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| fenn | why do people have to make up all these silly new words | 00:48 |
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| any11516546 | to be the only one who knows of what they speak | 00:48 |
| fenn | this is just basic pulse density modulation: http://www.bionet.ee.columbia.edu/code/intro/introduction.html | 00:49 |
| fenn | but nooo they have to call it "a Time Encoding Machine" | 00:49 |
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| kanzure | this just in: robot porn discovered etched into sides of cave walls from a bajillion years ago. | 01:04 |
| kanzure | Parijata: lisp might be my favorite language | 01:06 |
| kanzure | oh no | 01:06 |
| * ybit wonders if it was the language taught to her in school | 01:08 | |
| ybit | MIT students tend to favorite LISP after being taught it in school, so i've noticed | 01:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | ybit is a her? | 01:09 |
| ybit | ybit: is a he | 01:09 |
| ybit | er.. | 01:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | [01:06] * ybit wonders if it was the language taught to her in school | 01:09 |
| * ybit is a he | 01:09 | |
| ybit | was referring to parijata | 01:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | o | 01:09 |
| ybit | s/favorite/favor | 01:10 |
| ybit | time for bed | 01:10 |
| katsmeow-afk | iagree | 01:10 |
| kanzure | http://www.cs.washington.edu/orgs/student-affairs/cseband/studio/Theory%20Girl.mp3 | 01:10 |
| QuantumG | LISP isn't a language.. languages have syntax. | 01:17 |
| katsmeow-afk | heh | 01:17 |
| katsmeow-afk | (((LISP) isn't) a) language).. languages have syntax. | 01:17 |
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| QuantumG | http://io9.com/5306489/a-drug-that-could-give-you-perfect-visual-memory | 01:25 |
| QuantumG | RGS-14 eh | 01:26 |
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| fenn | marainein: so if your nick has nothing to do with Iain Banks, what's it about? | 04:50 |
| marainein | hey fenn | 04:50 |
| marainein | i think you may have asked me this question a long time ago | 04:50 |
| fenn | yes | 04:51 |
| marainein | it's an ancient greek word, means 'fading', but i picked it mainly because i needed a nick and i liked the sounds | 04:51 |
| marainein | how did the project to brute force discover a self-replicating machine turn out? | 04:54 |
| fenn | it's coming along | 04:54 |
| fenn | i've been doing some work on representing manufacturing processes | 04:54 |
| marainein | is there anything i can look at? | 04:55 |
| fenn | yes, this is the current version as of today (updating is not automatic for some reason..) http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/ | 04:58 |
| marainein | i actually had in mind photos of machines... | 04:59 |
| fenn | skdb.py and processes.yaml is most of the goods | 04:59 |
| fenn | what would be the point of photos? | 04:59 |
| fenn | right now there arent even any particular machines in mind | 04:59 |
| fenn | i did make some drawings http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/fenn/pngs/ | 05:00 |
| marainein | what sort of timeline are we looking at? | 05:01 |
| fenn | no idea | 05:01 |
| fenn | several months | 05:01 |
| fenn | maybe years | 05:01 |
| fenn | i could use help entering data | 05:04 |
| marainein | what exactly are you entering? | 05:04 |
| fenn | so far all the data has come from this book http://books.google.com/books?id=6x1smAf_PAcC | 05:05 |
| marainein | what does this book cover? everything to do with manufacturing? | 05:08 |
| fenn | just processes, and a rather limited subset of that | 05:08 |
| fenn | mostly things having to do with mechanical engineering | 05:09 |
| fenn | so no chemical reactions besides hardening and surface finish stuff | 05:09 |
| fenn | but there's some interest in doing biology and organic chemistry | 05:09 |
| marainein | as part of the self replicating machine? | 05:11 |
| fenn | maybe | 05:11 |
| fenn | i have some ideas for a hybrid DNA/inorganic computer | 05:11 |
| fenn | since chip fab is not simple in terms of technological infrastructure required | 05:12 |
| marainein | true | 05:12 |
| marainein | but there's a lot more knowledge about using silicon based IT than DNA based IT out there | 05:13 |
| fenn | yeah it wouldnt be like what you normally hear about with "DNA computing" or "genetic circuits" | 05:13 |
| fenn | more like plugging legos together randomly | 05:14 |
| marainein | what are the stumbling blocks to building chips (on a small scale)? | 05:15 |
| fenn | etching stuff you mean? | 05:15 |
| marainein | yeah | 05:15 |
| fenn | gotta make ultrapure silicon, dopants, mask, precision optics, high voltage electric stuff, high vacuum, and on and on | 05:16 |
| marainein | and it's all necessary? we can't relax the standards and get chip technology that's equivalent to a few decades old but still useful? | 05:18 |
| fenn | yep | 05:18 |
| fenn | newer stuff is just lots harder to make | 05:18 |
| fenn | now, you dont need IC's to make a computer | 05:19 |
| fenn | but i start wondering about whether it's useful to have something that replicates every ten years | 05:19 |
| marainein | *muses* | 05:21 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: I posted a paper to diytranshumanism about how to synthesize RGS-14 (rapamycin). | 05:40 |
| kanzure | heh I just saw an ad on tv for http://behumane.org/ as if there's a do-not-be-humane.org website out there? wtf | 06:24 |
| drazak | isn't rapamycin an anti-biotic? | 06:49 |
| drazak | immunosuppresant | 06:49 |
| drazak | rapamycin is big | 06:50 |
| drazak | and it has 14 stereocenters | 06:51 |
| drazak | yields can't be that high | 06:51 |
| kanzure | "Total synthesis of rapamycin" | 07:01 |
| drazak | yeah | 07:02 |
| drazak | and you have to purify it what | 07:02 |
| drazak | 20 times? | 07:02 |
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| kanzure | which reminds me, I've been meaning to come up with a list of esoteric methods of protein purification | 07:38 |
| kanzure | SDS-PAGE and HPLC are common but not exactly easy | 07:38 |
| kanzure | hahah. on diybio "don't worry. the government will take care of things so that people don't cause danger." | 07:48 |
| kanzure | I'm surprised that guy is able to think without hurting myself. | 07:49 |
| kanzure | on one episode of "The Magic School Bus", the school gets a computer, so the wheelchair-accessible kid writes a program and then gives every student a job to do: "ok, take this cord and attach it to the coffee maker. attach this one to the flag pole. attach this one to the doors. attach this one to the bell. attach this one to the speaker system." and then it all magically works and they live happily ever after. | 07:58 |
| kanzure | "Body clock disruption brings on manic behavior" http://postbiota.org/pipermail/tt/2007-March/000121.html | 08:15 |
| kanzure | (paper: Mania-like behavior induced by disruption of CLOCK) | 08:15 |
| kanzure | any ideas why this doesn't work? scp `ls -FAt -1 --quoting-style=c | head` bryan@adl.serveftp.org:/var/www/papers/ | 08:24 |
| kanzure | scp seems to think each individual word is a filename, even though it's quoted. | 08:24 |
| kanzure | hm. maybe I need to do: `echo `ls -FAt -1 --quoting-style=c | head`` | 08:25 |
| kanzure | of course, I should just be using rsync :p | 08:26 |
| kanzure | Mania-like behavior induced by disruption of CLOCK | 08:36 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/Mania-like%20behavior%20induced%20by%20disruption%20of%20CLOCK.pdf | 08:36 |
| kanzure | wrote an email about some paper-reading-sharing-software I would like to eventually write: http://groups.google.com/group/diytranshumanist/browse_frm/thread/b5b72c9c7a2a81a6 | 09:03 |
| ybit | http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/scribo-getting-natural-language-into-the-mix/ | 09:06 |
| ybit | http://www.scribo.ws/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome :: "SCRIBO - Semi-automatic and Collaborative Retrieval of Information Based on Ontologies - aims at algorithms and collaborative free software for the automatic extraction of knowledge from texts and images, and for the semi-automatic annotation of digital documents." | 09:07 |
| kanzure | is it a wiki module? | 09:08 |
| ybit | no, it's more for semantic desktop work being done | 09:15 |
| ybit | it's what sebastian does. | 09:16 |
| ybit | kanzure: /me was reading your autoscholar email | 09:16 |
| ybit | among others | 09:16 |
| ybit | science can be art, but can be science? | 09:17 |
| ybit | but can art be science* | 09:17 |
| kanzure | why are you asking that? | 09:23 |
| kanzure | er, does that have something to do with my email? | 09:23 |
| kanzure | ybit: just wrote another email about a way for me to keep track of everyone via an email system. | 09:27 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/diytranshumanist/browse_frm/thread/da6ee0594580dc1f | 09:28 |
| kanzure | already talked about that in here, just posting it there for prosperity's sake. | 09:28 |
| kanzure | "- the home versioning idea is indeed a good one. it somehow reminds me of the wanna-be TimeMachine of Leopard, except that you have total control over it. with my hierarchy, I rarely have a need to 'go back': what doesn't belong to the tree is outdated, and gets moved in a 'archives' accumulating directory. now that I think of it, this 'archives' dir is just like the .git dir, except it's manually managed. also I was thinking of having the home files hardlinked into archives (on a 'commit'), so that I can just delete a file and it would still be on 'archives', while not taking anymore place when not yet deleted. I'll have to think of it and read those articles above. " | 09:34 |
| kanzure | ( from http://heybryan.org/folders.html ) | 09:35 |
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| ybit | kanzure: re:email overload | 09:55 |
| ybit | i went from 14k unread email messages to 0 unread..in my inbox | 09:55 |
| ybit | i have unread mail, but, the numbers escape me because i have filters and labels setup in gmail | 09:56 |
| ybit | i know i should be using a better email client, but the point is filters and labels | 09:56 |
| ybit | 14k to 0 in about 8 hours, took me awhile to sort through all my email subscriptions and personal contacts | 09:57 |
| ybit | and had some interesting reminders from emails i had forgotten about | 09:57 |
| kanzure | asking Jef about his knowledge of nodal analysis. he claims he's working on that right now. "Ecologies are nodal. Inteliigence within ecologies is hierarchical to the extent that it is asapted to changing environment." | 09:58 |
| ybit | there were so many emails too that i had skipped over, my uni. was going to do some type of student spotlight on me in the Fall but i completely missed it, emails from professors,etc. | 09:58 |
| kanzure | ybit: all of those unread emails are purposefully unread, actually. I'm fairly good at actually reading emails that I need to read or am interested in reading. | 09:58 |
| ybit | kanzure: how did you hear of emacs org-mode | 10:06 |
| ybit | i like it | 10:06 |
| kanzure | alec resnick | 10:07 |
| kanzure | http://evodevouniverse.com/wiki/Bibliography | 10:09 |
| ybit | fenn: where is http://fennetic.net/sleep/ ? | 10:30 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org:8080/sleep/ | 10:31 |
| ybit | is there a key to identify the colors? | 10:41 |
| kanzure | no | 10:47 |
| kanzure | one is programming, another is sleep, another is random internet activity | 10:48 |
| kanzure | another is domestics | 10:48 |
| kanzure | I think you might be able to figure out which is which just by looking at it, but he really should have a key somewhere | 10:48 |
| * kanzure decides to upgrade django via "svn co http://code.djangoproject.com/svn/django/trunk/" | 10:49 | |
| kanzure | huh, that didn't help | 10:55 |
| kanzure | what is the name of the isolation chamber that some people like to use as a place to think? not a hyperbaric chamber, but something else | 11:00 |
| kanzure | (was just wondering if in a sufficiently dark room whether or not the infrared fluorescent proteins (being used as voltage sensors in the brain) could be detected by human sight in a sufficiently dark chamber, and given infrared filters | 11:00 |
| kanzure | ) | 11:01 |
| kanzure | aha | 11:11 |
| kanzure | http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3051 | 11:11 |
| kanzure | bastards. that should have been in the documentation. | 11:11 |
| splicer | isn't it just called flotation tank? | 11:19 |
| kanzure | oh | 11:19 |
| kanzure | "isolation tank" | 11:19 |
| kanzure | thanks | 11:19 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_tank | 11:19 |
| splicer | "sensory deprivation tank" | 11:20 |
| splicer | for some reason the center for disease control here have renamed swineflu to "The new flu". | 11:22 |
| kanzure | "The physicist Richard Feynman's experiences in a sensory deprivation tank were documented in the popular book Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!. Feynman was invited to try the isolation tank at John Lilly's home after Lilly attended one of Feynman's popular lectures on quantum mechanics. " | 11:22 |
| ybit | argh, autolog off | 11:36 |
| kanzure | c.get("/").context[0].dicts[0].keys().__contains__("folders_for_index") #gah. how unpythonic. | 11:39 |
| kanzure | er, I mean | 11:39 |
| kanzure | django.test.client.Client().get("/").context[0].dicts[0].keys().__contains__("folders_for_index") #gah. how unpythonic. | 11:39 |
| kanzure | django.test.client.Client().get("/").context[0].dicts[0]["folders_for_index"][0]["name"] | 11:44 |
| * kanzure cries | 11:44 | |
| kanzure | hm. so type(pydjangitwiki.wiki.views.index(django.http.HttpRequest(),"/")) == type(django.test.client.Client().get("/")) but only hasattr(object,"context") is true for the second one and not the first. I need it to be true for the first.. | 12:12 |
| ybit | the taxonomy image is much easier to read now | 13:14 |
| ybit | very nice too | 13:15 |
| ybit | something that should be on the science channel screensaver :) | 13:17 |
| ybit | what does the 'bcm' stand for in bcm theory? | 13:21 |
| ybit | brain connectivity model... | 13:22 |
| ybit | i dunno | 13:22 |
| kanzure | what is bcm? | 13:22 |
| ybit | body cell mass | 13:22 |
| kanzure | no, what is bcm theory? | 13:22 |
| ybit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCM_theory | 13:22 |
| kanzure | how do they know that LTP and LTD has not been observed in all cortical systems | 13:24 |
| kanzure | *have not | 13:24 |
| ybit | http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=VNetYrB8EBoC | 13:24 |
| kanzure | might be the fix: http://www.stonemind.net/blog/2007/01/12/small-django-tips-from-one-newbie-to-another/ | 13:37 |
| kanzure | oh well. note to self: manually edit settings.py to change the repo dir back to something more sane. | 13:52 |
| kanzure | hm git-python wants to only create bare repositories | 14:02 |
| kanzure | that's kind of annoying | 14:02 |
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| kanzure | http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1299495&cid=28660191 how we lost two chromosomes | 14:33 |
| ybit | http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=pcr-at-home | 14:36 |
| ybit | wow, i'm slightly behind | 14:37 |
| kanzure | ybit: you should be focusing on "how the fuck to purify Taq polymerase at home" | 14:37 |
| ybit | http://heybryan.org/books/papers/Low%20cost%20approach%20to%20PCR%20-%202007.pdf | 14:37 |
| kanzure | yeah :) | 14:37 |
| ybit | kanzure: i will when i get there | 14:38 |
| kanzure | what? | 14:38 |
| kanzure | PCR requires polymerase | 14:38 |
| ybit | yeah, but i'm not quite there yet | 14:39 |
| kanzure | tubular protein precipitation reactors look interesting | 14:45 |
| kanzure | no moving parts :) | 14:46 |
| kanzure | except the liquids | 14:47 |
| kanzure | FAQ on diy protein skimmers: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/DIYskimrfaqs.htm | 14:58 |
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| kanzure | http://www.ent.ohiou.edu/~guting/CHROM/ chromatography simulator | 16:17 |
| kanzure | http://www.discoveriesinmedicine.com/Bar-Cod/Chromatography.html | 17:00 |
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| kanzure | is there a way to recover materials from thin-layer chromatography? | 17:12 |
| kanzure | direct elution maybe? | 17:13 |
| kanzure | "Vacuum distillation for the recovery of samples following thin-layer chromatography" | 17:13 |
| kanzure | maybe some acetone or something | 17:13 |
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| genehacker | for the DNA synth I presume | 17:25 |
| genehacker | I found a way to make THF | 17:25 |
| genehacker | with help from the dark side | 17:26 |
| kanzure | I wonder if a wax chromatography packing material makes any sense. you can make tiny wax beads by dripping hot wax into icy cold water. then you pack a column of it. and run your proteins through it. | 17:29 |
| kanzure | does anyone remember the paper about using bladders and mammary glands as bioreactors? | 17:36 |
| kanzure | i want to make taq titties | 17:36 |
| kanzure | for the love of the internet, this must happen | 17:36 |
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| genehacker | I loled | 18:09 |
| genehacker | oh still on the taq thing | 18:10 |
| genehacker | drazak said it'd be hard | 18:10 |
| genehacker | you need a temperature controlled bioreactor | 18:10 |
| genehacker | drazak thinks that this would be hard | 18:13 |
| genehacker | because of the seals and all | 18:13 |
| kanzure | taq polymerase can be engineered to be even more thermostable | 18:14 |
| kanzure | by slowly expanding its effective range | 18:15 |
| genehacker | why only taq? | 18:15 |
| genehacker | there are plenty of other polymerases out there | 18:15 |
| genehacker | taq is obsolete I think | 18:15 |
| genehacker | btw could you use chromatography to make really pure THF and phosgene? | 18:18 |
| genehacker | btw you can get THF from PVC pipe cement | 18:20 |
| drazak | genehacker: taq is generally what's used in pcr | 18:29 |
| drazak | maybe I'm nuts, I just think it's harder than it sounds | 18:29 |
| genehacker | things are always harder than they sound and that's a rule | 18:30 |
| kanzure | you can do selection experiments on taq polymerase processing its own dna | 18:30 |
| kanzure | and you vary the temperatures just a little more and more | 18:30 |
| kanzure | until you get a broader range of effective "super taq polymerase" | 18:31 |
| drazak | maybe | 18:34 |
| drazak | controlled evolution much? | 18:34 |
| kanzure | directed evolution, you mean? | 18:54 |
| kanzure | in vitro compartmentalization? | 18:54 |
| kanzure | genehacker: I've been thinking of a lazy susan for a liquid chromatograph apparatus | 18:55 |
| kanzure | http://www.amishshowroom.com/images/4735%20Octagon%20Lazy%20Susan.jpg | 18:56 |
| kanzure | lazy susan bearing: http://woodzone.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Lazy_susan_lg.jpg | 18:56 |
| kanzure | "Words are not the natural language of engineers. Drawings are their prose, mathematics their grammar and differential equations their poetry. " - Glegg | 19:11 |
| kanzure | bah | 19:11 |
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| kanzure | so this order works: mkdir tmpdir; cd tmpdir; git init; cd ..; git clone --bare tmpdir/ bare/; but doing a bare repo first doesn't? is that how it is supposed to be? | 19:42 |
| drazak | yes | 19:44 |
| drazak | git is broken | 19:45 |
| drazak | use mercurial | 19:45 |
| kanzure | how is git broken? | 19:45 |
| kanzure | hey alx1 | 20:33 |
| fenn | "what is the name of the isolation chamber..." sensory deprivation tank? | 20:39 |
| fenn | oh /me continues reading the log | 20:39 |
| kanzure | sorry fenn, splicer won that round | 20:39 |
| fenn | tit for taq | 20:43 |
| kanzure | http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1299495&cid=28660191 | 20:52 |
| alx1 | kanzure, hiya | 21:02 |
| kanzure | what's up alx1? | 21:11 |
| fenn | anyone know what percentage of christians believe in creationism? | 21:18 |
| kanzure | GitCommandError: "['git', 'clone', '--bare', '/tmp/tmprepo/', '/tmp/bare-repo/'] returned exit status 128" | 21:18 |
| kanzure | and /tmp/tmprepo/ does indeed exist | 21:18 |
| kanzure | do I have to do an update-server-info before creating a bare repository? | 21:19 |
| fenn | maybe /tmp/bare-repo shouldnt exist | 21:19 |
| kanzure | doing that on the shell works fine.. just not through python | 21:19 |
| kanzure | why shouldn't it exist? | 21:19 |
| fenn | no, dont need update-server-info | 21:19 |
| fenn | because git complains that there's a directory there already | 21:19 |
| kanzure | is that what 128 means? | 21:20 |
| fenn | numeric error codes are so 1980's | 21:20 |
| fenn | what happens when you do the same thing from shell? | 21:21 |
| kanzure | it works fine | 21:22 |
| kanzure | somehow I have resolved the error | 21:22 |
| kanzure | the commit diffs on github should have some inkling of a clue as to what I have done to fix it | 21:23 |
| fenn | maybe | 21:23 |
| fenn | btw how do i update git-wiki? | 21:24 |
| kanzure | what are you asking? | 21:24 |
| fenn | you said "repository" isnt the real thing | 21:24 |
| kanzure | it's in /var/www/git-wiki2/ is the current installation path. | 21:24 |
| kanzure | IIRC, it's using /home/bryan/sandbox/ | 21:24 |
| fenn | ok then what, step by step | 21:24 |
| kanzure | log in. figure out what's in /home/bryan/sandbox/ | 21:25 |
| kanzure | choose the thing that looks like a sandbox for git-wiki | 21:25 |
| kanzure | sarcasm~~~~~~~~~~` | 21:25 |
| kanzure | nope, sorry | 21:26 |
| kanzure | let me look | 21:26 |
| kanzure | it seems to be /var/www/git-wiki2/.wiki/skdb/ | 21:26 |
| fenn | mm gotta love hidden directories | 21:27 |
| kanzure | it's mentioned in config.yml just in case you need to go digging into there | 21:27 |
| fenn | so if i cd /var/www/git-wiki2/.wiki/skdb/; git pull foo it should work? | 21:27 |
| fenn | or push | 21:27 |
| kanzure | uhm. it might pull from /home/bryan/code/skdb/ so the definition of "work" might vary. | 21:27 |
| kanzure | there are some minor changes that I made to that skdb repo in there | 21:28 |
| fenn | you can pull from other places easily | 21:28 |
| kanzure | I suggest you get rid of it entirely | 21:28 |
| fenn | hm | 21:28 |
| kanzure | there are some changes that we do not want to commit to the main repository line | 21:28 |
| kanzure | or that we do not want at all | 21:28 |
| fenn | if i want to point someone to a fairly recent skdb, what should i do? | 21:28 |
| fenn | and why isnt gitweb working? | 21:28 |
| kanzure | do you want to possibly compromise /var/www/skdb.git/ ? | 21:28 |
| fenn | compromise? | 21:28 |
| kanzure | well, there were some weird things going on with git-wiki before | 21:29 |
| kanzure | and it seemed to fuck things up | 21:29 |
| fenn | right | 21:29 |
| kanzure | bah, I'll do it. | 21:29 |
| * kanzure grumbles | 21:29 | |
| fenn | i dont really care if git-wiki is current, just that i know how to make it current if i feel like it | 21:29 |
| kanzure | oh, well, in this case, I'm going to rm -f -r .wiki/skdb | 21:29 |
| kanzure | and then git clone the bare repo | 21:29 |
| kanzure | and after this you can just pull | 21:30 |
| kanzure | at the moment you could pull but there would be changes that you have to merge and fix | 21:30 |
| fenn | heh " 0% of true Christians accept the theory of evolution." | 21:31 |
| kanzure | fenn: I would like your cat link again. | 21:31 |
| * kanzure recently realized he didn't have autologging set to on :( | 21:31 | |
| kanzure | are you reading that stupid slashdot thread? | 21:32 |
| fenn | cats in space http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUIokQ36rbA | 21:32 |
| fenn | no actually i was just curious about how stupid americans are vs the rest of the world | 21:33 |
| fenn | i read this article by stephen jay gould about his interaction with the vatican, where he made the vatican seem quite reasonable | 21:33 |
| fenn | basically they said 'we dont know nothing about this science stuff, so we leave it up to the scientists' | 21:33 |
| fenn | something about "magisteria" | 21:34 |
| kanzure | http://imgur.com/CQX4h.jpg | 21:38 |
| * fenn wonders how much photoshop went into that image | 21:39 | |
| kanzure | this much: |------------------| | 21:39 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/camera/IMG_4056_3.JPG | 21:41 |
| kanzure | random photo collection | 21:41 |
| fenn | qdig plz | 21:42 |
| fenn | http://qdig.sourceforge.net/ | 21:42 |
| kanzure | aha. | 21:43 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/camera/IMG_7709_2.JPG | 21:43 |
| fenn | did the cat come with a remote control or did you have to hack that in? | 21:44 |
| kanzure | how else did I make it do freshman year for me? | 21:45 |
| kanzure | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1xDy-aK75I wtf who is this guy | 22:03 |
| ybit | emacs org-mode is amazing | 22:12 |
| kanzure | how much of it have you eaten? | 22:13 |
| ybit | not enough :) | 22:16 |
| ybit | not much though, just familiarized with what can be done | 22:17 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/art/art2/reaper.jpg | 22:19 |
| ybit | everything that i've seen so far, i need. and i need to help you with autoscholar | 22:20 |
| kanzure | oh? | 22:21 |
| ybit | kanzure: yeah, working on my schedule right now so i can be a little more productive this week. both autoscholar and 'giant communication matrix' would be extremely helpful | 22:24 |
| ybit | i cut some hours at work so i could get around to helping you guys out with skdb | 22:25 |
| ybit | the cutting starts two weeks from now | 22:25 |
| ybit | just dropping about 8-10 hours/week | 22:25 |
| ybit | otherwise there's no way i'll be able to get around to all these projects | 22:26 |
| fenn | why is it the parkour guys never wear shirts? | 22:28 |
| ybit | heh :P | 22:29 |
| ybit | to show off the guns of course | 22:29 |
| ybit | why do they film themselves in the first place | 22:29 |
| ybit | i can do all that and more in second life | 22:29 |
| fenn | i can do all that and more with a giant exoskeleton | 22:29 |
| ybit | that was my next thought | 22:29 |
| kanzure | and where is that giant exoskeleton? | 22:30 |
| fenn | alaska, apparently | 22:30 |
| kanzure | no way in hell I'm flying you there | 22:30 |
| ybit | hmm, polar bears w/ exoskeletons, that would be scary | 22:30 |
| kanzure | CA is as far as you're getting from me | 22:30 |
| kanzure | ybit: anything more than 500 pounds with exoskeletons would be scary | 22:30 |
| ybit | :) | 22:30 |
| fenn | you mean bear wrasslin? | 22:31 |
| fenn | seen troy hurtubise's armor? | 22:31 |
| ybit | so it's adl.serveftp.org/skdb.git right? not git-wiki2/.wiki/skdb | 22:32 |
| kanzure | that's right | 22:32 |
| fenn | adl.serveftp.org/skdb.git is the correct url to clone from | 22:32 |
| kanzure | git-wiki2/.wiki/skdb is just some bullshit | 22:32 |
| kanzure | related to http://adl.serveftp.org:4567/ | 22:32 |
| ybit | only 2 years and 15k to design the suit, not bad | 22:33 |
| genehacker | what? | 22:34 |
| ybit | the helmets look reminiscent of storm troopers | 22:34 |
| genehacker | lazy susan? | 22:34 |
| ybit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPS2l5fQ55A | 22:34 |
| ybit | troy hurtubise's armor ^ | 22:34 |
| genehacker | troy is a crackpot | 22:35 |
| genehacker | 100% | 22:35 |
| fenn | "Sugars: they're not just drugs, they're drug delivery devices." | 22:36 |
| fenn | genehacker: fuck you | 22:36 |
| genehacker | no really | 22:37 |
| fenn | you come in here rambling about AB-matter and electron gas tubes, and yet troy is a crackpot? | 22:37 |
| genehacker | look up his angel light | 22:37 |
| fenn | even though there are videos of him getting shot point blank, run over by trucks, etc | 22:37 |
| fenn | i dont care about angel light | 22:37 |
| fenn | for all i know he really did discover angel light.. i mean it doesnt make any sense at all, why would anyone come up with such a crappy story? | 22:38 |
| kanzure | not sure what point I was trying to get across here: http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/art/fleas.PNG | 22:38 |
| genehacker | ah who cares | 22:39 |
| * fenn mumbles something about genetically engineered deodorant | 22:40 | |
| genehacker | no cooling | 22:40 |
| genehacker | fans but no cooling | 22:40 |
| ybit | i just don't see it protecting the body from ieds, there are holes at the hands and neck area. maybe i watched or read enough yet, but it is neat | 22:42 |
| genehacker | video of him getting run over by truck? | 22:42 |
| genehacker | it's plastic too | 22:42 |
| ybit | trojan S suit is the IED suit | 22:43 |
| genehacker | could lead to some scary plastic stuck to skin situations | 22:43 |
| * ybit wants to see the video of the IED exploding with the S suit | 22:43 | |
| genehacker | insurgents have learned how to make shaped charges | 22:44 |
| kanzure | woah a blast from the past | 22:44 |
| kanzure | I just remembered this old system I was working on called GATBIMOS | 22:44 |
| fenn | "Ursus Mark-VII eliminates the chain mail and is made from stainless steel, aluminum and cast titanium. It also features a built-in video screen, a cooling system, pressure-bearing titanium struts, protective airbags, shock absorbers, a robotic third arm, built-in regular arms and swivel shoulders. " | 22:44 |
| kanzure | it was this shared todo list system | 22:44 |
| kanzure | where you would be able to import other people's todo lists or something | 22:44 |
| kanzure | so that you wouldn't have to repeat shared work | 22:44 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/art/img329.jpg | 22:45 |
| * kanzure wonders when this was.. | 22:45 | |
| kanzure | seems to say 2006. | 22:45 |
| genehacker | helmet doesn't go underwater | 22:45 |
| genehacker | how long does the cooling last? | 22:45 |
| genehacker | is that your cat? | 22:46 |
| genehacker | wonder how that robotic 3rd arm works | 22:46 |
| ybit | http://www.inventortroy.com/ | 22:47 |
| genehacker | I need something like that except attached to a robot | 22:47 |
| fenn | ffs how can this not be on youtube | 22:48 |
| genehacker | UGH FLASH WEBSITE | 22:48 |
| ybit | the top has links to the s suit | 22:49 |
| ybit | with video | 22:49 |
| genehacker | this website sucks | 22:51 |
| genehacker | where's video of him getting shot and run over with truck? | 22:52 |
| ybit | i've heard 'fuck' more times in this vid more than i did in the blair witch project | 22:52 |
| fenn | i'm looking for it | 22:52 |
| kanzure | i have no idea what you guys are on about | 22:53 |
| genehacker | this guy could sell slap chops | 22:54 |
| fenn | eh i guess the videos were at http://projecttroy.com.nexx.com/website/videos.htm | 22:54 |
| fenn | but that site is lon gone | 22:54 |
| genehacker | I seriously doubt the whole truck thing | 22:54 |
| genehacker | troy is also the same guy who claims to have invented a fire resistant compound made from diet coke | 22:55 |
| genehacker | is that your cat kanzure? | 22:56 |
| fenn | and also claims to have made his own bear mace from chili peppers | 22:58 |
| genehacker | ok let's forget that | 22:58 |
| genehacker | the suit can't fly | 22:58 |
| genehacker | sauce on robot arm thing though | 22:58 |
| genehacker | kanzure so how would your chromotography lazy susan work? | 22:59 |
| ybit | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/art/img329.jpg is a photograph of your notes, kanzure? | 23:02 |
| kanzure | genehacker: chromatograph drips drops of water. lazy susan rotates and changes test tubes. | 23:02 |
| kanzure | ybit: yeah, it's really really old | 23:02 |
| genehacker | oh | 23:03 |
| kanzure | I have many thousands of sheets of papers squirreled away of hand written notes from what seemed like eons trapped in high school | 23:03 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/art/ | 23:03 |
| kanzure | ok, installed qdig | 23:03 |
| genehacker | for liquid chromatography I see | 23:03 |
| genehacker | makes sense | 23:03 |
| genehacker | kanzure got a link for you | 23:04 |
| kanzure | the first liquid chromatography setup was just chalk and some chlorophyll | 23:04 |
| genehacker | it's in google's catch | 23:04 |
| kanzure | cache | 23:04 |
| genehacker | yeah I realized that | 23:04 |
| genehacker | http://tinyurl.com/nzpzhc | 23:06 |
| genehacker | it could be useful | 23:06 |
| kanzure | this sucks | 23:06 |
| kanzure | it doesn't even generate thumbnails | 23:06 |
| ybit | so ~ 6 megapixel camera suffices for taking photos of notes, neat | 23:06 |
| genehacker | what doesn't? | 23:07 |
| alx1 | kanzure, we started the workshops but have not talked about repos yet | 23:07 |
| alx1 | kanzure, can you tell me about your project? Is there a page about it? | 23:07 |
| kanzure | ybit: it was a scanner | 23:08 |
| ybit | ah | 23:08 |
| fenn | i guess i should set up the skdb info page somewhere else | 23:18 |
| kanzure | aha. behold! http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/art/ | 23:19 |
| kanzure | hehe: http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/art/?Qwd=./supers&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M | 23:21 |
| fenn | http://heybryan.org/camera/ is busted | 23:31 |
| kanzure | it loads images for me. . | 23:32 |
| drazak | fenn: works for me | 23:33 |
| kanzure | heh http://heybryan.org/camera/?Qwd=.&Qif=IMG_3598.JPG&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M | 23:35 |
| fenn | this is what i have | 23:48 |
| fenn | allow-hotplug eth0 | 23:48 |
| fenn | auto eth0 | 23:48 |
| fenn | iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.86 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 | 23:48 |
| fenn | on separate lines | 23:48 |
| drazak | fenn: how do you figure out the path a certain command is using | 23:49 |
| fenn | which? | 23:50 |
| fenn | or do you mean the environment it's running, like $PWD | 23:50 |
| drazak | there's a command you can put infront of another command | 23:50 |
| drazak | to tell you where teh binary is located | 23:50 |
| drazak | and I'm having a major brain fart | 23:50 |
| fenn | that's `which` | 23:50 |
| drazak | thanks | 23:51 |
| fenn | also ps -ef shows the command line used to call stuff | 23:51 |
| drazak | yeah | 23:52 |
| genehacker | kanzure do you mind saving that link I sent you | 23:55 |
| genehacker | it will be useful | 23:55 |
| kanzure | which link | 23:56 |
| kanzure | ohgod http://192.168.1.110/camera/?Qwd=./internet&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M | 23:57 |
| kanzure | http://192.168.1.110/camera/?Qwd=./internet&Qif=frominternet.jpg&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M | 23:58 |
| drazak | thanks for making them unclickables | 23:58 |
| kanzure | http://192.168.1.110/camera/?Qwd=./internet&Qif=instructions.jpg&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M | 23:59 |
| kanzure | drazak: you can guess the correct url | 23:59 |
| drazak | :P | 23:59 |
| kanzure | but it will not be worth your time | 23:59 |
| fenn | they load just as slow for me | 23:59 |
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