimensional MEMS microfluidic perfusion system for thick brain slice cultures." :: http://www.springerlink.com/content/v822077208022653/ | 10:05 |
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| Traveler25 | http://transhumanistforums.com/hplusroadmapchat/ | 10:57 |
| Traveler25 | now you have a URL to send people to, with a java applet that lets them connect directly to this chatroom | 10:58 |
| Traveler25 | (or did you already have a java chat applet at another URL?) | 11:00 |
| Utopiah | you can add http://mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.freenode.net&channel=%23hplusroadmap if you want too, works well | 11:03 |
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| Traveler25 | thanks | 11:07 |
| Traveler25 | bye | 11:25 |
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| katsmeow-afk | http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/newin7/content/IntegratedGenomicAndProteinData/ | 14:55 |
| katsmeow-afk | you can search for Search in wolfram | 14:55 |
| xp_prg | hell ya kats! | 15:20 |
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| kanzure | rawr | 17:32 |
| fenn | THUNDARR | 17:34 |
| fenn | (the barbarian) | 17:34 |
| kanzure | 804 bytes/sec. all 804 of them! | 17:38 |
| kanzure | this message took 18 seconds to transmit | 17:39 |
| kanzure | ybit: http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/Inkjet%20printing%20of%20viable%20mammalian%20cells.pdf | 17:42 |
| kanzure | ybit: http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/%20Three%20dimensional%20MEMS%20microfluidic%20perfusion%20system%20for%20thick%20brain%20slice%20cultures.pdf | 17:43 |
| kanzure | "weird places microfluidics.tar.gz shows up on kanzure's filesystems" | 17:44 |
| kanzure | place #1: /home/bryan/lab/functionCAD/microfluidics_2009-06-01.zip | 17:45 |
| kanzure | er, did you remove it from /home/bryan/lab/functionCAD/ already? | 17:46 |
| kanzure | so here's a line of output from find-all-cutsets.py | 17:52 |
| kanzure | function cutset: graph is <graph object [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] [(6, 4), (4, 6), (5, 7), (4, 7), (7, 4), (7, 5), (4, 2), (5, 3), (2, 4), (3, 5)]> | 17:52 |
| kanzure | the first part of the pygraph.graph object is a list of the nodes in the graph | 17:52 |
| kanzure | the second part is a list of pairs where each pair specifies an edge | 17:53 |
| kanzure | here's the following line of output from the program: | 17:53 |
| kanzure | removing: fromNode = 4 toNode = 6 | 17:53 |
| kanzure | er I guess it's important to mention that the order of the nodes in those arc tuples is (from, to). | 17:53 |
| kanzure | er | 17:53 |
| kanzure | right, so | 17:54 |
| kanzure | it first removes (6,4) | 17:54 |
| kanzure | then the graph looks like this: | 17:54 |
| kanzure | function cutset: graph is <graph object [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] [(5, 7), (4, 7), (7, 4), (7, 5), (4, 2), (5, 3), (2, 4), (3, 5)]> | 17:54 |
| kanzure | then it tries to remove (4,6) for some reason | 17:54 |
| kanzure | I'm not quite sure why. obviously pygraph is smart enough (with del_edge()) to delete both backwardly and forwardly | 17:54 |
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| kanzure | :set number | 18:02 |
| kanzure | pstree | 18:03 |
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| kanzure | addiction: http://sata.serveftp.org/~bryan/vim.txt | 18:20 |
| kanzure | "split" is a nifty tool. don't know how well it operates with --bytes=2147483648 though | 18:34 |
| * ybit just got back from a long day at work, thanks for the fetching one of the MEMS paper kanzure | 18:40 | |
| kanzure | wait, what about the other one? | 18:40 |
| ybit | i already had access to it :P | 18:41 |
| * ybit had posted the link | 18:41 | |
| kanzure | bah. | 18:41 |
| ybit | thanks for it too, happy? ;) | 18:42 |
| ybit | tornado siren is going off | 18:42 |
| kanzure | we don't get our own tornado sirens :( | 18:42 |
| ybit | too bad it's only 100 yards away from my house | 18:42 |
| ybit | i could die tonight, just to let you all know this | 18:43 |
| ybit | because i'm not taking shelter | 18:43 |
| kanzure | if you give me your coords, the x-jet can be there in 3 minutes | 18:43 |
| * ybit wants to eat and read the MEMS paper | 18:43 | |
| ybit | haha | 18:43 |
| xp_prg | anyone have any video of this inkjet printing of cells? | 19:01 |
| ybit | sorry william, can't find one, didn't really search too hard, but you might try emailing the lead researcher and if he sends some multimedia your way, share it with us :) | 19:08 |
| ybit | i've yet to read it index.ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/10/28058/01254003.pdf | 19:08 |
| ybit | "Characterization of Implantable Microfabricated Fluid Delivery Devices" | 19:08 |
| xp_prg | I saw it! | 19:10 |
| xp_prg | its at the bottom! | 19:10 |
| xp_prg | oh man do I want to do that!!! | 19:11 |
| xp_prg | that just made my whole day | 19:11 |
| ybit | the bottom of? | 19:14 |
| ybit | congrats, we both had our whole day made (i wasn't blown away) | 19:15 |
| ybit | a few interesting papers listed :: http://www.biochem.mpg.de/mnphys/publications/index.html | 19:18 |
| kanzure | neurotransmitter receptor and field-effect transistor interface | 19:19 |
| kanzure | hah | 19:19 |
| xp_prg | you weren't blown away, why? | 19:19 |
| kanzure | that's sufficiently awesome | 19:19 |
| kanzure | xp_prg: because the tornado didn't hit me. | 19:19 |
| kanzure | what's so hard to understand | 19:19 |
| kanzure | *hit him | 19:19 |
| xp_prg | kanzure what is this neurotransimitter thing what? | 19:19 |
| kanzure | what are you asking? | 19:19 |
| xp_prg | neurotransmitter receptor and field-effect transistor interface | 19:20 |
| kanzure | what about it? | 19:21 |
| xp_prg | tell me more about it please, how does that work? | 19:21 |
| kanzure | well how about you read the paper? | 19:21 |
| ybit | read the paper :P | 19:21 |
| kanzure | http://www.biochem.mpg.de/mnphys/publications/09peifro/index.html | 19:21 |
| kanzure | what the fuck is wrong with you | 19:21 |
| kanzure | gah | 19:21 |
| xp_prg | kanzure do you understand how the inkjet printer works with cells? | 19:22 |
| kanzure | which inkjet printer? | 19:22 |
| kanzure | ybit: none of those titles of the abstracts or paper thingies are showing up on google scholar, even the one that was published in 2007 | 19:23 |
| kanzure | are we sure those papers are published? | 19:23 |
| xp_prg | http://singularityhub.com/2009/06/08/growing-organs-in-the-lab/ | 19:23 |
| kanzure | oh, I haven't read that yet | 19:23 |
| kanzure | how about you read the paper? | 19:23 |
| xp_prg | you posted it | 19:23 |
| kanzure | okay? | 19:23 |
| kanzure | you don't even read my emails | 19:23 |
| kanzure | you asked me "what's this email about" | 19:24 |
| xp_prg | yes I do! | 19:24 |
| kanzure | before even reading it today | 19:24 |
| kanzure | uh? | 19:24 |
| kanzure | I got an email today from some guy named tim asking "what is this about" re: the electronics workbench inventory | 19:24 |
| xp_prg | oh man, you taking the excitement out of this | 19:24 |
| kanzure | it was all over diybio | 19:24 |
| kanzure | well maybe you should just read the emails first :) | 19:24 |
| kanzure | just saying. it kind of helps. | 19:24 |
| kanzure | it also makes things more exciting to read. | 19:24 |
| xp_prg | ya but electronics workbench to do what? | 19:24 |
| ybit | heh | 19:24 |
| kanzure | what the fuck man | 19:25 |
| kanzure | ybit: do you understand me? | 19:25 |
| xp_prg | you mentioned getting an electronics workbench, but you didn't explain what it was for | 19:25 |
| kanzure | why not just read wikipedia | 19:25 |
| ybit | kanzure: yup, plenty of info on teh interwebs | 19:25 |
| kanzure | ybit: so I think we can agree that I shouldn't have to explain this to xp_prg | 19:26 |
| kanzure | it doesn't seem particularly hard to understand, or to google or anything | 19:26 |
| kanzure | rtfm and stfu | 19:26 |
| xp_prg | kanzure you mentioned getting electronics equipment but you never mentioned what you wanted to use it for *sigh* | 19:26 |
| kanzure | so what? | 19:26 |
| kanzure | what does that have to do with reading the email | 19:26 |
| kanzure | all that I said is that you didn't read it | 19:26 |
| xp_prg | I did read it | 19:26 |
| kanzure | you just said "what is electronics for" or something | 19:26 |
| xp_prg | too hard I give up | 19:27 |
| kanzure | ok so don't bug me if you're going to give up | 19:27 |
| kanzure | go away | 19:27 |
| kanzure | Field-Effect Transistor with Recombinant Potassium Channels: Fast and Slow Response by Electrical and Chemical Interactions | 19:28 |
| kanzure | huh Google Scholar is now "Google scholar" for some reason | 19:29 |
| kanzure | (in the logo) | 19:29 |
| kanzure | that wasn't as cool as I thought it would be | 19:33 |
| kanzure | I thought it would have been a transistor binding to some binding domain on an ion channel protein thingy | 19:34 |
| kanzure | "Imaging neuronal seal resistance on silicon chip using fluorescent voltage-sensitive dye " | 19:35 |
| kanzure | (voltage sensitive dyes are pretty neat in general) | 19:35 |
| kanzure | "Enzyme Induced Staining of Biomembranes with Voltage-Sensitive Fluorescent Dyes " | 19:35 |
| kanzure | http://192.168.1.108/svn-co-cmd.sh | 20:17 |
| kanzure | http://code.google.com/p/python-graph/downloads/list?can=4&q=&colspec=Filename+Summary+Uploaded+Size+DownloadCount | 20:39 |
| fenn | scrood graph theory | 20:52 |
| kanzure | scrood? | 20:54 |
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| kanzure | ok, now to make up unit tests that intentionally fail, or something | 21:03 |
| fenn | unit tests, then ship it, then "bug fixes" to enable the actual features | 21:04 |
| kanzure | do we get to charge for the actual features before shipping? | 21:04 |
| kanzure | todo: run autoscholar science pdf paper reader thingy on giant television (instead of dumb tv) | 21:05 |
| kanzure | gah there's such a thing as a "cycle cutset" | 21:10 |
| kanzure | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cutset-2.svg | 21:10 |
| kanzure | guess that'll be a test | 21:10 |
| kanzure | dah? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cutset-4.svg | 21:11 |
| kanzure | it's a "decomposition method" apparently | 21:11 |
| kanzure | how do I find where it is used? "What links here" doesn't have anything really | 21:12 |
| kanzure | but does that mean that no page includes it as an image? | 21:12 |
| kanzure | or just about linking? | 21:12 |
| fenn | uh oh | 21:15 |
| fenn | Since you haven't been a student in recent years, it is taking extra time to get your appointment through the system. I'm hoping that everything will be straightened out by the next go-round. | 21:15 |
| kanzure | uh? | 21:15 |
| kanzure | can you forward that to me? | 21:17 |
| kanzure | aha. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decomposition_method_(constraint_satisfaction)?uselang=en thanks #wikipedia | 21:18 |
| kanzure | although I'm not happy it leads to an article about constraint satisfaction problems | 21:18 |
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| DrTread | Is the graph theory gone? Is it safe to come back in teh interwebz nao? | 22:09 |
| kanzure | no | 22:15 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLIW | 22:15 |
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| DrTread | ok, i'll stay clear | 22:25 |
| DrTread | lessee... if we have 256 bit instruction word, we could pretty well take up the known universe with the hash table | 22:26 |
| DrTread | but we could compute anything with only a few dozen clock cycles | 22:27 |
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| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run-length_encoding | 23:05 |
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| kanzure | http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2705.html | 23:30 |
| kanzure | hi digitaltao | 23:30 |
| digitaltao | hello there | 23:30 |
| kanzure | you seem to be in my geographical area, would you like to take over the city with me tomorrow? | 23:31 |
| kanzure | we launch at dawn. | 23:31 |
| digitaltao | sounds, epic. | 23:32 |
| digitaltao | nefarious plans are indeed abound. | 23:32 |
| digitaltao | who will hack the gibson o_O? | 23:34 |
| kanzure | the guy with the beard | 23:34 |
| kanzure | (the unix hacker) | 23:34 |
| digitaltao | you have a beard! | 23:35 |
| digitaltao | i elect you. | 23:35 |
| kanzure | woah, hold on that | 23:35 |
| kanzure | er | 23:35 |
| digitaltao | -holding....... | 23:36 |
| DrTread | kanzure he's right. you DO have a beard. #iranelection has shown you the way. | 23:41 |
| DrTread | now start taking over. | 23:41 |
| digitaltao | lulz | 23:46 |
| digitaltao | anyone in here familiar with the ybox? | 23:47 |
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